There are a few Charismatic Universities and I was wondering if there are any Logos 4 users that received their  M.Div from ORU, Regent,or other Pentecostal University.
I would guess not at this time.
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Or at least not ones that read and keep caught up with the forums every day. There are over 3/4 million Logos users, and only 43,000 of them on the forums, and of those not all are active daily readers. And if a day goes by when you don't read all the latest posts, you can easily miss one. Also some people are lurkers who read the forums but never post.
Rosie is correct on this. An assistant pastor friend of mine just got his Master's from Regent University (in Virginia Beach), has Logos-4, but rarely, if ever, reads the forums.
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PPK Enterprises, I suggest you give a "bump" to this thread every 5-6 days for the next three or four weeks, and maybe someone will notice it whom you'd like to be in touch with.
Lurkers? I was under the impression posting was optional! If you see a post that can help, you use it - if you have a problem and need help you can post (or call Logos C.S.). I have used Logos for a number of years and also monitor the forum off and on over the past year.  I would not call this Lurking. No offense but perhaps you should lookup a word in the dictionary before addding it as a tag on Logos users. This is just my opinion.
Thomas
 I would not call this Lurking. No offense but perhaps you should lookup a word in the dictionary before addding it as a tag on Logos users. This is just my opinion.
Lurking is the commonly used word on the internet for reading but not interacting with a discussion board:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurker
It may sound negative if you never heard it used that way before, but there's no insult intended by it. Please don't take offense.
Lurkers? I was under the impression posting was optional!
Yes, of course, posting is definitely optional, and there's lots of useful info here to be had for those who just read and don't post.
Todd pointed you to the definition of lurkers that I was using. I'm sorry you thought I meant something else. The present online forum usage of that word is not at all pejoritive, though historically I guess there was a sense that if someone wasn't posting, they were "lurking" in the shadows out of fear perhaps or they had some nefarious purpose and didn't want to be found out. But nowadays there is none of that negative connotation, and I certainly had nothing of the kind in mind.
Lurking is very much encouraged for newbies (and any information gleaners in general) on a forum, and is probably what most Logos forum users do. There are over 43,000 people with forum accounts, and only 224,000 posts, which would be an average of about 5 posts each; but many of us have posted in the multiple hundreds or even thousands, so that means many, many folks are not posting at all. It's not anything to be ashamed of. If someone has got nothing to say, why then of course it's best not to post anything.
Merriam-Webster, I. (2003). Merriam-Webster's collegiate dictionary. (Eleventh ed.). Springfield, Mass.: Merriam-Webster, Inc.
Non taken, however, there are a lot of "commonly used word " that should not be used on This forum. Just my opinion.
———————lurk \ˈlərk\ vi[ME; akin to MHG lūren to lie in wait — more at lower] 14c 1     a     : to lie in wait in a place of concealment esp. for an evil purpose      b     : to move furtively or inconspicuously      c     : to persist in staying 2     a     : to be concealed but capable of being discovered specif : to constitute a latent threat      b     : to lie hidden 3          : to read messages on an Internet discussion forum (as a newsgroup or chat room) without contributing — lurk•er n syn lurk, skulk, slink, sneak mean to behave so as to escape attention. lurk implies a lying in wait in a place of concealment and often suggests an evil intent 〈suspicious men lurking in alleyways〉. skulk suggests more strongly cowardice or fear or sinister intent 〈something skulking in the shadows〉. slink implies moving stealthily often merely to escape attention 〈slunk around the corner〉. sneak may add an implication of entering or leaving a place or evading a difficulty by furtive or underhanded methods 〈sneaked out early〉.Merriam-Webster, I. (2003). Merriam-Webster's collegiate dictionary. (Eleventh ed.). Springfield, Mass.: Merriam-Webster, Inc.Non taken, however, there are a lot of "commonly used word " that should not be used on This forum. Just my opinion.Thomas
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I have lurked several forums until I caught a thread that interested me and then I interacted. Lurking is a very effective way of "surveying the landscape" and it really is nothing more than that.  How about looking up in the references "tweeting" and see what you come up with as I imagine it is quite difference from what was a formal definition would state. ?
——————— lurk \ˈlərk\ vi [ME; akin to MHG lūren to lie in wait — more at lower] 14c 1     a     : to lie in wait in a place of concealment esp. for an evil purpose      b     : to move furtively or inconspicuously      c     : to persist in staying 2     a     : to be concealed but capable of being discovered specif : to constitute a latent threat      b     : to lie hidden 3          : to read messages on an Internet discussion forum (as a newsgroup or chat room) without contributing — lurk•er n syn lurk, skulk, slink, sneak mean to behave so as to escape attention. lurk implies a lying in wait in a place of concealment and often suggests an evil intent 〈suspicious men lurking in alleyways〉. skulk suggests more strongly cowardice or fear or sinister intent 〈something skulking in the shadows〉. slink implies moving stealthily often merely to escape attention 〈slunk around the corner〉. sneak may add an implication of entering or leaving a place or evading a difficulty by furtive or underhanded methods 〈sneaked out early〉. ... Non taken, however, there are a lot of "commonly used word " that should not be used on This forum. Just my opinion.
——————— lurk \ˈlərk\ vi [ME; akin to MHG lūren to lie in wait — more at lower] 14c 1     a     : to lie in wait in a place of concealment esp. for an evil purpose      b     : to move furtively or inconspicuously      c     : to persist in staying 2     a     : to be concealed but capable of being discovered specif : to constitute a latent threat      b     : to lie hidden 3          : to read messages on an Internet discussion forum (as a newsgroup or chat room) without contributing — lurk•er n syn lurk, skulk, slink, sneak mean to behave so as to escape attention. lurk implies a lying in wait in a place of concealment and often suggests an evil intent 〈suspicious men lurking in alleyways〉. skulk suggests more strongly cowardice or fear or sinister intent 〈something skulking in the shadows〉. slink implies moving stealthily often merely to escape attention 〈slunk around the corner〉. sneak may add an implication of entering or leaving a place or evading a difficulty by furtive or underhanded methods 〈sneaked out early〉.
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Come on! The definition you quoted to me included "3:Â to read messages on an Internet discussion forum (as a newsgroup or chat room) without contributing" (which is neutral, not negative).
If we had to avoid every word where definition X had some negative connotation and definition Y didn't, and the latter is the sense in which we meant it, we would not be able to use half the words in the English language. (Try talking about your carpentry project without using several words that might be offensive in other contexts.)
I don't think you're consciously proposing to be that extreme, but that is the implication of your expecting me not to use the word lurk on an online forum to refer to a usage of online forums which is commonly termed lurking (with no negative implication). In order to have normal communication, we use the words as commonly understood and don't let the other possible meanings of that word get in our way. Otherwise we end up like Humpty Dumpty in Through the Looking Glass, where words mean whatever we want them to mean, and we easily take offense at others' normal attempts to communicate with us.
Ok! My last post on the subject! T0 All - use any word(s) you think fits. I am the one thats in the wrong place and reading the wrong forum.
I'm sorry, Thomas. I didn't mean for you to feel chased away. May the Lord bless you in your use of Logos and may the Logos forums be a blessing to you. If anyhing I've said has caused you to stumble or be hurt, I apologize. I see you are not a frequent poster here on these forums. Feel free to keep reading and post occasionally as you wish. You are not a lurker if you don't want to be called one. You're an "interested occasional participant," OK? [:)] Peace to you.
Nothing wrong with forum lurking. I do it often. In fact there are times when I've posted and I've thought I would have been better off continuing to lurk.[;)]
Nothing wrong with forum lurking. I do it often. In fact there are times when I've posted and I've thought I would have been better off continuing to lurk.
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I was wondering if there are any Logos 4 users that received their  M.Div from ORU, Regent,or other Pentecostal University.
——————— lurk \ˈlərk\ vi [ME; akin to MHG lūren to lie in wait — more at lower] 14c 1     a     : to lie in wait in a place of concealment esp. for an evil purpose      b     : to move furtively or inconspicuously      c     : to persist in staying 2     a     : to be concealed but capable of being discovered specif : to constitute a latent threat      b     : to lie hidden 3          : to read messages on an Internet discussion forum (as a newsgroup or chat room) without contributing — lurk•er n syn lurk, skulk, slink, sneak mean to behave so as to escape attention. lurk implies a lying in wait in a place of concealment and often suggests an evil intent 〈suspicious men lurking in alleyways〉. skulk suggests more strongly cowardice or fear or sinister intent 〈something skulking in the shadows〉. slink implies moving stealthily often merely to escape attention 〈slunk around the corner〉. sneak may add an implication of entering or leaving a place or evading a difficulty by furtive or underhanded methods 〈sneaked out early〉.Merriam-Webster, I. (2003). Merriam-Webster's collegiate dictionary. (Eleventh ed.). Springfield, Mass.: Merriam-Webster, Inc.Non taken, however, there are a lot of "commonly used word " that should not be used on This forum. Just my opinion.Thomas
Have we missed the purpose of the forum Thomas? I think so. No onw meant offense. As your own definition shows it is reading on the internet and not contributing. I think the Scriptures have something to say about this....."Great peace have they who love your law, and nothing will offend them".
Joe, I started out there in 82 and God said to "Get out of there " in Spring 83" It was particularly grievous experience there in class but ministry among fellow students was rewarding, Imagine this... student after watching a video of a demonized woman who other professors were calling a "prophetess" said "I did not feel right in my spirit" and the course professor said "you can't go by that" ... I recorded that session and years later when I attended CBN I played it for my professors there and without exception everyone said "those are demon tongues".. This is just one example that led up to my leaving. Curiously enough before I even got there the Lord said... "You are going there but not for the reason you think for when you get there you will find there are many that are not as strong as their leader and in fact they are shipwrecked in their faith"  When I heard that I said God how can that be as I am going to ORU?.    Well Joe the first day of class the professor said that if you read the Bible an hour a day you will go crazy !  Coming from Rock Church in Va Beach that is all I needed to hear and I went up after class and said " Dr I read the Bible more than an hour a day and I have friends that do and we are not crazy" His reply was "we are on a different dichotomy" and he walked away.  That was my first day in seminary at ORU. Soon after that I had a classmate who was a 32nd degree Mason who had a CVA and was in the City of Faith hospital and I went to see him and the Lord had me say... "Josh if Jesus Christ told you to get out of the Masons what would you do"  He replied to me "Wow, that is a hard question, I will really have to think about it." Later on in the course this same professor said that God had given to the church a wonderful gift for the counselors and when I heard what he said was the gift, I almost fell out of my chair.  Hypnotism... I could go on and on, but hopefully what I left in 83 is nothing like you experienced.Â
Ok! My last post on the subject! T0 All - use any word(s) you think fits. I am the one thats in the wrong place and reading the wrong forum. Thomas
Hey Thomas, we'll help you through this, if you stick around. Â Glad to have you on board. Â --or back on board soon, I hope.
I earned my undergraduate degree from ORU (and M.Div. from Fuller). Logos user since 1997.
Some people look to take offense no matter what you say or do. Everyone has bent over backwards to apologize. Forgiveness is a necessary quality for all. Go in peace, no one posting a reply to Thomas should feel bad in anyway!
Blessings to all in Christ Jesus!
Hi Thomas, I assure you that there was no intent to be degrading by using the term within the context. I often describe myself as one since I tend to read and learn more than post and help others. Even when I do know the answer, by the time I formulate my answer at least two or three have already posted!
I highly encourage you to continue using the forums. Using these forums has helped me (a layperson with basic education) understand the Logos software, directly enabling me to pursue God and my faith multiple times over than if I relied on myself to figure the softwware out. These folks are awesome in allotting their time here to help us!
Take a look at this blog and see how unselfish they are. The folks mentioned here are simply a small percentage of all who help. Love and Peace.
http://blog.logos.com/archives/2011/02/the_1_tool_for_getting_the_most_out_of_logos_bible_software_1.html
I agree, the people on this forum are very good people! Â I know this, because I have been "Lurking" around here for years with out posting. Â Thanks so much Forum members, you are all awesome!
Be bold... Peter was....
Our God has no fear!
Loving but firm...
Mike
Compared to Rosie, just about everyone is a lurker. Any number divided by infinity is 0.
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I see that indeed there are some users of Logos that are Charismatic/Pentecostal M.Div holders.
I am an AG pastor and have received my MATS and use Logos. I just downloaded 4. Â
I graduated from AGTS (Assemblies of God Theological Seminary) in 2001 with my M.Div (I also have an M.A. in Counseling from AGTS). I've used Logos 3 a lot more than Logos 4 though.
Matthew
