Religious and Theological Abstracts - Prepub

Jim Carlile
Jim Carlile Member Posts: 57 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

I received a prepub notification for: "Religious and Theological Abstracts". I have a question before considering it. Is this a database that will be updated from time to time? Or does it cover abstracts over a specific period of time? If so what is the period of time covered?

Thanks

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  • NetworkGeek
    NetworkGeek Member Posts: 3,790 ✭✭✭

    Good question, I was wondering this too...

  • Ronald Quick
    Ronald Quick Member Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭

    Along with wondering if there would be updates, I also wanted to know what other journal were included because the product description page states: "and dozens more."

    This is definitely one prepub I am interested in.

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,835

    For a listing of the journals included check out the web site here: http://rtabstracts.org/

    You can purchase 1 year of Internet Access to these abstracts for $45.00.

    One 'problem' is with a few hundred journals covered and so few in Logos format, you'll get lots of hits you probably can't use. It would seem someone doing research would really want this tool along with access to a top-rate seminary library.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Sam Henderson
    Sam Henderson Member Posts: 166 ✭✭

    It would seem someone doing research would really want this tool along with access to a top-rate seminary library.

     

    ... In which case one would expect to have access to a printed or online version of a periodicals/dissertations abstract database.

     

  • Tom Reynolds
    Tom Reynolds Member Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭

    I received a prepub notification for: "Religious and Theological Abstracts". I have a question before considering it. Is this a database that will be updated from time to time? Or does it cover abstracts over a specific period of time? If so what is the period of time covered?

    According to their website RTA dates back to 1958 but who knows what Logos' prepub includes because they tell us nothing. I really shake my head and wonder what they're thinking some of the time. I think we can all agree that RTA sounds great but your questions all need to be answered before anyone spends even $1 on this. Seeing as they charge $45 per year for online access I can't see them giving us free updates in the future. I'd love to put in an order but not until they give us some more information.

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,835

    .. In which case one would expect to have access to a printed or online version of a periodicals/dissertations abstract database.

    And then this resource might be one they already have. So it begs the question, who would want this in Logos format?

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just paid for a one-year subscription to rtabstracts.org to check it out. The search capabilities on the site are awesome. If you're trying to research a topic and want to see what journal articles might contribute to your research, this is a great way to do it. Yes, you'd still need to find some way to get hold of the actual text of the articles through a library, but you get a short abstract of each article, so you can tell which articles are going to be useful for your research.

    I have no idea what sort of access to that database Logos is going to be able to provide us for a one-time fee of $49.95. Are they going to just give us a snapshot of the whole thing as of some year (perhaps 2009 or 2010)? I can't imagine they'd just give us one year's worth for that price, but maybe it'll be a limited range of years. They do not as yet have a mechanism for time-bound subscriptions to things that automatically stay current with the latest data. Maybe this is going to be an experiment in trying that out and maybe they haven't yet figured out how it's going to work enough to describe it properly in the product page. Just speculation. I'd prefer to pay a higher amount and have guaranteed lifetime access to it, with all the most current data.

    I have asked a sales rep to find out more for me, and he says "Your question is currently being bounced around the company..." and once he gets an answer he'll let me know. I'm guessing this is something that nobody really thought through very well before putting it out there. We need more info to be able to make a decision as to whether to order this. Witness the very slow rate of interest being gathered.

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,835

    Just bumping this up after the weekend to see if we can get some Logos input on this resource at this point.

    What period of time does this database cover?

    Will this resource be updated periodically? What would be the anticipated cost if this is done?

    Will all Logos journals, including those already released, be hyper-linked to abstracts in this resource?

    Thank you.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have asked a sales rep to find out more for me, and he says "Your question is currently being bounced around the company..." and once he gets an answer he'll let me know.

    I've gotten a reply. This is from Ken Smith in ETD (Electronic Text Development):

    "Our license is unrestricted, so the first offering should include all the data currently available on the RTA web site www.rtabstracts.org. I would assume the years covered will vary for each journal, based on publication dates and how much has been abstracted.

    "As I understand it, we will be updating the resource to include new data at regular intervals."

    I would assume that "updating the resource to include new data at regular intervals" means that those who own it will automatically get those updates, because that's what happens now for any resources that get updated.

    This is really awesome! I do hope they will make the abstracts link to the full text if it's in our library. Judging by how good a job they did on that with Catena Aurea, I'm guessing this would be a top priority for them. I would make no sense not to do so.

  • tom
    tom Member Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭
  • Stephen Paynter
    Stephen Paynter Member Posts: 206 ✭✭


    Sounds great!

    I'm in.

    so am I


     

    Me three. This is great ... the best news since the JBL made it into development.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is great ... the best news since the JBL made it into development.

    Looks like this one might take just as long as JBL to get to the 100% mark, and it's way cheaper and of more broad appeal. It's just that perhaps not enough people know about it and how useful it is. If they've not spent time in a seminary library with access to RTA in print, they might not know it used to be one of the first things you'd head for when doing research for a paper. Now having it in Logos, with an unlimited license, for this cheap -- how awesome can life get?!!!!

  • Kenny Larsen
    Kenny Larsen Member Posts: 120 ✭✭

    Rosie. and others,

    Can you explain to me why it's so useful? I'm from a science background research wise and therefore am used to heading to online search engines (web of science, etc.) for abstracts and papers etc. Is this essentially the equivalent? It may help to give a run down of how it might be used.

    Thanks,

    Kenny

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Can you explain to me why it's so useful? I'm from a science background research wise and therefore am used to heading to online search engines (web of science, etc.) for abstracts and papers etc. Is this essentially the equivalent? It may help to give a run down of how it might be used.

    Yes, that's essentially what it is. Here's the search screen from their website (which only subscribers can access):

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    Below I've given a the list of all the journals they abstract. 

    Here's an example of an abstract from an article in one of those journals which you could find using this resource (I found this among 1335 results by searching for "technology" so that search hit is highlighted):

     

    Author: Hutchings, Timothy
    Title: The Internet and the Church: An Introduction.
    Journal: Expository Times
    Year: 2010
    Volume: 122(1)
    Page: 11-19
    Abstract: The Internet is connecting people and organizations around the world in important new ways, changing the way we relate to one another, find resources, share information and form communities. These changes have important implications for Christians and their churches. Offers an overview of online activity, including websites, blogs, forums, social network sites, virtual worlds and online evangelism, and introduces theoretical work on the importance of online social networking, the role of the user in shaping technology, and the balance between control and participation in online activity.

    So if I found this abstract and realized the article would be useful for my research, I could request a copy of the article itself through my local library. There is no way I'd even know this article existed if I didn't have the search capability.

    You can do powerful combinations of searches (which Logos's search engine will allow us to do as well) to pinpoint exactly the results you want. For example, I searched among all these theological journals for titles or abstracts mentioning the word "technology" in articles published between 1970 and 2010, and then I went through and selected the ones I was interested in and generated a report. This was the result: 3146.RTAbstracts (1970-2010) with 'technology'.pdf

    Bringing access to all of this to Logos users is going to be amazing!

    The next (dream) step would be to have full text of all the abstracted journals available to Logos users, but that would be much more costly and not even all these journals are available in online editions yet.

    Now here is the list of all the journals they abstract:

     Acta Patristica et Byzantina
     Acta Theologica
     AETEI Journal
     Africa Theological Journal
     Al-Masaq
     Al-Tawhid
     Aldersgate Papers
     Aleph: Historical Studies in Science and Judaism
     America
     American Baptist Quarterly
     American Benedictine Review
     American Catholic Philosophical Quarterly
     American Ecclesiastical Review
     American Journal of Pastoral Counseling
     American Journal of Theology & Philosophy
     American Presbyterians
     Ancient Near Eastern Studies
     Andover Newton Quarterly
     Andrews University Seminary Studies
     Angelicum
     Anglican Theological Review
     Anima: An Experimental Journal
     Annales Theologici
     Annual Society of Christian Ethics
     Antonianum
     Aramaic Studies
     Arasaradi Journal of Theological Reflection
     ARC: The Journal of the Faculty of Religious Studies, McGill University
     Archaeology in the Biblical World
     Archiv fur Reformationsgeschichte
     Archives de Sciences Soc des Rel
     Arts in Religious and Theological Studies
     Asbury Journal
     Asbury Seminarian
     Asbury Theological Journal
     Ashland Theological Journal
     Asia Adventist Seminary Studies
     Asia Journal of Theology
     Asian Philosophy
     ATA Journal
     Augustinian Studies
     Austin Seminary Bulletin
     Australasian Catholic Record
     Australian Biblical Review

     Baha'i Studies Review
     Bangalore Theological Forum
     Baptist History and Heritage
     Baptist Quarterly
     Baptist Reformation Review
     Baptist Review of Theology/La Revue Baptiste de Theologie
     Benedictina
     Beth Mikra
     Bible et Vie Chretienne
     Bible Review
     Bible Today
     Bible Translator
     Biblica
     Biblical Archaeologist
     Biblical Archaeology Review
     Biblical Interpretation
     Biblical Research
     Biblical Theology Bulletin
     Biblical Viewpoint
     Bibliotheca Sacra
     Biblische Zeitschrift
     Bijdragen
     Black Theology in Britain
     Black Theology: An International Journal
     Bogoslovni Vestnik
     Bogoslovska Smotra
     Brethren Life and Thought
     Bridges
     British Journal of Religious Education
     Buddhist-Christian Studies
     Bulletin for Biblical Research
     Bulletin John Rylands Library
     Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research
     Bulletin of the Evangelical Theological Society
     Bulletin of the International Organization for Septuagint and Cognate Studies
     Bulletin of the Israel Exploration Society

     Cahiers de Josephologie
     Cahiers de Traduction Biblique
     Calvary Baptist Theological Journal
     Calvin Theological Journal
     Canadian Journal of Theology
     Caregiver Journal
     Catholic Biblical Quarterly
     Catholic Historical Review
     Catholic Social Science Review
     Catholica
     Cauriensia. Revista anual de Ciencias Eclesiasticas
     Center Journal
     Central Conference of American Rabbis Journal
     CGST Journal
     Chaplaincy Today
     Chicago Studies
     Chicago Theological Seminary Register
     Chinese Theological Review
     Ching Feng
     Christian Brethren Review
     Christian Century
     Christian Counseling Today
     Christian Education Journal
     Christian Higher Education
     Christian Orient
     Christian Scholar
     Christian Scholar's Review
     Christianesimo Nella Storia
     Christianity & Literature
     Christianity and Crisis
     Christianity Today
     Christus
     Church History
     Church Quarterly
     Church Quarterly Review
     Clergy Monthly
     Clergy Monthly Supplement
     Clergy Review
     College of the Bible Quarterly
     Colloquium: The Australian and New Zealand Theological Review
     Communautes et Liturgies
     Communio Viatorium
     Communio: International Catholic Review
     Comparative Islamic Studies
     Concilium
     Concordia Historical Institute Quarterly
     Concordia Journal
     Concordia Theological Monthly
     Concordia Theological Quarterly
     Conrad Grebel Review
     Conservative Judaism
     Contemporary Buddhism
     Coptic Church Review
     Counseling and Spirituality
     Covenant Quarterly
     Cristianismo y Sociedad
     Criswell Theological Review
     Criterion
     Crkva u Svijetu
     Croatia Christiana Periodica
     Cross Currents
     Crux
     Cultural Encounters
     Culture and Religion
     Currents in Biblical Research
     Currents in Research: Biblical Studies
     Currents in Theology and Mission

     Dansk Teologisk Tidsskrift
     DavarLogos
     Dead Sea Discoveries
     Der Islam
     Detroit Baptist Seminary Journal
     Dharma Deepika
     Diakonia
     Dialog
     Dialogue and Alliance
     Didascalia
     Didaskalia
     Disciples Theological Digest
     Divinitas
     Dominicana
     Doon Theological Journal
     Dor Le Dor
     Downside Review
     Doxology
     Drew Gateway

     East Asia Journal of Theology
     Eastern Churches Journal
     Eastern Churches Review
     Ecclesiology
     Ecotheology
     Ecumenical Review
     Eglise et Theologie
     Emmaus Journal
     Encounter
     Enlightenment and Dissent
     Environmental Ethics
     Ephemerides Theologicae Lovanienses
     Epiphany International
     Epiphany Journal
     Epworth Review
     Eretz-Israel
     Ethical Perspectives
     Ethics and Medicine
     ETSI Journal
     Etudes Theologiques et Religieuses
     European Journal of Theology
     Eusebeia
     Evangel
     Evangelical Journal
     Evangelical Missions Quarterly
     Evangelical Quarterly
     Evangelical Review of Society and Politics
     Evangelical Review of Theology
     Evangelische Theologie
     Ex Auditu
     Exchange
     Expository Times

     Faith and Freedom
     Faith and Mission
     Faith and Philosophy
     Family and Community Ministries Journal
     Family Ministry
     Feminist Theology
     Fides et Historia
     Fides Reformata
     Filologia Neotestamentaria
     First Things
     Foi et Vie
     Forum (Foundations & Facets)
     Foundations
     Foundations (British)
     Free University Quarterly
     Fujen Religious Studies

     Geist und Leben
     Gereformeerd Theologisch Tijdschrift
     Glaube und Lernen
     Global Journal of Classical Theology
     Gordon Review
     Grace Journal
     Grace Theological Journal
     Gratz College Annual of Jewish Studies
     Great Commission Research Journal
     Greek Orthodox Theological Review
     Gregorianum

     Hamdard Islamicus
     Hartford Quarterly
     Harvard Theological Review
     Hastings Center Report
     Hebrew Annual Review
     Hebrew Studies
     Hebrew Union College Annual
     Henceforth...
     Hermeneutica
     Hervormde Teologiese Studies
     Heythrop Journal
     Hibbert Journal
     Hill Road
     Hindu-Christian Studies Bulletin
     Hispania Sacra
     History of Religions
     Homiletic and Pastoral Review
     Horizons
     Horizons in Biblical Theology
     HTS Teologiese Studies/Theological Studies
     Human Reproduction and Genetic Ethics
     Hymn
     Hymnology Annual

     IDOC Bulletin
     Ilu, Revista de Ciencias de las Religiones
     Image: A Journal of Arts and Religion
     Immanuel
     Implicit Religion
     In Die Skriflig
     Indian Church History Review
     Indian Journal of Theology
     Insights
     Interculture (English Ed)
     International Bulletin of Missionary Research
     International Journal for Philosophy of Religion
     International Journal for the Psychology of Religion
     International Journal for the Study of the Christian Church
     International Journal Of Children's Spirituality
     International Journal of Practical Theology
     International Journal of Public Theology
     International Journal of Systematic Theology
     International Review of Mission
     Interpretation
     Interrnational Journal for the Psychology of Religion
     Irenikon
     Irish Biblical Studies
     Irish Theological Quarterly
     Islam and Christian-Muslim Relations
     Israel Exploration Journal
     Ius Canonicum

     Japan Christian Quarterly
     Japan Christian Review
     Japanese Journal of Religious Studies
     Japanese Religions
     Jerusalem Perspective
     Jewish Bible Quarterly
     Jewish Education
     Jewish History
     Jewish Quarterly Review
     Jewish Social Studies
     Jewish Studies, An Internet Journal
     Jian Dao
     Journal for Christian Theological Research
     Journal for the Critical Study of Religion
     Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion
     Journal for the Study of Judaism
     Journal for the Study of Pseudepigrapha
     Journal for the Study of Religion
     Journal for the Study of Religion Nature and Culture
     Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus
     Journal for the Study of the New Testament
     Journal for the Study of the Old Testament
     Journal for Theology and the Church
     Journal from the Radical Reformation
     Journal of Anglican Studies
     Journal of Asia Adventist Seminary
     Journal of Asian and Asian American Theology
     Journal of Baha'i Studies
     Journal of Beliefs & Values
     Journal of Bible and Religion
     Journal of Biblical and Pneumatological Research
     Journal of Biblical Counseling
     Journal of Biblical Equality
     Journal of Biblical Ethics in Medicine
     Journal of Biblical Literature
     Journal of Biblical Storytelling
     Journal of Buddhist Ethics
     Journal of Christian Brethren Review Fellowship
     Journal of Christian Education
     Journal of Christian Education (US)
     Journal of Church and State
     Journal of Communication and Religion
     Journal of Contemporary Religion
     Journal of Cuneiform Studies
     Journal of Dharma
     Journal of Early Christian Studies
     Journal of Ecclesiastical History
     Journal of Ecumenical Studies
     Journal of Education and Christian Belief
     Journal of Empirical Theology
     Journal of European Baptist Studies
     Journal of Feminist Studies in Religion
     Journal of Health Care Chaplaincy
     Journal of Hebrew Scriptures
     Journal of Hindu-Christian Studies
     Journal of Hispanic/Latino Theology
     Journal of Holocaust Education
     Journal of Interdisciplinary Studies
     Journal of Islamic Studies
     Journal of Israeli History
     Journal of Jewish Education
     Journal of Jewish Studies
     Journal of Law and Religion
     Journal of Media and Religion
     Journal of Medieval Religious Cultures
     Journal of Ministry in Addiction & Recovery
     Journal of Ministry in MAR
     Journal of Modern Jewish Studies
     Journal of Moral Education
     Journal of Moral Philosophy
     Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs
     Journal of Near Eastern Studies
     Journal of Northwest Semitic Languages
     Journal of Pastoral Care
     Journal of Pastoral Care and Counseling
     Journal of Pastoral Counseling
     Journal of Pastoral Theology
     Journal of Pentecostal Theology
     Journal of Presbyterian History
     Journal of Progressive Judaism
     Journal of Psychology and Christianity
     Journal of Psychology and Judaism
     Journal of Psychology and Theology
     Journal of Psychology of Religion
     Journal of Reform Judaism
     Journal of Relgious and Theological Information
     Journal of Religion
     Journal of Religion & Abuse
     Journal of Religion and Aging
     Journal of Religion and Health
     Journal of Religion and Society
     Journal of Religion Disability & Health
     Journal of Religion in Africa
     Journal of Religion in Disability & Rehabilitation
     Journal of Religion, Disability & Health
     Journal of Religion, Nature and Culture
     Journal of Religion, Spirituality & Aging
     Journal of Religious and Theological Information
     Journal of Religious Ethics
     Journal of Religious Gerontology
     Journal of Religious History
     Journal of Religious Thought
     Journal of Research on Christian Education
     Journal of Ritual Studies
     Journal of Semitic Studies
     Journal of Shi'a Islamic Studies
     Journal of Spiritual Formation
     Journal of Spiritual Formation & Soul Care
     Journal of Spirituality in Mental Health
     Journal of Studies in Bhagavadgita
     Journal of the Academy for Evangelism in Theological Education
     Journal of the Adventist Theological Society
     Journal of the American Academy of Religion
     Journal of the American Adcademy of Ministry
     Journal of the American Oriental Society
     Journal of the American Scientific Affiliation
     Journal of the American Society of Church Growth
     Journal of the Ancient Near Eastern Society
     Journal of the European Pentecostal Theological Association
     Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society
     Journal of the Grace Evangelical Society
     Journal of the Interdenominational Theological Center
     Journal of the Moscow Patriarchate
     Journal of the Society of Christian Ethics
     Journal of Theological Studies
     Journal of Theology for Southern Africa
     Journal of Translation and Textlinguistics
     Journal of Youth Ministry
     Judaism

     Kairos
     Kairos Evangelical Journal of Theology
     Kairos, Evangelical Journal of Theology
     Katallagete
     Kerux
     Kerygma und Dogma

     Laval Theologique et Philosophique
     Le Sycomore
     Leadership
     Learning for Living
     Leaven
     Leshonenu
     Letter & Spirit
     Levant
     Lexington Theological Quarterly
     Linguistica Biblica
     Listening
     Literature and Theology
     Liturgical Ministry
     Liturgisches Jahrbuch
     Liturgy
     Logia: A Journal of Lutheran Theology
     Logos & Pneuma: Chinese Journal of Theoloigy
     Logos: A Journal of Catholic Thought and Culture
     Logos: A Journal of Catholic Thought and Culture.
     Logos: A Journal of Eastern Christian Studies
     London Quarterly and Holborn Review
     Louvain Studies
     Lumen Vitae
     Luther
     Lutheran Forum
     Lutheran Hist Conference Essays & Reports
     Lutheran Quarterly
     Lutheran Synod Quarterly
     Lutheran Theological Journal
     Lutheran Theological Seminary Bulletin
     Lutheran World

     Maarav
     Maria: A Journal of Marian Studies
     Marian Studies
     Marriage and Family: A Christian Journal
     Master's Seminary Journal
     Material Religion
     McMaster Journal of Theology
     Mediaeval Studies
     Medieval Philosophy and Theology
     Melanesian Journal of Theology
     Melanges de Science Religieuse
     Melita Theologica
     Mennonite Life
     Mennonite Quarterly Review
     Mental Health Religion & Culture
     Mental Health, Religion & Culture
     Metanoia
     Method and Theory in the Study of Religion
     Method: Journal of Lonergan Studies
     Methodist History
     Methodist Review. A Journal of Wesleyan and Methodist Studies
     Mid-America Journal of Theology
     Mid-Stream
     Midwestern Journal of Theology
     Mishkan
     Missiology
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     Missionalia
     Mitologicas
     Modern Believing
     Modern Churchman
     Modern Judaism
     Modern Theology
     Munchener Theologische Zeitschrift
     Muslim World
     Mystics Quarterly

     National Catholic Bioethics Quarterly
     Near Eastern Archaeology
     Nederlands Theologisch Tijdschrift
     Neotestamentica
     Neue Zeitschrift fur Missionswissenschaft
     Neue Zeitschrift fur Systematische Theologie und Religionsphilosophie
     New Blackfriars
     New England Quarterly
     New Mercersburg Review
     New Southern Presbyterian Review
     New Testament Studies
     New Theology Review
     New Zealand Journal of Baptist Research
     Newman Studies Journal
     Norsk Teologisk Tidsskrift
     Notre Dame English Journal
     Nouvelle Revue Theologique
     Nova et Vetera
     Nova Prisutnost
     Nova Religio
     Novum Testamentum
     Numen

     Obnovljeni Zivot
     Occasional Bulletin of Missionary Research
     Ogbomoso Journal of Theology
     Old Testament Essays
     One World
     Orientalia Christiana Periodica
     Ostkirchliche Studien

     Pacific Journal of Baptist Research
     Pacific Journal of Theology
     Pacifica
     Palestine Exploration Quarterly
     Parabola Magazine
     Paraclete
     Pastoral Psychology
     Pastoral Sciences
     Patristic and Byzantine Review
     Periodico de Re Morali Canonico Liturgico
     Perspectives
     Perspectives in Religious Studies
     Perspectives on Science and Christian Faith
     Philo
     Philosophia Christi
     Philosophy & Theology
     Philosophy East and West
     Pneuma Review
     Political Theology
     Pomegranate
     Practical Anthropology
     Praxis Juridique et Religion
     Presbyterion
     Priscilla Papers
     Prism
     Pro Mundi Vita - Studies
     Proceedings (Eastern Great Lakes Biblical Society)
     Proceedings of the American Catholic Philosophical Association
     Proceedings of the Irish Biblical Assocation
     Proceedings of the Irish Biblical Association
     Process Studies
     Proche-Orient Chretien
     Prooftexts
     Psychology and Theology

     Qadmoniot
     Quaker Studies
     Quarterly Review

     Recherches de Theologie et Philosophie Medievales
     Reconstructionist
     Reformation
     Reformation & Renaissance Review
     Reformation and Revival Journal
     Reformed and Presbyterian World
     Reformed Journal
     Reformed Liturgy and Music
     Reformed Review
     Reformed Theological Review
     Reformed World
     Regent Chinese Journal
     Religiologiques
     Religion & Human Rights
     Religion & Theology
     Religion & Theology/Religie & Teologie
     Religion and American Culture
     Religion and Literature
     Religion Compass
     Religion in Education
     Religion in Life
     Religion State and Society
     Religious Education
     Religious Humanism
     Religious Studies
     Religious Studies and Theology
     Religious Studies Review
     Religious Traditions
     Response
     Restoration Quarterly
     Resurrection
     Review and Expositor
     Review of Faith & International Affairs
     Review of Religious Research
     Revista Biblica Brasileira
     Revista di Teologia Morale
     Revista Eclesiastica Braziliera
     Revista Espanola de Derecho Canonico
     Revista Teologica
     Revue Biblique
     Revue d'Etudes Augustiniennes et Patristiques
     Revue d'Histoire Ecclesiastique
     Revue d'Histoire et de Philosophie Religieuse
     Revue de L'Histoire des Religions
     Revue de l'Universite d'Ottawa
     Revue de Qumran
     Revue des Etudes Augustiniennes
     Revue des Sciences Philosophiques et Theologiques
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  • Kenny Larsen
    Kenny Larsen Member Posts: 120 ✭✭

    Excellent, I'm in, especially as it won't be in the next couple of months budgets!

  • Ronald Quick
    Ronald Quick Member Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭

    I'm curious as to why this is moving so slow on the prepub page.  I would have thought many more people would be interested in this.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm curious as to why this is moving so slow on the prepub page.  I would have thought many more people would be interested in this.

    It's an amazing deal. Normally you have to pay $45 a year to subscribe to this. With the Logos resource, we get to pay a one-time fee (in pre-pub that's only $49.95) for unlimited access to the database including all future updates, at least if I'm understanding Ken Smith's email correctly.

    Basically, anyone who is into using theological journals for their research should be jumping all over this one.

    I think the fact that the description page is unclear as to what years are covered and what the license actually gets you might be why it hasn't been noticed by more. Also there might just be some pre-pub fatigue affecting people this month since there've been so many pre-pubs shipping lately and so many more shipping soon.

  • Tom Reynolds
    Tom Reynolds Member Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭

    It's an amazing deal. Normally you have to pay $45 a year to subscribe to this. With the Logos resource, we get to pay a one-time fee (in pre-pub that's only $49.95) for unlimited access to the database including all future updates, at least if I'm understanding Ken Smith's email correctly.

    Hopefully you are understanding it correctly but it would be nice if they updated the product page to confirm it. I'm in now.

    I see on the RTA website that they rely on volunteers for their abstracts so hopefully it can be a win-win if they get more attention through this and more people volunteer to abstract journals, especially foreign ones. Then we'll all have access to more abstracts than previously possible.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,120

    I see on the RTA website that they rely on volunteers for their abstracts so hopefully it can be a win-win if they get more attention through this and more people volunteer to abstract journals, especially foreign ones.

    This is true in nearly all disciplines, although most draft graduate students as their volunteers.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Here's the search screen from their website (which only subscribers can access)

    Actually, I accessed all their Scott Hahn abstracts quite easily. You can only see 5 results at a time without subscription, but I looked at the date of the oldest one, and then went to Advanced Search and worked my way backwards with the help of the Date Range. Of course, this works fine with only 10 results by one and the same author; for lots of results it might be slightly inconvenient...

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • David Bailey
    David Bailey Member Posts: 654 ✭✭

    It's an amazing deal. Normally you have to pay $45 a year to subscribe to this. With the Logos resource, we get to pay a one-time fee (in pre-pub that's only $49.95) for unlimited access to the database including all future updates, at least if I'm understanding Ken Smith's email correctly.

    This would be a dream come true for those who are studying theology in academics. After reading this thread, I've added it to my list of pre-pub orders.  I'm not 100% certain if I will keep this, since I am not in academics or school (I only work at one).  Thanks, Rosie, for the details of what RTA is about and the list of Journals that can be searched.

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    One 'problem' is with a few hundred journals covered and so few in Logos format, you'll get lots of hits you probably can't use. It would seem someone doing research would really want this tool along with access to a top-rate seminary library.

    You have to have "access to a top-rate seminary library" to get hold of articles in the US? Over here, I can just walk into the public library and state what I want, and they'll get it for me in a few weeks -- from the US if need be. Last summer they borrowed a book for me from the University of Pittsburgh or Pennsylvania or something, since it was out of print and they couldn't find anywhere in Europe. Of course, if it's an article, I'll just get photocopies. The real irony is, that if I still lived in a university town and had access to a university library, I'd have to pay for the copies (not for loans), but out here it's perfectly free. imageimageimageimageimage

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • Allen Browne
    Allen Browne Member Posts: 1,893 ✭✭✭

    I'm in too.

    As to why the pre-pub is moving so slowly, it would be helpful if Logos could clarify the page to explain exactly what we are getting. Hopefully more people would jump in then.

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    fgh said:

    You have to have "access to a top-rate seminary library" to get hold of articles in the US? Over here, I can just walk into the public library and state what I want, and they'll get it for me in a few weeks -- from the US if need be.

    In the US and Canada, a local public library can also get us whatever book we need (even if they don't have it) through Inter-Library Loan, or copies of articles from journals that are at some other library. It's one of the few really valuable things that our property taxes pay for!

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    In the US and Canada, a local public library can also get us whatever book we need

    Good! Then I don't have to feel sorry for you any more...[:)] At least not for that... [:P]

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 55,120

    In the US and Canada, a local public library can also get us whatever book we need (even if they don't have it) through Inter-Library Loan, or copies of articles from journals that are at some other library.

    Within reason [:D]. A friend working on a doctoral thesis in Tibetan Buddhism did two things whenever the required pages to be copied resided in the Yale library. First, he put in the interlibrary loan request to have the section copied. Second, he called a laundromat near the Yale campus. [It is so tempting to stop here and make you guess the connection [6]] He'd ask the owner of the laundromat, who was Tibetan, to go to the Yale library and find the section for the librarians to copy  Some laudromat owners are invaluable resources.[:D]

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭
  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bump

    Are you bumping this thread to get an answer to the OP's question (I posted the answer I got from Logos above; see: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/28193/210796.aspx#210796) or to get more people interested in this pre-pub resource?

  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭

    Are you bumping this thread to get an answer to the OP's question (I posted the answer I got from Logos above; see: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/28193/210796.aspx#210796) or to get more people interested in this pre-pub resource?

    No - to help push this resource into production. There is helpful information that may have been missed earlier - I know I did.  Thought it might be of value to others.

     

    Blessings,
    Floyd

    Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,835

    No - to help push this resource into production.

    At the current rate of sign-ups and assuming no acceleration I estimate this offering will reside in Pre-Pub just slightly longer than Barnes Notes did in Community Pricing.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭

    No - to help push this resource into production.

    At the current rate of sign-ups and assuming no acceleration I estimate this offering will reside in Pre-Pub just slightly longer than Barnes Notes did in Community Pricing.

    But even Barnes eventually went into production.  If it is ignored, we know what the results will be.  

     

    Blessings,
    Floyd

    Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,835

     If it is ignored, we know what the results will be.  

    Totally agree.

    Brother Barnes has become the Patron Saint of Lost Pre-Pub Hopes. He is such an encouragement to those with fading hopes for any of a number of fine titles languishing on the lists. Let us hope this will not be one of them.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Floyd  Johnson
    Floyd Johnson Member Posts: 4,002 ✭✭✭

    Blessings,
    Floyd

    Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Glad to see someone bumping this. I've thought about doing so for months, but have never gotten around to it. 

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2