Can we beef up notes please?
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It wasn’t that long ago that I used to scribble notes in my
wide margin bible. I always appreciated having important thoughts, questions,
conclusions and references right there next to the passage in question. Flip
the page… all those relevant notes are still tracking along. It doesn’t take long to realize that the wide
margins in my bible don’t even come close to what is needed. So I began using
word documents. However, while I could now allow my notes to grow large and
complete without worrying about space restrictions, the one severely annoying
thing is that keeping track of those notes now becomes a chore in and of
itself; “Where did I consider and make a note regarding this issue or that?”
Having to spend all that time searching for certain references made in my
notes, or otherwise scrolling back and forth trying to keep my notes tracking
with my bible reading was inconvenient at best, though can be made to work.
So when I heard about Logos and the ability to link notes
with bible verses, hyperlinking, etc. I was super excited about the
possibilities! I had heard that we shouldn’t consider the notes in Logos as
similar to our word processors. But when I heard that, I was thinking that we
were being warned against expecting too much in the way of formatting. “Surely,
I can now write my notes to my heart’s content,” now, I thought. As I started
out, the principle of notes in Logos was like a dream! However, I soon began to
realize disappointment when the notes became slow to respond to scrolling,
typing, and any other form of user input. And I mean REALLY slow. Like, 'I just
finished typing the last word of the sentence, but the first word hasn’t shown
up in my notes yet,' kind of slow.
I grew concerned since my notes are a very important part of
my work (bible translation). I began to wonder if the notes would be
unstable and at risk of being lost if I pushed them too hard. Upon asking logos
support about this, they made it clear to me that yes, indeed my notes would be
at risk of being lost if I continued using them the way I’m trying to. Turns
out that the notes are just stored in a database which really limits note
taking capabilities. It also explains why notes become so slow to respond while
all the resources in Logos (which have much more data) respond quickly.
For now, I will have to switch back to using word docs. But
I dream of the day when I’ll actually be able to have all my notes scroll
simultaneously with my bible. I long for the convenience of returning to my
verse specific note with just a click as I try to remember what I learned
there, or otherwise had questions about. I wait with great anticipation for the
day when my notes will actually respond to my input (scrolling, typing, etc)
without bogging down. All these things aren’t mere conveniences for me, they’re
huge time savers. They keep distractions to a minimum when trying to maintain
and think through something I’m studying. They allow me to return to and defend
(or otherwise realize my wrong) with certain exegetical conclusions I’ve come
to when checking my translation work.
Logos, you have awesome software! I love it. But I really
think the notes need to be made more than just the equivalent of sticky notes
in your bible. I don’t think I’m the only one who would really be impressed by
something more beefy. We need something that we can count on to maintain our
data. We need something we can quickly reference later and even search. I hope
that the Logos software team can someday soon come up with a way to bring those
notes up to par with the rest of the awesome features of Logos4 software!
I’m not a programmer, so I may be barking up the wrong tree
here. But maybe, instead of notes being kept in a database file, they could
somehow be in a similar format as the rest of the logos resources.
Am I the only one, or are there others that want the same
here? Wouldn’t being able to keep ALL your detailed notes in Logos be awesome
and powerful?
Just in case my long rambling makes it hard to discern what
I’m really suggesting, here’s a line by line breakdown of problems I have with
notes.
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scrolling and other user input very slow
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clicking on note tag in bible does not take me
to actual note for that verse (even though it is specifically referenced to
that verse)
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Instability of notes when too much data being
stored – can’t go losing all our data now, can we?
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Looking at notes as equivalent of sticky notes
really takes that tool down several notches re its usefulness. Ought to be able
to have a note file grow to be huge and not worry about losing info, slowing
down, becoming unresponsive, etc.
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Though formatting is a lower priority, its
capability in notes could stand to be beefed up a bit and made more consistent.
Very often, my formatting changes get turned into something altogether
different upon exit and restart of the program.
Thanks Logos! You guys do rock! Great software overall! Far
above anything else out there.
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Geoff Husa said:
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scrolling and other user input very slow-
clicking on note tag in bible does not take me
to actual note for that verse (even though it is specifically referenced to
that verse)-
Instability of notes when too much data being
stored – can’t go losing all our data now, can we?-
Looking at notes as equivalent of sticky notes
really takes that tool down several notches re its usefulness. Ought to be able
to have a note file grow to be huge and not worry about losing info, slowing
down, becoming unresponsive, etc.-
Though formatting is a lower priority, its
capability in notes could stand to be beefed up a bit and made more consistent.
Very often, my formatting changes get turned into something altogether
different upon exit and restart of the program.Looking forward to Personal Book Builder (PBB), a missing feature yet to be implemented - hoping for Bible verse linking - dreaming of potential integration with notes.
Observation: since PBB uses native book format, anticipating support for large files. Potentially, PBB could have visual filters (like Logos native resources).
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Geoff, it's not a big fix, but I've found that if I turn off the colored boxes in the Bible (click the tri-circle visual filter button and uncheck the name of your note file(s)) while I am editing them the program is a lot more responsive and I don't have to wait 4 of 5 seconds after each word for it to catch up.
Prov. 15:23
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Geoff Husa said:
Am I the only one, or are there others that want the same here? Wouldn’t being able to keep ALL your detailed notes in Logos be awesome and powerful?
Preach it, bro ! Notes is the weak sister in Logos. I have been taking notes and linking them to verses for years. They haven't really made much progress since God engraved the two tablets.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Kevin Becker said:
Geoff, it's not a big fix, but I've found that if I turn off the colored boxes in the Bible (click the tri-circle visual filter button and uncheck the name of your note file(s)) while I am editing them the program is a lot more responsive and I don't have to wait 4 of 5 seconds after each word for it to catch up.
I have all of mine turned off except for my General Notes (a small file). It isn't after every word that I need to wait, but after ever 4-5 words.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Geoff Husa said:
Am I the only one, or are there others that want the same
here? Wouldn’t being able to keep ALL your detailed notes in Logos be awesome
and powerful?Many of us share your wishes - I, too, expected more in L4 rather than loosing capabilities I had in L3. Formating in the form of tables and charts is essential to my notetaking.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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At one point I had just one note file, the default General Notes file. I had hundreds of notes in it, with some that were 20-30 pages or longer. That note file, and Logos in general (I'm speaking of L3, which is the program I continue to use), became monstrously slow. I physically created 6 new files/folders (3 OT, 3 NT) and transferred the majority of my files to the new folders. The slowness issues mostly disappeared, but even now when I open the old General Notes file (I still have a few dozen notes in it, some large), I notice an immediate snail crawl in the program. I recommend spreading your notes across different files/folders.
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George Somsel said:Geoff Husa said:
Am I the only one, or are there others that want the same here? Wouldn’t being able to keep ALL your detailed notes in Logos be awesome and powerful?
Preach it, bro ! Notes is the weak sister in Logos. I have been taking notes and linking them to verses for years. They haven't really made much progress since God engraved the two tablets.
I agree with y'all (but I would not use the word sister because my sister is not weak!). As a matter of fact, I would not use the word progress because we have lost functionality from L3 to L4.
I have over 70 note files in L3 that takes 215Meg. I cannot live without my notes, and this is the main reason why I still use L3.
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I call for note reform! I dream of a day when Logos note organization functions like gmail labels!
I don't use notes much, because I feel like they're clunky and disconnected, and sometimes I just want to make a generic note on the page that I'm looking at (like I would on a page in my Bible) without me feeling like it has to fit into a "category" and be stored off in some detached, unorganized list. I would like to just click on the note icon, and have it pop up as a bubble, right there on the sheet that I'm looking at. And indeed, that is the only place that it is stored! (As far as I ,the user, am concerned)
If it happens to fit into a "category" of notes I can apply a label to it: "Notes on creation." If it happens to fit into multiple categories, I can apply multiple labels to it: "Notes on Creation," "The Sabbath," and later I can click on one of those label categories and it will still pull up every note associated with it...
There...I've tossed my pebble into the ocean :-)
Don't mean to complain though. Using Logos really is a blessing and I appreciate everything the Logos team has accomplished so far! Thank you guys!
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Jonathan,
I agree that we should be able to add some metadata to our notes. If we had a good UI and metadata for notes, we would not need items like a sermon-add in. All we would have to do is to tag the note as a sermon.
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Nicely put Geoff. I use and depend on notes extensively. I'd even be willing to buy a Note Add In that makes a book of notes. The problem is my notes are always being updated and changed so I'm not really sure a Note Add In would work. I think my only complaint (not that I'm one to complain) in L4 is the note system.
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I'm pounding the same old drum here, but L4's notes need to be like L3's notes AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE...and then some. But I'm still not altogether sure that there is going to be a move in that direction...much less any great notes revolution.
I was at the first Camp Logos for L4 in Tennessee and Bob said (if memory serves) that they had almost made the decision TO NOT INCLUDE NOTES IN L4!
I almost passed out. He went on to say that after some reconsideration, they went ahead and included them. I think some of the thinking that led them to possibly not having notes had to do with the "user feedback" they were getting. If people had enabled the "snoop" mode (my term [:P] ), then Logos could follow their usage patterns. Of the limited number of people who had enabled that option, very few actually used notes in any way. Of course, I specifically DIDN'T enable snoop-mode precisely because I have notes that I didn't feel comfortable "letting out". I think that was the case for most notes power users.
For that reason, Logos had a horribly skewed and inaccurate picture of how and how often notes were being used. Then, right after Bob finished speaking about the notes in L4, I noticed that my notes in L4 (which in L3 have the ability to pop-up in a window half as large as my screen) were limited to a 2.5x3 in. square...MAX. I was horrified. I went to Bob directly afterward and asked him about this change and he said that was by design, because some folks complained about the note pop-ups covering up the rest of the screen. My inward response was, "well, tell 'em to move the cursor so the pop-up goes away...don't CHANGE THE PROGRAM!" But what's done is done...and I got the impression it wasn't going to change.
The other thing I recall Bob saying was that as far as he was concerned, he wanted to keep notes as basic as possible. The main concern for him had to do with customer support. He felt that a full-functioned word processor (which is EXACTLY what I would like to have) would increase the amount of CS calls that Logos would receive, which would drive up costs for an aspect of the software that he felt wasn't the core of their purpose. He seemed pretty solid in his feelings on that point.
I know lots of people who attended that Camp said they had a great experience and learned a whole lot. The one thing I came away with was the feeling that as far as I was concerned, based on my usage patterns, L4 was a major stink bomb. I was literally in a full-blown depression. I was really hoping L4 would blow me away. It ended up blowing my hopes right out of the water.
That said, I have found certain things that L4 does better than L3, but not many. I use them both together and would hate to lose either program at this point. Mark Barnes says I'm not using L4 to its full advantage, and I'm sure that's true. But I do get some decent use out of it, and it's hard for me to see myself using it a whole lot more than I do now. It's notes suck...pardon my English.
I have heard people say that they don't ever use notes in Logos. To me, that's like hearing someone say, "I have a car, but I never use the keys." For me, the notes I create in Logos ARE VIRTUALLY THE ENTIRE PROGRAM. It is only a slight exaggeration for me to say that Logos is a note-taking program with some search capability. My notes go directly into my Bible and are there, instantly available with a simple hover of the cursor. I can give hours-long presentations using just my bible and the notes function in L3.
L4? Hah...forget it. Not only do I not see it happening, I think they would have to practically revamp the program to even get close. I think this is the BIGGEST flub in the Logos game plan. Bob's vision for Logos is usually tight, insightful, and foresightful. When it comes to notes, though...I just think the ball has been dropped.
IMO, notes should be like L3, but beefier and more powerful. Full-blown word processing? YES!! Pinable, scrollable notes? Yes. Finely adjustable font/point sizes? Yes, yes, yes. Graphics embedding? Yes.
More wp cs support calls? Maybe, possibly, probably...and so be it. I do think, however, that most people know how to use a word processor by this point, and as long as the wp isn't a cranky mess, there shouldn't be that many problems. Besides, I expect that most issues could be handled through the wiki and the forum. I would be more than willing to see Logos scale back its grand plans to take over the Cloud and add 1,000,000,000,000 more titles by the end of next week in order to get a rock solid word processor for power user note-taking. In fact, I'd even pay extra for it.
But I won't be holding my breath...
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David Paul said:
IMO, notes should be like L3, but beefier and more powerful. Full-blown word processing? YES!! Pinable, scrollable notes? Yes. Finely adjustable font/point sizes? Yes, yes, yes. Graphics embedding? Yes.
Amen ! Hallelujah ! Preach it, bro.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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George Somsel said:David Paul said:
IMO, notes should be like L3, but beefier and more powerful. Full-blown word processing? YES!! Pinable, scrollable notes? Yes. Finely adjustable font/point sizes? Yes, yes, yes. Graphics embedding? Yes.
Amen ! Hallelujah ! Preach it, bro.
I cannot wait for notes to be useful, but I am not holding my breath.
Especially, when I read Bob's post as it relates to WPF: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/4318/35672.aspx#35672 (it is Microsoft's platform for the future), and then I have been reading posts like http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/09/microsoft_html_5/ concerning the future of WPF ("Right now there's a faction war inside Microsoft over HTML5 vs Silverlight. oh and WPF is dead.. i mean..it kind of was..but now.. funeral"). While I believe the last statement needs to be taken with a grain of salt, there has been so much talk about WPF & its future that I do not believe it will not come close to the lifespan that Microsoft predicted.
Therefore, why put the resources into a platform that has not lived up to expectations and will not be around?
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David Paul said:
IMO, notes should be like L3, but beefier and more powerful. Full-blown word processing? YES!! Pinable, scrollable notes? Yes. Finely adjustable font/point sizes? Yes, yes, yes. Graphics embedding? Yes.
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One day they are going to have to pay attention to the outcry... I just hope I don't have to wait for L5...
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In Logos 4 we have the best educational system on the market! The ability to do research and discover information is out of this world!!!
However, the it is crazy to own the best and fastest race car in the world and not supply it with the best wheels and tires in the world. It is the tires and wheels that make the contact in the real world to make that race car go!
The notes program is the real contact between Logos and it's users, making all that research information come alive and useful to the researcher. It helps the researcher to form the things he has learned in a way that it becomes the most useful to him and others.
Logos has dropped the ball in this area and until they change the notes it will still be holding us back from using Logos to the systems fullest possible usefulness! Too bad! All this research and still no easy way to share it.
If you do not want to make the notes more powerful, then you do not understand the full usefulness that your program could have. The problem is not the notes it is you! When I first started using Logos product I would have never believed I would have ever said that! It was your dream and vision that has led me to grow in my dream of what bible study could be, I was inspired by your product! I saw how this product could change not only my life but the level at which we can learn and educate ourselves, but now I am afraid you don't understand how great your vision could be by changing this one area. I am sad, but I love your product and wish you the best, your vision has changed my life and because of Logos I am working on my THD!
In Christ,
Jim VanSchoonhoven
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Jim VanSchoonhoven said:
In Logos 4 we have the best educational system on the market! The ability to do research and discover information is out of this world!!!
However, the it is crazy to own the best and fastest race car in the world and not supply it with the best wheels and tires in the world. It is the tires and wheels that make the contact in the real world to make that race car go!
The notes program is the real contact between Logos and it's users, making all that research information come alive and useful to the researcher. It helps the researcher to form the things he has learned in a way that it becomes the most useful to him and others.
Logos has dropped the ball in this area and until they change the notes it will still be holding us back from using Logos to the systems fullest possible usefulness! Too bad! All this research and still no easy way to share it.
If you do not want to make the notes more powerful, then you do not understand the full usefulness that your program could have. The problem is not the notes it is you! When I first started using Logos product I would have never believed I would have ever said that! It was your dream and vision that has led me to grow in my dream of what bible study could be, I was inspired by your product! I saw how this product could change not only my life but the level at which we can learn and educate ourselves, but now I am afraid you don't understand how great your vision could be by changing this one area. I am sad, but I love your product and wish you the best, your vision has changed my life and because of Logos I am working on my THD!
In Christ,
Jim VanSchoonhoven
Vroom, vroom ... Preach it.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Jim VanSchoonhoven said:
Logos has dropped the ball in this area and until they change the notes it will still be holding us back from using Logos to the systems fullest possible usefulness! (...)
If you do not want to make the notes more powerful, then you do not understand the full usefulness that your program could have.
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it's pretty much a war we can't win, folks. We might get a skirmish or two. There is a sizable voice for better notes, but not enough, apparently, to convince Bob and Logos to invest the needed resources and alter their business model to achieve it.
I'd like at least greater copy/paste ability (already improved, but better alignment with things like OneNote) and perhaps even the ability to open a Word or OneNote window within L4, similar to how you can browse the internet from within MindManager software.
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Dan DeVilder said:
it's pretty much a war we can't win, folks. We might get a skirmish or two. There is a sizable voice for better notes, but not enough, apparently, to convince Bob and Logos to invest the needed resources and alter their business model to achieve it.
You're a defeatest. I intend to win whether Bob wants to or not.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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Dan DeVilder said:
I'd like at least greater copy/paste ability (already improved, but better alignment with things like OneNote) and perhaps even the ability to open a Word or OneNote window within L4, similar to how you can browse the internet from within MindManager software.
All these things are useless to me. I don't write sermons; I write notes. The note icon (and the ability to search) is what matters. Without a direct link from the text to the note, writing something down becomes nothing but a meaningless waste of time. I wouldn't even know I had it.
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fgh said:Dan DeVilder said:
I'd like at least greater copy/paste ability (already improved, but better alignment with things like OneNote) and perhaps even the ability to open a Word or OneNote window within L4, similar to how you can browse the internet from within MindManager software.
All these things are useless to me. I don't write sermons; I write notes. The note icon (and the ability to search) is what matters. Without a direct link from the text to the note, writing something down becomes nothing but a meaningless waste of time. I wouldn't even know I had it.
I agree, I need to link everything back to scripture. Keeping things in MS Word or OneNote just will not work for me, and I do write sermons.
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fgh said:
Without a direct link from the text to the note, writing something down becomes nothing but a meaningless waste of time.
Make that texts - plural in support of inter-textual and lectionary comments.[Y]
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George Somsel said:
You're a defeatest. I intend to win whether Bob wants to or not.
u continue to be my role model . . .
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Unfortunately, although many gripe about notes, we aren't putting our votes in about it. The top three requests in logos.uservoice have more than 500 votes. As for notes:
At 355 votes (ranked 8th) is allowing pictures in notes
At 57 votes (ranked 33th) is allowing tables and attachments in notes
At 45 votes (ranked 37th) is cross-reference note builder
At 21 votes (ranked 54th) is giving us back the formatting we had in L3
These are not winning numbers. We need placards:
We need votes:
We need a plan:
So rally the troops. Flood Bob's email. Make those skype calls. Get out the votes.
GO NOTES GO NOTES GO NOTES GO NOTES
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MJ. Smith said:
Unfortunately, although many gripe about notes, we aren't putting our votes in about it. The top three requests in logos.uservoice have more than 500 votes. As for notes:
At 355 votes (ranked 8th) is allowing pictures in notes
At 57 votes (ranked 33th) is allowing tables and attachments in notes
At 45 votes (ranked 37th) is cross-reference note builder
At 21 votes (ranked 54th) is giving us back the formatting we had in L3
These are not winning numbers. We need placards:
Yea, NOTES
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george
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MJ. Smith said:
Unfortunately, although many gripe about notes, we aren't putting our votes in about it.
I'd say that that's because the notes suggestions on Uservoice are so meagre and so split up that it feels next to meaningless to vote for them (even if, against all odds, one has any votes left to do it with). Someone write a good comprehensive suggestion about how to improve notes and I'll gladly give it three votes (and more if I could)! I'm not, however, going to 'waste' votes on pictures and tables, which I haven't felt any need for yet. My number one note priority would be to get all those things you PC users already have (you have no idea how much we're still missing!), together with some other small things of the same kind. Number two would be cross referencing (where I already do have some votes, I believe). Number three would be a complete reworking of Notes (and possibly Clippings) into something truly useful.
Tomorrow (which has now become today, I guess) is Ash Wednesday and I hope to have discipline enough to stay away from here, but how about using this thread to try to reach some kind of consensus on what we really want the note function to be like, and then putting that on Uservoice? If we then search the forums for old note threads, and attach links to the new suggestion, asking everyone to move their note votes there -- and also add comments with that content to the present suggestions -- we should be able to reach a good number of people who are subscribed to those old threads and thus raise a good number of votes for it.
And, btw, I believe there are even more note related suggestions on Uservoice if you look some more.
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fgh said:
And, btw, I believe there are even more note related suggestions on Uservoice if you look some more.
Yes, there are - and some are more comprehensive. I wasn't prepared to count out their ranking.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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fgh said:MJ. Smith said:
Unfortunately, although many gripe about notes, we aren't putting our votes in about it.
I'd say that that's because the notes suggestions on Uservoice are so meagre and so split up that it feels next to meaningless to vote for them (even if, against all odds, one has any votes left to do it with). Someone write a good comprehensive suggestion about how to improve notes and I'll gladly give it three votes (and more if I could)! I'm not, however, going to 'waste' votes on pictures and tables, which I haven't felt any need for yet. My number one note priority would be to get all those things you PC users already have (you have no idea how much we're still missing!), together with some other small things of the same kind. Number two would be cross referencing (where I already do have some votes, I believe). Number three would be a complete reworking of Notes (and possibly Clippings) into something truly useful.
Tomorrow (which has now become today, I guess) is Ash Wednesday and I hope to have discipline enough to stay away from here, but how about using this thread to try to reach some kind of consensus on what we really want the note function to be like, and then putting that on Uservoice? If we then search the forums for old note threads, and attach links to the new suggestion, asking everyone to move their note votes there -- and also add comments with that content to the present suggestions -- we should be able to reach a good number of people who are subscribed to those old threads and thus raise a good number of votes for it.
And, btw, I believe there are even more note related suggestions on Uservoice if you look some more.
Hi FGH,
There was a more general note request that listed formatting, hyper-linking, drag & drop, and a Table of Contents, and Logos marked it as complete stating that the request was too general, and they wanted more specific requests. This is when several note file requests came out.
I do not believe that we will come to a consensus on what we want in the note functions. Personally, my top two requests for notes are pictures, tables, and attachments. My third request for notes is #114 (Add a Table of Contents pane to notes windows), and it has eight votes: http://logos.uservoice.com/forums/42823-logos-bible-software-4/suggestions/1559113-add-a-table-of-contents-pane-to-notes-windows?ref=title
If we want to consolidate the note requests, I am willing to give it a try
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tom collinge said:
If we want to consolidate the note requests, I am willing to give it a try
I've started a thread to see what sort of consensus we can reach. My personal requirements place tables and links to multiple passages at the top ... with TOC and default color of the note marker at the file level also high.
There are some duplicate requests that could be consolidated to increase the votes - and some of the requests are actually more global than notes. We'll see what comes out. I'm not going to hazard a guess.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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