Sharing resources of LOGos 4 with Kindle

On the PC you can copy and paste text - using the standard tools.  If this can be done on a Mac, then you can send your books to the Kindle to read.  You could also copy them into Open Office and print them into PDFs for downloading to the Kindle.  

On the PC there is a program called Mobipocket Creator - this will create Mobi files that can be read on the Kindle as a Kindle book.

This works perfectly...although, I've only cut and pasted less than a whole book of course, it's enough to get some reading done on the kindle.

Having experimented a bit with this, the mobile view of biblia.com is the least labour-intensive approach to reading a whole Logos book on the Kindle.

There is a thread in the Biblia.com forum that deals with this.

A friend just copied a book from Logos 4 (new release) for PC into a Word doc then emailed it to his_name@kindle.com with "convert" in the subject line.  It arrived converted on his Kindle and the formatting looks really good.  

Rob said:

A friend just copied a book from Logos 4 (new release) for PC into a Word doc then emailed it to his_name@kindle.com with "convert" in the subject line.  It arrived converted on his Kindle and the formatting looks really good.  

I've never been able to get this to work...hmmm

I've been experimenting with this a bit since I have a number of books in various Bible software platforms that I would simply like to read from beginning to end. I have both an iPad and a Kindle, and like many who have both, for long reading sessions, I believe the Kindle device is a much better choice. 

Regarding titles in Logos, if using the Logos app on the iPad, the big problem is that you cannot take notes. Not too long ago, this was not a big deal for me. But reading ebooks on my Kindle or even in the Kindle app on my iPad has made this a desirable habit. 

It's true that you can simply copy the text of a book in Logos to Word and send it to your Kindle's email address. This is quick and works flawlessly. Unfortunately, on your Kindle home screen, the "author" displayed is the email address from where you sent the document. I wanted the author to match the name of the actual author. 

Lately, I've been in the mood to re-read some early Eugene Peterson. Rather than buy the Kindle version of The Contemplative Pastor, I remembered that I already had this in my Logos library. Since I've already experimented with converting a Word document (again, probably the easiest method), I decided to try out the free Calibre software. 

So I copied the entire contents from the Logos version of The Contemplative Pastor to Word and then imported it into Calibre. No, I did not read the instructions, and simply assumed that Calibre would read a Word document. It does not. So, in checking the formats Calibre will read, I exported the text out of Word into an HTML file. 

Calibre converted this easily to the Amazon Mobi format. I then emailed the book to my Kindle and it appeared within minutes. This whole process took only about 10 minutes. It would have probably taken less time if I'd known what I was doing right off. The only thing I did not do was to create a true, linked Table of Contents. Although I didn't do this, it does not look like a difficult process at all. 

Now check out my results in these screenshots from the Kindle:

Above: Note that The Contemplative Pastor shows up in my book list with the correct author just like any regular Kindle book.

Above: The cover page. Notice even the placement of "Volume 17" to the side is just like the Logos edition.

Above: the copyright page. Note that bold formatting was retained. 

Above: the first page of the second chapter. Note the formatting that's been retained: italics, different-sized fonts, larger capital for first letter in chapter. 

Above: note that the Kindle's built in dictionary works with the book, just like any regular Kindle book. 

Above: Highlighting and notes work. You can even share the note via Twitter & Facebook. 

All things considered, this seems to be the best way to read books from Logos and other Bible software on a Kindle. By converting the book with Calibre, the Kindle treats it just as it would any regular book that would be bought from the Amazon, with perhaps the exception of page numbers (now that Amazon has begun adding these). 

Keith Larson said:

Did you use the "Save As" command in Word?  If so did you save it as a regulare HTML file or a filtered one (whatever that means)?

Yes, I simply used the Save As command. For the rest of your question, I had to take another look. I hadn't deleted the Word file yet, so I opened it again, hit Save As, which brought up this dialogue (I've cropped out the top part).

I didn't make any changes but simply saved with these settings. I don't see a "filtered" setting. I'm using Word 2011. 

Keith Larson said:

I now only wish Logos would create a one bottom solution to this, by adding a mobi converter directly into Logos.

I can't imagine them ever doing this because of the fear of non-DRM copies of texts floating around. Certainly, that's what I've created in Calibre, but I'm not going to distribute it to anyone. Adding the conversion directly into the software might make it too easy for those who would, though. 

Bootleg (i.e. non-paid) copies of texts is the biggest fear of publishers and authors in regard to eBooks. 

Kevin A. Purcell said:

R. Mansfield said:

Bootleg (i.e. non-paid) copies of texts is the biggest fear of publishers and authors in regard to eBooks. 

And proves how near sited they are. They only see the theft.

Don't forget that Logos licenses these books from publishers.  While I have no idea what end the decision is made on, it's just as likely that publishers would balk at this for the same reason.  

Robert Pavich said:

Not even an argument, brother....anything that's stealable will be stolen....Romans 3....

 

Even Christians steal on a regular basis and think nothing of it.

 

If I had a dollar for every Christian I know who pirates MP3s instead of buying them, or passes them to friends instead of the friends purchasing the album...I'd be rich.

 

There is a mindset that says "stealing digital stuff isn't really stealing."....

I agree 100%, but the fact is those so called "Christians" will do it anyway. (I personally doubt that they have been born again. 1 Cor. 6:9-10)   It looks like in less than an hours work a person can already convert any book in their Logos library to a fully compatable Kindle title.  The only people being hurt by having to jump through all these hoops to convert our Logos books to Kindel format is the honest users.  The theives will do it anyway.  I think that is what Kevin means by publishers being short sighted.

Robert Pavich said:

There is a mindset that says "stealing digital stuff isn't really stealing."....

Rob said:

A friend just copied a book from Logos 4 (new release) for PC into a Word doc then emailed it to his_name@kindle.com with "convert" in the subject line.  It arrived converted on his Kindle and the formatting looks really good.  

this just isn't working for me...I've tried the "name@free.kindle.com email and nothing happens...do I do something else on my kindle to receive the docs?

Just a little FYI for everyone:

Please note that coping and sending the data to a kindle is in violation of Logos' EULA.  The EULA has a section titled "THINGS YOU MAY NOT DO," and in this section the EULA states that we cannot "copy the Software or Content except to make archival or backup copies as provided above."

Because sending data to a kindle is not classified as archival or backup, sending data to a kindle is in violation of Logos' EULA

tom collinge said:

Just a little FYI for everyone:

Please note that coping and sending the data to a kindle is in violation of Logos' EULA.  The EULA has a section titled "THINGS YOU MAY NOT DO," and in this section the EULA states that we cannot "copy the Software or Content except to make archival or backup copies as provided above."

Because sending data to a kindle is not classified as archival or backup, sending data to a kindle is in violation of Logos' EULA

Tom, I doubt it's so clear cut. Your last sentence is an interpretation of the EULA. I suppose we'd have to have a Logos representative weigh in on this to be certain.

However, I would interpret making a copy of a Logos book to read on my Kindle as archival in nature. It's the same principle of recording a television show to a DVR (or VCR). The law has said the consumer can do this even though the medium of the content has changed. Heck, if I want to transfer a TV show from my TiVo to my Mac and then burn it to a privately held DVD, I can do this. This all falls under the fair use provisions of US copyright laws. You simply cannot distribute the content to other parties.