Please help me
I want to copy from the Amharic Bible in the web:http://www.biblica.com/uploads/pdf-files/bibles/amharic/ot/nehemiah.pdf ,but what I get is not the alphabets ,instead I get the following: "bNg#\# bxR-@KSS zmn mNG |T b¦Ã¾W ›mT n!úN tBlÖ b¸-‰W wR ywYN -J bmÈlT g!z@½ ywYN -°N xN|c& lNg#\# " Is there a way to help me,so as to be able to paste .
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Hi Tes, where are you trying to paste the text from the Amharic Bible into? Logos Notes? The Logos forums? A Word document? The answer will be different depending on your paste destination. The basic problem in most cases would be that if it isn't working you don't have an Amharic font that is accessible to the particular softwaree you are pasting into. For Windows software such as Word, that gives you access to all the fonts installed on your system, you can remedy that by installing the Amharic font. And it has to be the same Amharic font that is used in the source document, which might not be very easy to ascertain for a PDF file such as that Nehemiah text. If you have a version of Adobe Acrobat that can show you the embedded fonts you can look inside. This document appears to use EthioSoft (a TrueType font). I've googled it and apparently that font was at one time available from http://www.ethiosoft.com/font/setup.exe, but the domain name ethiosoft.com is now up for sale, so the company that made the font must have gone out of business. I think you might be out of luck unless you can find a free download of it somewhere.
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I want to copy from the Amharic Bible in the web:http://www.biblica.com/uploads/pdf-files/bibles/amharic/ot/nehemiah.pdf ,but what I get is not the alphabets ,instead I get the following: "bNg#\# bxR-@KSS zmn mNG |T b¦Ã¾W ›mT n!úN tBlÖ b¸-‰W wR ywYN -J bmÈlT g!z@½ ywYN -°N xN|c& lNg#\# " Is there a way to help me,so as to be able to paste .
I also don't get anything other than gibberish. My guess is that it's a font problem. Perhaps your source doesn't use a unicode compatible font but one of the old legacy fonts.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Hi Tes, where are you trying to paste the text from the Amharic Bible into? Logos Notes? The Logos forums? A Word document? The answer will be different depending on your paste destination. The basic problem in most cases would be that if it isn't working you don't have an Amharic font that is accessible to the particular softwaree you are pasting into. For Windows software such as Word, that gives you access to all the fonts installed on your system, you can remedy that by installing the Amharic font. And it has to be the same Amharic font that is used in the source document, which might not be very easy to ascertain for a PDF file such as that Nehemiah text. If you have a version of Adobe Acrobat that can show you the embedded fonts you can look inside. This document appears to use EthioSoft (a TrueType font). I've googled it and apparently that font was at one time available from http://www.ethiosoft.com/font/setup.exe, but the domain name ethiosoft.com is now up for sale, so the company that made the font must have gone out of business. I think you might be out of luck unless you can find a free download of it somewhere.
Hi Rosie, Well I am trying to copy it to word document,there are two Amharic bible versions in the web ,this one is translated from the Niv and the other http://bible.org/foreign/amharic/ is old version ,which is translated from the king James version.With this one there is no problem to copy it ,but since the language is old it is not easy to understand it ,so I use the Niv ,.but always I have to type it ,it is much work,If it would be good ,if there could be any solution ,even if I could buy ,but it is hard to find the owner of this translation,I tried to contact the Biblica,but I was told from one of their sraff ,that they didn't know.
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The Amharic fonts is integrated in Vista and window 7, the name of the fonts is "Nyala", I use this ,
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The Amharic fonts is integrated in Vista and window 7, the name of the fonts is "Nyala", I use this ,
A solution which would be a major pain would be to copy it into your notes. Shibboleth (the free Logos program) has an Ethiopic keyboard so that you could copy it and then paste it into your notes.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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The Amharic fonts is integrated in Vista and window 7, the name of the fonts is "Nyala", I use this ,
A solution which would be a major pain would be to copy it into your notes. Shibboleth (the free Logos program) has an Ethiopic keyboard so that you could copy it and then paste it into your notes.
have you tried it? I would be good it you could show me what you have copied.
Blessings in Christ.
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The Amharic fonts is integrated in Vista and window 7, the name of the fonts is "Nyala", I use this ,
A solution which would be a major pain would be to copy it into your notes. Shibboleth (the free Logos program) has an Ethiopic keyboard so that you could copy it and then paste it into your notes.
have you tried it? I would be good it you could show me what you have copied.
I'm a rank beginner when it comes to Ethiopic. I'm attaching a small sample which may not even be correct for your consideration.7651.Amharic.doc
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Rosie is right - you need the font. But you should be able to extract the font using a website like this one: http://onlinefontconverter.com/extract_font_from_pdf.php
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The Amharic fonts is integrated in Vista and window 7, the name of the fonts is "Nyala", I use this ,
Even if you have an Amharic font, if the encoding in the EthioSoft font that was used for the PDF file is different from the encoding in the Nyala font, then even if you format it in Nyala, it probably won't look right. For example, suppose Nyala maps the English letter s to Amharic
(in other words, if you typed an 's' in Word and formatted it as Nyala it would look like that corresponding Amharic letter). But suppose the EthioSoft font uses some other character normally unused in the English language, such as Ã, to map to so that it can allow English words to be written in the font as well. Then if you tried to copy that text from a document that used EthioSoft font and paste into word, it would still come out as nonsense characters.So I'm afraid the only solution is to get hold of the font that was used to create that PDF file. Here is a whole page of info on extracting fonts from PDF files. It does not look easy, even for someone like me: http://cg.scs.carleton.ca/~luc/pdfextract.html
Rosie is right - you need the font. But you should be able to extract the font using a website like this one: http://onlinefontconverter.com/extract_font_from_pdf.php
I tried that with this nehemiah.pdf file and it didn't work.
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George,how could you manage it? you have typed here in Amharic.<span
class="EthiopicText" xml:lang="gez">የሐጎልድ ል᎐ⶎ የ</span>Blessings in Christ.
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Sorry, I mean you have copied or converted it in Amharic.
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I was able to correctly view most of the document after installing several of the fonts listed in the pdf, I viewed the pdf in notepad to see what was going on behind the scenes. It lists EthioSoft, VG2Agazian, VG2Title, VG2Main, TimesNewRoman. The attached file has the VG2 Fonts... I am unable to locate EthioSoft, will keep trying though.
Gary
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Hi , welcome to the Forums Gary,so do you see any possibility?
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George,how could you manage it? you have typed here in Amharic.<span class="EthiopicText" xml:lang="gez">የሐጎልድ ል᎐ⶎ የ</span>
You can do it by using the Shibboleth program available free from Logos. You can get it here
http://www.logos.com/shibboleth
I'll warn you, however, that it isn't very quick and easy to use since it doesn't appear to have an Amharic keyboard to you need to click on the glyphs.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Another option might be to use the snipping tool, paste text as a picture into word.
type snip into the run sector
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I think with some work you should be able to copy/paste the majority of the text. In my previous post I attached the fonts required to get the majority of the text to paste correctly... still unable to locate EthioSoft. In the image below I show a side-by-side of the nehemiah.pdf (left side) and what pasted into OpenOffice Writer (right side). I highlighted in yellow the differences. The first bad paste was the "µ", created with the alt+0181 code and the second was the à created with the alt+0195 code. If you hold down the alt key and type the number when you let go of the alt key the special character is created. If you use the find/replace feature in your Office program you can quickly change the bad paste areas. In the find box put a copy of the bad character and in the replace box use the alt code to place the correct character. Then hit find, verify it is a bad area and then hit replace.
If you want me to help find the bad areas let me know, I can't read the language but I can spot differences.
Gary
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I think with some work you should be able to copy/paste the majority of the text. In my previous post I attached the fonts required to get the majority of the text to paste correctly... still unable to locate EthioSoft. In the image below I show a side-by-side of the nehemiah.pdf (left side) and what pasted into OpenOffice Writer (right side). I highlighted in yellow the differences. The first bad paste was the "µ", created with the alt+0181 code and the second was the à created with the alt+0195 code. If you hold down the alt key and type the number when you let go of the alt key the special character is created. If you use the find/replace feature in your Office program you can quickly change the bad paste areas. In the find box put a copy of the bad character and in the replace box use the alt code to place the correct character. Then hit find, verify it is a bad area and then hit replace.
If you want me to help find the bad areas let me know, I can't read the language but I can spot differences.
Gary
It is amazing gary how you could do it.It is very complicated to me to understand it I need you to teach me the A B C of the process.I use this Amharic version for my bible study preparations,my problem is, after I have used the English version, I have to come to this one, and it is a lot of work to type each alphabet,Is there any way you could help me my email is:gtesfai AT web DOT de
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I am not sure Tes what is the problem. I see the pdf file correct. I have Windows 7 and MS Office 2010 installed. No extra special fonts installed.
Bohuslav
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Here is your pdf file exported as a XPS file:
I hope it will work. I had to zip this file.
Bohuslav
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I am not sure Tes what is the problem. I see the pdf file correct. I have Windows 7 and MS Office 2010 installed. No extra special fonts installed.
It is no problem for Tes or anyone else to see the PDF file correctly, because the needed fonts are embedded into the file. But he wants to be able to copy text out of the PDF file and paste into Word, where the proper fonts are not available. Hence the difficulty. Hopefully Gary can help him out.
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I am not sure Tes what is the problem. I see the pdf file correct. I have Windows 7 and MS Office 2010 installed. No extra special fonts installed.
It is no problem for Tes or anyone else to see the PDF file correctly, because the needed fonts are embedded into the file. But he wants to be able to copy text out of the PDF file and paste into Word, where the proper fonts are not available. Hence the difficulty. Hopefully Gary can help him out.
You are absolutely right Rosie, I was thinking about you if you have understood it how Gary has done it, I could easily understand the way ,you explain it by the screenshot.
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I was thinking about you if you have understood it how Gary has done it, I could easily understand the way ,you explain it by the screenshot.
Gary found the fonts for you. In his post (http://community.logos.com/forums/p/27083/200173.aspx#200173) he attached a .zip file. Download that zip file. (Right click on it and Save As... on your hard disk.) Then unzip it (double-click on it and click "Extract all files").
Now select all four font files that were extracted, right-click, and click Install:
Now select text from the nehemiah.pdf file, copy and paste into Word. At first it will look like garbage characters, depending on what your default font is (this is copied from Nehemiah 1:1-2 from the Amharic):
Now select all that text.
Next format it using one of the VG2 fonts (which are Amharic; you won't be able to read the font names, but you will see them obviously in the Font dropdown list in Word, and they come alphabetically where VG2... would appear):
Now it looks like this (I used the middle Amharic font):
Now once it's readable to you, you can edit it however you like.
I hope that works!
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Thank you Rosie I am struggling.
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I have got this,it is different than yours Rosie.
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I could not find install,what I have got is Open, cut,copy and property.
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I have got this,it is different than yours Rosie.
You're almost there! You missed one small step that I presumed you knew how to do (sorry about that):
Now select all four font files that were extracted, right-click, and click Install:
To "select all four font files," click on the first one, then hold the Shift key down and click on the last one, and all four will be selected. Then right click anywhere in the blue highlighted area and the menu will pop up. Click "Install" (Windows will install the fonts; you might have to click OK on a dialog box; I can't remember).
Then continue with the rest of my instructions.
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I have been trying ,when I click the first one ,then i hold the shift key down ,but all I get is just as I have showed it below.
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I have been trying ,when I click the first one ,then i hold the shift key down ,but all I get is just as I have showed it below.
Oh, it looks like you are trying to do it inside the zip file, rather than in the folder where the font files got extracted to. I hadn't noticed this clue before in your screen shot:
Did you click "Alle Dateien extrahieren"? If you did that, you should have seen a dialog box like this:
(Of course it will be in German and will have your user name instead of mine.) If you got that, take note of the folder where the fonts will be extracted to (you can choose to enter a different folder if you want), then click Extract. Then go in Windows Explorer to that folder where the fonts were extracted to. Then you should be able to install the fonts as I've described.
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Hello,
Maybe the instructions from the Microsoft website will assist you: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/TrueTypeInstall.mspx
I do graphic design/illustration so I have a different way to install fonts, a program that came with my design software. I've been on the road for the past several hours so I have been unable to respond sooner. I discovered that if you first paste the text into Notepad then copy/paste into Word or Open Office some of the errors go away, apparently straight paste strips away some of the formatting. Weird. I attached a Word Doc file showing the first two pages converted and the "µ" letter replaced with the correct one. I use OpenOffice (A freeware alternative to the Microsoft Office Suite) then saved to a .doc format so let me know if it looks strange. I discovered that the EthioSoft font is only used in the middle column and for only one character... looks like a division symbol in math (÷), in my file it looks like a empty rectangle. If my file looks correct I will keep working on the rest of the file and then start in on the other books of the Bible. I will be away from my computer most of Saturday.
Gary
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I am not sure Tes what is the problem. I see the pdf file correct. I have Windows 7 and MS Office 2010 installed. No extra special fonts installed.
It is no problem for Tes or anyone else to see the PDF file correctly, because the needed fonts are embedded into the file. But he wants to be able to copy text out of the PDF file and paste into Word, where the proper fonts are not available. Hence the difficulty. Hopefully Gary can help him out.
Yes, I see. Sorry for not noticing what is the problem. Through the print driver I was able to convert the file to XPS format however. That is not the solution either, since to get it from the XPS to doc is also difficult. The proper fonts are a solution. Good luck Tes. It is one more reason we need to have Amharic Bible in Logos.
God bless you.
Bohuslav
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