Is this computer an over kill?
Is this Laptop an over kill for Logos 4?I says it is designed for gaming. I have no interest what so ever in gaming. Just would like something that will do me a good job with Logos and the other few things I do on the internet. Also what about ASUS is it really quality?
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It will certainly do the job. I don't like using the term over kill with laptops. Can you get a find job with LOGOS done with a lower laptop? Yes. But if you want to avoid getting a laptop in 3-4 years get the best laptop you can afford today. As for ASUS, I never owned one so couldn't speak as far a quality.
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Sam West said:
Is this Laptop an over kill for Logos 4?I says it is designed for gaming. I have no interest what so ever in gaming. Just would like something that will do me a good job with Logos and the other few things I do on the internet. Also what about ASUS is it really quality?
Sam,
For those of us of geek heritage, there is no such thing as "overkill"! [:)]
As for Asus, it is a great company, best known for motherboards, but it is an increasing presence in laptops and monitors. I don't know about the specific model you're looking at, but as a brand Asus is highly regarded.
Bill
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That's a great gaming machine, and Logos 4 will run well. It will use the multi-threaded processor (8 threads), the graphics (for WPF), and the quick drive (for retrieving resources.)
But, you can expect ASUS to upgrade this machine soon. The Sandy Bridge chips are due out January 5. I'm prepared to bet ASUS will respond quickly, and the new machine will be significantly faster. If you want to spend that kind of money, it would be worth waiting.
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I have an ASUS netbook that is now in the repair shop for the 4th time. I'd like to think my machine is an outlier, but who knows? Their tech support/customer service is definitely not something to write home about positively. I've heard good things about Toshiba laptops.
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Mike (or Michael)-
My Toshiba laptop is going on 3 years old this coming spring.
No problems, no repairs. The only thing is that Windows 7 works fine, but with all the updates and reboots, sometimes the laptop gets hung.
Runs Logos4 fine. No problems, no hangups. As a matter of fact, I find the match to be a great one.
I often open Powerpoint and copy something from Logos4 or else copy it to MSWord. No freezes; no hangups.
Mine is the A205 dual core.
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I have a good friend who's forgotten more about the personal computer arena than I'll ever know (and I've been a software developer in the field for 20+ years). He has written for Tom's Hardware in the past and has numerous contacts within the industry.
When I asked him about getting an Asus laptop, his reply was that while they make good hardware, their retail products don't get nearly the testing or compatibility preparation that PCs / laptops from companies like Dell, IBM, HP, etc. do. Those companies may not make the hardware themselves, but before they'll sell it, they spend a lot of time and money prepping the hardware for reliability, drivers, support, etc. He wasn't knocking Asus (he and I both use Asus motherboards exclusively when we build PCs) - other OEMs that are starting to sell directly in the retail channel would be in the same situation.
In my house right now, I've got:
- Dell PowerEdge server (3 yrs old)
- Dell Inspiron 9100 laptop (5-1/2 yrs old)
- Dell Precision M6300 laptop (3 yrs old)
- Dell Inspiron 1521 laptop (3 yrs old)
- Dell PC (don't recall the model off-hand - 1-1/2 yrs old)
- Dell XPS 16 laptop (1-1/2 yrs old)
- Dell Precision M4500 laptop (my employer's - 6 mos old)(I've got some other PCs and a Macbook Pro, too; but these are the Dells). The only problem I've had with any of them is the battery on the 1521 dying prematurely (even though it was rarely used). My youngest son will be going to college in August, and he'll get some type of Dell laptop (he wants one from their Alienware line, but it will probably be an XPS or Precision).
I have no relationship or religious affinity to Dell. They've just worked for me (and this list doesn't include the other Dells I've used at work over the years).
My $.02 ...
Donnie
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Sam West said:
Is this Laptop an over kill for Logos 4?I says it is designed for gaming. I have no interest what so ever in gaming. Just would like something that will do me a good job with Logos and the other few things I do on the internet. Also what about ASUS is it really quality?
As far as screen size and keyboard size, it's UNDERkill. I recommend a 17" to get a full keyboard and more display. As for the other factors, nothing is overkill when it comes to a faster computer -- unless you're talking about overkilling your checking account.
george
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If I were going with a computer right now I would try to find a cheap six core processor instead of the quad. Anything that is 2.6 ghz and above should be a good speed. 6 gb of memory is good, and the hard drive is ok. It's not overkill, technology changes fast by the better one now so you don't have to buy another one in a few years...
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Yes ... it is overkill. My advice would be to box it back up as soon as possible and mail it to me. [;)]
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Sam West said:
Is this Laptop an over kill for Logos 4?I says it is designed for gaming.
Depends on what want to do - slower computers also usable - just takes longer. Both Logos 4 and games are resource intensive. Tom's Hardware Guide uses several games to benchmark computer capabilities.
Looking at mobile graphics benchmarks http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html noted graphics card currently # 2.
Processor benchmarks http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html currently # 25 (anticipate ranking drop next year after Intel plans ships newer Sandy Bridge processors)
Observation: 10,000 rpm laptop disk drives now available. Also, solid state drives (SSD) are an option.
Sam West said:Also what about ASUS is it really quality?
Personally have no experience with ASUS, did find a review comparing many brands => http://smidgenpc.com/2010/04/23/the-best-laptop-brands-a-comprehensive-review/ (concur with review that Apple is among the best laptop brands - good experiences with Mac Genius's in Apple Store)
Keep Smiling [:)]
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i have owned 2 Asus products and both worked great, I currently have a little 13 inch model that is doing a great job running Logos 4 guickly and I have over 2500 resources in the program. It runs the program very quickly with hardly any delays on any thing that the larger laptops don't also have delays on. It has much less than this computer has on it!
I teach other believers how to use software and have a lot of time on computers and yours should be very enjoyable and it has way more power than it needs to run Logos.
Asus are my brand of choice right now and I heard right now they are number 1 in customer satisfaction as of this month.
In Christ,
Jim VanSchoonhoven
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George Somsel said:
I recommend a 17" to get a full keyboard and more display.
I agree with George. When I got my laptop, which I use mostly for Logos, I wanted one with at least a 17" screen to get as much on the screen as possible for the Logos desktop. 17" doesn't compare to my 22" dual monitors on my PC, but the 17" is sufficient - I don't think I would be very happy with 15" or less.
"It seems our problems solve themselves when we look beyond us to those truly in hell." - Beyond Our Suffering - AILD
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"Is this computer an over kill?"
I don't understand the question. There is no such thing.
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Chris Roberts said:
"Is this computer an over kill?"
I don't understand the question. There is no such thing.
I believe that he is simply asking if that particular laptop is more than he really needs to run Logos. My answer would be "Yes", it is overkill, but as I stated earlier, I prefer the overkill because of my personal preferences. (I bought more than I needed when I got my laptop...) You can run L4 on much less, but the increase in CPU power, RAM and HD space could increase it's performance and the larger display would be more satisfying to the eyes. Just my opinion.
"It seems our problems solve themselves when we look beyond us to those truly in hell." - Beyond Our Suffering - AILD
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Today's overkill is tomorrow's dinosaur. [:D]
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I just purchased an ASUS G73JW about a month ago and so far so good. It needed a few tweaks which Logos forum users helped me with and it is great now for what I do with Logos. The amazing thing is that it runs so cool and so quietly. My last laptop (a Toshiba) ran so hot you could fry an egg on it. I literally had burn marks on the edge of my palm after using it for hours and hours one day. The 17" monitor is worth it with Logos. More screen - more to see at once. Also, when I figure out how to switch Windows 7 licence to a new HD, I am going to take Abi's advice (from another thread) and install a SSD. 120GB for about 229.00. ASUS also has a feature I have not seen (maybe other companies use it but it is new to me) - an ASUS app that updates drivers, etc every few days. It is SLOW, but it runs quietly in the background and does the job.
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Ron Corbett said:
Also, when I figure out how to switch Windows 7 licence to a new HD,
Hi, Ron;
The windows license is stored in the bios. You can switch drives at your leisure ... as long as you have the windows 7 disc. You only have to worry about losing license info when doing something drastic, like swapping a motherboard. Some SSDs include clone software,The SSD becomes an exact copy of your current drive. Should the SSD ever fail, you could just re-install the HD. This is much faster if/when it works. Some clone software is buggy, and you have to have an external drive enclosure for the process. ( unless you are lucky enough to have 2 drive bays in your laptop.)
God Bless [:)]
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