Indexing-the Good, the Bad (maybe)

Juanita
Juanita Member Posts: 1,339
edited November 20 in English Forum

I noticed really fast indexing with beta 8 and the tooltip telling me how long before it was finished-the good.   But, what I didn't see this time was the indication of how many resources were being indexed-the bad.  So, then I wonder if all 1100 + of my resources were really indexed in 45 minutes.  I'm skeptical.   How did I go from 4 hours to 45 minutes?  It is almost too good to be true.  I don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, but this is beta testing and I'm going to ask probably the dumbest question at times, to get clarification.  Big Smile

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  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998

    I noticed really fast indexing with beta 8 and the tooltip telling me how long before it was finished-the good.   But, what I didn't see this time was the indication of how many resources were being indexed-the bad.  So, then I wonder if all 1100 + of my resources were really indexed in 45 minutes.  I'm skeptical.   How did I go from 4 hours to 45 minutes?  It is almost too good to be true.  I don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, but this is beta testing and I'm going to ask probably the dumbest question at times, to get clarification.  Big Smile

    I think B7 introduced this. Your old index was maintained. A new "temporary" index was created that only included your new resources. If you do a basic search, there are now two sections "New Resources" and "Library Results". Under "New Resources" you will see a link to merge the new resources index and the Old resources index into a new old resources index :-) This is where eternity comes into view.

  • Juanita
    Juanita Member Posts: 1,339

    I noticed really fast indexing with beta 8 and the tooltip telling me how long before it was finished-the good.   But, what I didn't see this time was the indication of how many resources were being indexed-the bad.  So, then I wonder if all 1100 + of my resources were really indexed in 45 minutes.  I'm skeptical.   How did I go from 4 hours to 45 minutes?  It is almost too good to be true.  I don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, but this is beta testing and I'm going to ask probably the dumbest question at times, to get clarification.  Big Smile

    I think B7 introduced this. Your old index was maintained. A new "temporary" index was created that only included your new resources. If you do a basic search, there are now two sections "New Resources" and "Library Results". Under "New Resources" you will see a link to merge the new resources index and the Old resources index into a new old resources index :-) This is where eternity comes into view.


    Oh, no!!!  Yes, it was with B7 and I thought it had to do with the temporary index but I hoped it was the real indexer.  Double, Oh, no.  So, if I am understanding you correctly, Phil, then my old index doesn't contain my newest resources?  And if not, then won't my "indexer" or whatever is the automatic feature just start indexing to merge the two or do I have to make it do that?  And here I was thinking that indexing was super fast.  Oh, no!
  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    Oh, no!!!  Yes, it was with B7 and I thought it had to do with the temporary index but I hoped it was the real indexer.  Double, Oh, no.  So, if I am understanding you correctly, Phil, then my old index doesn't contain my newest resources?  And if not, then won't my "indexer" or whatever is the automatic feature just start indexing to merge the two or do I have to make it do that?  And here I was thinking that indexing was super fast.  Oh, no!

    When you search, it will search both the supplemental index (with the new resources) and the main index (the "old index") in sequence, and will give you the option to merge the two indexes:

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    Clicking on "merge indexes now" will start a complete (long) reindexing. You can do so at your convenience, but you don't even have to if you don't mind the two phase search.

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  • spitzerpl
    spitzerpl Member Posts: 4,998

    And here I was thinking that indexing was super fast.  Oh, no!

    There is hope over the Horizon. It's just tomorrow's horizon and not today's. The great and wonderful indexing wizards of log OS are working, by their own admission, on a Post 4.0 indexing process that will truly merge new information into the old index without destroying the old index.

  • Juanita
    Juanita Member Posts: 1,339

    Oh, no!!!  Yes, it was with B7 and I thought it had to do with the temporary index but I hoped it was the real indexer.  Double, Oh, no.  So, if I am understanding you correctly, Phil, then my old index doesn't contain my newest resources?  And if not, then won't my "indexer" or whatever is the automatic feature just start indexing to merge the two or do I have to make it do that?  And here I was thinking that indexing was super fast.  Oh, no!

    When you search, it will search both the supplemental index (with the new resources) and the main index in sequence, and will give you the option to merge the two indexes:

    image

    Clicking on "merge indexes now" will start a complete (long) reindexing. You can do so at your convenience, but you don't even have to if you don't mind the two phase search.


    Todd, thanks for that info.  I will see what happens later when I do merge the indices.   And I will hold off feeling really dumb and disappointed until I see how long indexing REALLY does take. 
  • Juanita
    Juanita Member Posts: 1,339

    And here I was thinking that indexing was super fast.  Oh, no!

    There is hope over the Horizon. It's just tomorrow's horizon and not today's. The great and wonderful indexing wizards of log OS are working, by their own admission, on a Post 4.0 indexing process that will truly merge new information into the old index without destroying the old index.


    The list of "post 4.0" keeps getting longer.  Hence, the need to keep v. 3 up and running; there are just too many functions lacking that are needs, not wants.  Thanks, Phil.