So they have released the details of the books and their divisions.
Is anyone thinking there needs to be some strategy to it this time round?
Yes, I agree it would be good to be more strategic this time. One important factor to consider when voting is the price. A 75% discount on a $70 book is a lot more than the same discount on a $13 book (about $42). While there are many other factors to consider besides price, all things being equal it's better to vote for a more expensive book.
Below, I've listed the books in the four divisions according to price (sorry, it's rather lengthy and it doesn't have hyperlinks). Hopefully, it will be helpful when considering how to vote.
Division 1: New Testament
$73.95
A Grammar of New Testament Greek, Vol. 1: Prolegomena
$60.00
New Testament Interpretation and Methods
$55.00
The Acts of the Apostles: A Socio-Rhetorical Commentary
$41.95
Ethics and the New Testament
$39.95
Romans: The MacArthur New Testament Commentary
$36.75
A Critical and Doctrinal Commentary Upon the Epistle of St. Paul to the Romans
$35.00
The Interpretation of St. Mark’s Gospel
$34.95
Black’s New Testament Commentary: First and Second Epistles to the Thessalonians
Black’s New Testament Commentary: The First Epistle to the Corinthians
The Jewish New Testament Commentary
$34.75
A Commentary on the Epistle to the Ephesians
$29.99
Cornerstone Biblical Commentary: Romans, Galatians
$24.00
Reading John
$20.00
The IVP New Testament Commentary Series: Galatians
$19.99
Gospel of God: An Exposition of Romans
$14.95
The Historical Jesus: Ancient Evidence for the Life of Christ
Division 2: Old Testament
$72.00
The Making of the Pentateuch: A Methodological Study
Studies In Biblical Interpretation
$52.50
An Introduction to Biblical Hebrew Syntax
$49.95
The Theme of the Pentateuch
The Five Books of Moses
$39.50
Linguistics and Biblical Hebrew
$38.00
Introduction to the Old Testament
The JPS Bible Commentary: Ecclesiastes
The JPS Bible Commentary: Jonah
Moses: Heroic Man, Man of God
$32.95
The Septuagint
$30.00
Exploring the Old Testament, vol. 3: The Psalms and Wisdom Literature
$27.99
Numbers: God’s Presence in the Wilderness
$27.00
Vital Old Testament Issues: Examining Textual and Topical Questions
$23.99
SPCK Old Testament Introduction: Theology of the Old Testament
$21.99
The New American Commentary: Deuteronomy
Division 3: Practical
$44.95
Dictionary of Christianity in America
$39.99
Topical Reader—Volumes 1 & 2
$34.00
Toward the Twenty-First Century in Christian Mission
Laying the Foundation: Achieving Christian Maturity
$21.75
The New Citizenship: The Christian Facing a New World Order
Heretics
Sin, the Savior, and Salvation: The Theology of Everlasting Life
$19.95
Disciplines of a Godly Man
What Jesus Demands from the World
$17.95
Contending for Our All
God Is the Gospel: Meditations on God’s Love as the Gift of Himself
$15.95
I Don’t Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist
$14.99
The Practice of the Presence of God
Distinguishing Traits of Christian Character
The Pillars of Christian Character
$12.95
The Genesis Factor
Division 4: Theology
Scripture, Tradition and Reason: A Study in the Criteria of Christian Doctrine
$54.00
Divine Freedom and the Doctrine of the Immanent Trinity: In Dialogue with Karl Barth and Contemporary Theology
$50.00
Systematic Theology
The Biblical Foundations of Christian Worship (Library of Christian Worship: Volume 1)
The Promise of Trinitarian Theology
Ground and Grammar of Theology
$36.00
Baptism in the New Testament
$29.95
Foundations of Systematic Theology
$28.99
The Atonement
$25.75
Writings of Saint Francis of Assisi
Regarding Karl Barth
$22.99
The Trinity
$22.00
The Dark Night of the Soul
God’s Indwelling Presence: The Holy Spirit in the Old and New Testaments
$18.99
Handbook of Evangelical Theology: A Historical, Biblical, and Contemporary Survey and Review
Beyond the Bounds
I briefly looked through the list, and would say that I will prioritize resources that I know I will end up buying individually eventually. This means (1) resources that aren't available as part of a set and (2) that aren't available free as public domain books or similar. After that, I definitely will consider price.
update: I checked. The expensive titles are selected out of sets. This will take some planning.
I have uploaded an excel spreadsheet with links and stuff on another thread.
Looks like we miss Ryan Burns already, nothing appeals tome.
The expensive titles are selected out of sets. This will take some planning.
Agreed. I am hoping we can be more collaborative about it this time round, that said, it still depends on who wants / needs what, and what they already own.
While there are many other factors to consider besides price, all things being equal it's better to vote for a more expensive book. Below, I've listed the books ......Hopefully, it will be helpful...
While there are many other factors to consider besides price, all things being equal it's better to vote for a more expensive book.
Below, I've listed the books ......Hopefully, it will be helpful...
Great job...thanks! [Y]
The standout for me is undoubtedly Witherington's commentary on Acts.
It's a reasonably high price (55USD) and Carson says of it in his NT Commentary Survey: "[it] is very good indeed: his 'socio-rhetorical' approach (which in this volume tends to mean no more than that the author is sensitive both to the world of the first century and to the structure of the text) is particularly suited to this sort of biblical book."
So let's all vote Ben Witherington III in the NT section, please!
How's that for strategy?
nothing appeals tome
My feelings as well. I'll be able to sit this one out. Picked up quite a few last year, so can't complain.
A somewhat disappointing March Madness lineup - from my perspective. No big favorite here as in the past. Nothing of the quality of I. Howard Marshal's Pastoral Epistles commentary in the ICC, which was a big favorite in Logos March Madness last year. (Or was it the year before?)
Most of the books that would interest me - such as Witherington's commentary on Acts - I already have bought. Probably will sit this one out.
Will just vote to advance whatever people seem to want - whether I have it or not.
… nothing appeals to me.
Nor to me. It looks like I'll have a cheap (UK usage meaning "low cost") month this year, unlike in the past. [:S]
Maybe you peeps who see nothing worth voting for would at least like to vote up Witherington on Acts to make it cheaper for everyone else as a huge favour!!![;)][^o)]
… nothing appeals to me. Nor to me. It looks like I'll have a cheap (UK usage meaning "low cost") month this year, unlike in the past.
Nor to me. It looks like I'll have a cheap (UK usage meaning "low cost") month this year, unlike in the past.
Glad to see that I am not alone - I just added the ECC to my cart, that will be my "March Madness", especially if my wife finds out.[:O]
...nothing appeals to me.
Same here.
I was fortunate enough to pick up the Master Collection at Christmas which includes most of the stuff on sale here. I guess this just illustrates what a great deal the Master Collection was...
You could make a purchase for a poor fellow Mac user. [:D]
Unfortunately, I already own everything I that might interest me except Witherington's commentary on Acts. Yesterday, I was able to heckle a house full of Tar Heel fans as their team fell before Duke, but Logos' March Madness will probably not be as much fun. [8-|]
I'm voting for Promise of Trinitarian Theology
Maybe you peeps who see nothing worth voting for would at least like to vote up Witherington on Acts to make it cheaper for everyone else as a huge favour!!!
I agree with this. If nothing is really interesting help people who have some interests in Witherington's Acts Commentary (division 1) and Waltke & O'Connor's Introduction to Hebrew Syntax (in this order). I think that would indeed be a good strategy. Thanks if you would help!
I will be happy to cast a vote for Witherington's Acts for you guys each round it is available.
[ip] [Y]
Much appreciated!
Me neither, but I'm also trying to cut back on my book spending this year.
nothing appeals tome My feelings as well. I'll be able to sit this one out. Picked up quite a few last year, so can't complain.
Perhaps they should have offered an Akkadian lexicon. [:D] [6]
Okay, you can count me in to vote for Witherington's Acts for those who want it.
It is a great commentary, and Witherington teaches at my seminary, so I am rooting for the home team.
Actually, that set of commenataries is such a bargain that I couldn't resist the whole set. Glad I bought them. Acts is $55, but the whole set of 8 volumes is only $149. If you could swing it financially, that is a deal. However, the Acts volume is the plum of that pie.
I expected to be disappointed that, once again, there were no Catholic or Jewish resources in the sale, but this time there was actually quite a few of them. And the academic side is quite well represented as well. Not just the normal Evangelical stuff I'd never even consider. Apart from the total lack of Church History, this could have been a great list!
So, why am I still not happy? Because more than two thirds of these books have already been on sale within the last few months. Yes, 44 out of these 64 titles could be had at 50% during the Christmas sale! Why on earth would I or anyone now pay 75-55% for a book we could have had for 50% (or less!) three months ago? Only those who were blind, broke or not yet using Logos at Christmas, I would imagine, and that, presumably, is a minority of the user base.
I was hoping they would use March Madness to give us a chance to complete the incomplete collections we got then, but they seem more intent on doing the opposite. Why Chesterton's Heretics, when Orthodoxy was the one missing at Christmas? Why JPS Ecclesiastes and Jonah, when Deuteronomy is the one we lack? (I was really hoping for Deuteronomy!) Why St Frances and St John of the Cross, instead of Sts Teresa and Thérèse? Why The Five Books of Moses, rather than the JPS Tanach? Why Black's, "Reading" and IVP, and not ICC? I find this really disappointing. As a non-Evangelical, I expect to find the majority of the books uninteresting, but as a new customer, I don't expect to find the majority of the books already in my Library!
And it's not the first time, either. The Twitter sale also included lots of titles from Christmas and the 12 Days. Why have the same books on sale over and over again? Why not change to new ones? They'd certainly sell more!
For those who are interested, here is the list of books that were not on sale during Christmas. I suggest we concentrate our votes on them. People wanting the other 44 have already had their chance.
Personally, I want The Jewish NT Commentary, and might consider the NT Greek, Acts and several of the OT ones at a low enough price. Support votes appreciated!
My strategy is to use my votes in the two divisions I don't care about (Practical and Theology) to move forward the weakest resources possible in those two divisions. That way the NT and OT divisions will have the strongest titles when we get to the final 4. I plan to vote at the last possilbe moment in the Practical and Theology divisions to see if there are any weak titles in those divisons still in the running. Hopefully, my vote will help push those weak titles over the top in the early rounds, insuring that the Final will be between the OT and NT.
Since I don't intend buying any title this time round, I feel that it is a bit unfair of me to vote.
Could we do it in reverse by selling our votes. This way we could build our libraries and still not buy anything from March Madness.[:)]
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