Christmas Sale Stress
Just wondering if I'm the only weak one in the flesh.....
Are you stressed out over the huge Christmas sale?
- Have you looked over the list of books on sale, not once, but 2-3 times, plotting what to buy?
- Weighing the options of spending your year's allowance now, or allowing room for later pre-pubs?
- Thinking about your choices throughout your waking hours?
- Figuring out how your come up with more money?
- Agonizing over what books will get left behind?
- Fearful that you'll have regret "buying the wrong books" immediately afterwards?
If so, you've been infected with Logos Sale Influenza!
Comments
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I wouldn't call it stress, but today's offering (NICOT/NICNT) has been on my mind all day. I will probably get it, but I will give myself the rest of the day to make a final decision.
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I've been cured! I am going to scour my life for the cash to buy the 2010 Master Collection...
I had spent days parsing the Master Collection list, trying to bring some order to that unwieldy list so I could make a decision about which individual 50% books to buy. In the process, I discovered all the interesting books tucked away in the biblical studies collections. My distress increased and my total spend increased. Then Matthew Jones pointed the way to recovery: the logic of one dollar. "Bob" showed up and we had the following conversation:
"Bob": Would you buy a collection of 2000 books at $1 a book if every single book was extremely valuable to you?
Me: Yes but... there is a lot in the Master Collection that I don't need and just don't want! I have Portfolio, plus some add-ons. About half are duplicates!
"Bob": Okay. Would you buy a collection of 1000 valuable books at $2 a book?
Me: I suppose so, but they would have to be really valuable! Maybe 70 percent of what remains is junk!
"Bob": (sotto voce: One person's junk is ...). Well yes, but suppose you were offered a collection of just 300 valuable books at $6.33 a book? Would you take that? Most of the books in Community Pricing go for more than that!At that point, I got it: $1 trumps 50% off any day.
Rebecca
ps: I found partial to complete representation in the Master Collection from all of the following collections, and these were just the ones I was most interested in (sale price in parentheses is typically the usual price but is less than the individual book prices discounted 50%):
- Second Temple Period Collection ($800)
- Judaism & Christianity Collection ($400)
- Studies of Jesus and the Gospels ($350)
- Library of NT Studies: Jesus and the Gospels ($600)
- Studies New Testament World (SNTW) ($135)
- Origins of Ancient Israel Collection ($170)
- Old Testament Studies Series Collection ($190)
- Theology & Doctrine Collection ($210)
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I wish there was an easy way to see how many books are not in my Collection. I have a lot of books, plus Portfolio, so my fear is that there are 200 books that are new to me and 125 I won't want. 75 books at $2000 is rather steep. I have tried looking through the list but there are just too many and it's too tedious comparing to my library.
It would be nice if you could get a 1 hour license to it, see which titles are new (I have everything rated 3 stars or up in my library so I could see them through a search of rating = 0), and then lose the license unless you buy it. That would make the buying decision much more clear!
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Dominick Sela said:
I wish there was an easy way to see how many books are not in my Collection.
Well, you can filter out most of what you don't own by setting unlocked to no:
http://www.logos.com/products/search?Specials=Featured&unlocked=no
But some of the books I own are still in what's left. I also like to filter by publisher, since there are certain ones I favor and others I tend to avoid.
I went through and added up all the ones I wanted, and it came to around $2100, so I either have to pare down or go for the big one.
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The books I own were greyed out. I bought about 41 books at an average price of $10. These were all books I really wanted. I weeded out he commentaries, deciding I really have enough. Then was ambushed by NICOT/NT today, and decided to splurge. I shall probably opt out of the EEC now. I wasn't even able to check my bank balance, but I think I have enough. For the first time I've opted for a payment plan. I hope this commentary may answer the questions no other commentary has yet answered for me. Now waiting longingly for it to download, which it seems in no hurry to do!
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NICOT/NICNT just reeled me in...
(Thanks Logos for this Christmas special)
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15" rMBP 2.6 GHz i7 | 16 GB RAM | 1.0 TB Flash Drive | OS X 10.12.3 | Logos 7.0 (7.3.0.0062)
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Having had to suddenly sit out all my pre-pubs and the Christmas Specials (due to coming economic risk), but expectant that a brighter future awaits at mid-year, I am hoping that these sales are just the precursor of things to come.
I agonized over the 2010 Master [not to mention the Piper collection], coming to the same conclusion as Rebecca...just not the final result. Similar to Dominick, I am blessed with a large library & that makes the comparison tough--if I had time I'd try to learn how Mark Barnes built his bookshelf program and tweak it into a Logos deal comparison tool.
I'm coming close to needing a 12 step program regarding book purchases in general, so perhaps the 12 Days program was God's 12 step program for me...I've learned that I've got room for improvement in this area. Fortunately, I can content myself with the many great resources I do own--I'm having a blast reading through the Messianic Bible Study Collection (which according to my reading plan I'll be doing until something like 2016[:|])
BRK BRK
For those wrestling with NICxT, I've really liked it. It has become the first commentary I look at (I teach at Sunday School-level) and if I have time, I consult WBC (but it is MUCH more in depth). I'll also usually sync a window of ESV Study Bible notes alongside NICxT. Yes it is expensive, but knowing what I do now, I'd buy it again. Of course, this coming from a guy who would rather buy a book than go out to eat/see a movie... [;)]
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Having a large library helps me in my studies, homily preparation, etc. A tip that Rosie posted but I have long felt was appropriate, is I fully intend to pass my library on to some deserving seminarian, pastor, or clergy one day so it will continue to get use. That makes me almost feel like there is a part of my personal investment that's a future charity.
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LOL...I may just call Logos and tell them to unlock the John G. Butler Analytical Bible Expositor volumes I returned a few months ago since the shopping cart says I already own them (the add to cart option is grayed out). If all of the ABE volumes were at 50% off I would definitely repurchase them again. Oh well, some day I'll get them again.
One suggestion friends at Logos: Please make the whole NT set available as a bundle and cheaper besides having them separate. Thanks for all the sales this season!
Happy Holidays to all!
Douglas
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I don't have any stress over it...I can't afford it...I realize that... = no stress [:D]
Robert Pavich
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Robert Pavich said:
I don't have any stress over it...I can't afford it...I realize that... = no stress
With ya, brother. Ahh...the joy of being poor!
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Philip Spitzer said:
With ya, brother. Ahh...the joy of being poor!
I have a secular friend who's motto is:
"Possessions are prison...."
Interesting eh?
Robert Pavich
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Robert Pavich said:Philip Spitzer said:
With ya, brother. Ahh...the joy of being poor!
I have a secular friend who's motto is:
"Possessions are prison...."
Interesting eh?
there's a lot of truth to that. And to it I'll add if you want to die loved, die poor.
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Philip Spitzer said:
there's a lot of truth to that. And to it I'll add if you want to die loved, die poor.
Oh...I'm gonna be loved for sure!
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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I've not stressed over the Christmas sale. When I examine how I really use books in Logos, especially for Bible study/preparation, I didn't find much in the Christmas sale that I really wanted that I did not already have. Besides, two pre-pub commentary sets (Mentor OT and Focus on the Bible) are scheduled for release in January, so I need to be prepared for them.
What I have been wanting since I've had Logos (about 2 1/2 years) is the MacArthur NT Commentaries. I cannot seem to get caught up on pre-pubs to order MacArthur. Another Bible software company has a very tempting sale on them, very tempting indeed, but I want them integrated in Logos.
But stress? No. Logos already offers more great books than I can afford. I just try to choose the ones I need most and can afford.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Dominick Sela said:
Having a large library helps me in my studies, homily preparation, etc. A tip that Rosie posted but I have long felt was appropriate, is I fully intend to pass my library on to some deserving seminarian, pastor, or clergy one day so it will continue to get use. That makes me almost feel like there is a part of my personal investment that's a future charity.
[Y]
But, I hope to enjoy it a lot for few years myself first. [:)]
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Rebecca RG said:
I've been cured! I am going to scour my life for the cash to buy the 2010 Master Collection...
I had spent days parsing the Master Collection list, trying to bring some order to that unwieldy list so I could make a decision about which individual 50% books to buy. In the process, I discovered all the interesting books tucked away in the biblical studies collections. My distress increased and my total spend increased. Then Matthew Jones pointed the way to recovery: the logic of one dollar. "Bob" showed up and we had the following conversation:
"Bob": Would you buy a collection of 2000 books at $1 a book if every single book was extremely valuable to you?
Me: Yes but... there is a lot in the Master Collection that I don't need and just don't want! I have Portfolio, plus some add-ons. About half are duplicates!
"Bob": Okay. Would you buy a collection of 1000 valuable books at $2 a book?
Me: I suppose so, but they would have to be really valuable! Maybe 70 percent of what remains is junk!
"Bob": (sotto voce: One person's junk is ...). Well yes, but suppose you were offered a collection of just 300 valuable books at $6.33 a book? Would you take that? Most of the books in Community Pricing go for more than that!At that point, I got it: $1 trumps 50% off any day.
Rebecca
ps: I found partial to complete representation in the Master Collection from all of the following collections, and these were just the ones I was most interested in (sale price in parentheses is typically the usual price but is less than the individual book prices discounted 50%):
- Second Temple Period Collection ($800)
- Judaism & Christianity Collection ($400)
- Studies of Jesus and the Gospels ($350)
- Library of NT Studies: Jesus and the Gospels ($600)
- Studies New Testament World (SNTW) ($135)
- Origins of Ancient Israel Collection ($170)
- Old Testament Studies Series Collection ($190)
- Theology & Doctrine Collection ($210)
Yes, I came to the same conclusion and have posted more information at http://community.logos.com/forums/t/27683.aspx
Hopefully it will help others sort things out.
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