Suggestion: Islamic Studies Bundle/Collection
I would love to see an Islamic Studies package.
I am a seminary student pursuing an M. A. in Islamic Studies. I am also a Logos user.
I would buy an Islamic Studies bundle/collection and I would promote it in my program.
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Could you suggest some books that would be appropriate? Are some already available in Logos?
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Do you mean in the original Arabic or translations?
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Ty Kitchens said:
I would love to see an Islamic Studies package.
I am a seminary student pursuing an M. A. in Islamic Studies. I am also a Logos user.
I would buy an Islamic Studies bundle/collection and I would promote it in my program.I love the idea and I believe it will be come increasingly critical globally as well as in the USA.
There are at present only a few offerings which could comprise such a package.
- The Qur'an (Arabic) - http://www.logos.com/product/2571/the-quran
- And perhaps: Arabic Bible - http://www.logos.com/product/1828/arabic-bible
- The Qur'an (English) - http://www.logos.com/product/2570/the-quran
- Biblical Counseling Keys on Islam - http://www.logos.com/product/9293/biblical-counseling-keys-on-islam
- Islam and the Bible: Why Two Faiths Collide - http://www.logos.com/product/6663/islam-and-the-bible-why-two-faiths-collide
- Zondervan World Religions and Cults Collection (8 vols.) - Logos Bible Software http://www.logos.com/product/8184/zondervan-world-religions-and-cults-collection
- The Islamic Invasion
- Winning the War Against Radical Islam
- The Journal of Biblical Apologetics Volumes 1-9 (9 vols.)
What would you suggest in addition?
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Edit: Eliminated pointless discussion.
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Due to the way some bundles won't break up at the moment, the current cost of the above is over $500, I'm sure an Islamic specific package would be much lower given the current offerings.
In fact I've forwarded that list and a link to this thread to suggest@logos.com
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Well, I'm writing in English. So I would personally benefit from English books and translations of books that were written in Arabic (or any other language). If this bundle included the Qur'an and Hadith, it would not be inappropriate for them to remain in Arabic. But there are plenty of modern Islamic studies reference texts written in English.
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Suggestion: Islamic Studies Bundle/Collection - Logos Bible Software Forums http://community.logos.com/forums/t/31498.aspx
Would it be out of line for me to ask which Seminary? I think finding a posting of the general curriculum might help me get a better grasp of what else might be out there.Ty Kitchens said:I am a seminary student pursuing an M. A. in Islamic Studies
I dissagree Ben. :-) Your question was a worthy contribution.Ben said:Eliminated pointless discussion
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Ty Kitchens said:
But there are plenty of modern Islamic studies reference texts written in English.
Yes. Do you have any particular ones in mind?
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Ty Kitchens said:
If this bundle included the Qur'an and Hadith, it would not be inappropriate for them to remain in Arabic.
I would purchase such a product provided Wehr Cowan or Lane are also included. I would purchase Wehr Cowan and/or Lane seperately as well.
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Todd Phillips said:
Yes. Do you have any particular ones in mind?
Well, not really. I could take a swing at it. But, I'm not exactly qualified to suggest something.
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Thomas Black said:
In fact I've forwarded that list and a link to this thread to suggest@logos.com
Thank you for your help, Sir.
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Ty Kitchens said:Todd Phillips said:
Yes. Do you have any particular ones in mind?
Well, not really. I could take a swing at it. But, I'm not exactly qualified to suggest something.
I disagree completely. No matter where you are in your course of study...
I believe this makes you a fair bit better off than me to make a suggestion of resources. If nothing else, comb the bibliographies from your current range of Syllabi.Ty Kitchens said:I am a seminary student pursuing an M. A. in Islamic Studies. I am also a Logos user.
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Thomas Black said:Ty Kitchens said:Todd Phillips said:
Yes. Do you have any particular ones in mind?
Well, not really. I could take a swing at it. But, I'm not exactly qualified to suggest something.
I disagree completely. No matter where you are in your course of study...
I believe this makes you a fair bit better off than me to make a suggestion of resources. If nothing else, comb the bibliographies from your current range of Syllabi.Ty Kitchens said:I am a seminary student pursuing an M. A. in Islamic Studies. I am also a Logos user.
Here are some texts that I have encountered so far or that have been recommended to me in my study:
Goldschmidt, Arthur Jr. and Lawrence Davidson. A Concise History of the Middle East. Ninth edition. Boulder, Co: Westview Press, 2009.
Nydell, Margaret K. Omar. Understanding Arabs, 3rd Edition. Intercultural Press, 2002.
Lindsay, James E. Daily Life in the Medieval Islamic World. Indianapolis: Hackett Publishing Company, 2008.
Gordon, Matthew. The Rise of Islam. Indianapolis: Hackett Publishing Company, 2008.
Mallouhi, Christine. Miniskirts, Mothers and Muslims: A Christian Woman in a Muslim Land. Monarch Books, 2004.
Maalouf, Amin. The Crusades through Arab Eyes. New York: Schocken, 1989.
Maalouf, Tony. Arabs in the Shadow of Israel: The Unfolding of God’s Prophetic Plan for Ishmael’s Line. Grand Rapids: Kregel Publications, 2003.
St.Clair-Tisdall, Rev. W. The Sources of Islam
Gilchrist, John, The Codification of the Qur’an Text
Shahid, Samuel, The Last Trumpet
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Thomas Black said:Ty Kitchens said:Todd Phillips said:
Yes. Do you have any particular ones in mind?
Well, not really. I could take a swing at it. But, I'm not exactly qualified to suggest something.
I disagree completely. No matter where you are in your course of study...
I believe this makes you a fair bit better off than me to make a suggestion of resources. If nothing else, comb the bibliographies from your current range of Syllabi.Ty Kitchens said:I am a seminary student pursuing an M. A. in Islamic Studies. I am also a Logos user.
Also:
Bell,
Richard, and Gunning lectures. [from old catalog]. The Origin of Islam in
Its Christian Environment; the Gunning Lectures, Edinburgh University, 1925. London,: Macmillan and co., limited, 1926.Boer, T. J.
de, and Edward R. Jones. The History of Philosophy in Islam. London: Luzac, 1903.O'Leary, De
Lacy. How Greek Science Passed to the Arabs.
London ; New York: K. Paul ; Distributed by Columbia University Press, 2001.O'Leary, De
Lacy. Arabic Thought and Its Place in History. Mineola, N.Y.: Dover Publications, 2003.Qadir, C. A. Philosophy
and Science in the Islamic World. London ;
New York: Routledge, 1990.Thomas,
David. Christian Doctrines in Islamic Theology History of Christian-Muslim Relations,. Leiden ; Boston: Brill, 2008.
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That's a good respectable list. The problem as I see it is that neither Logos nor its normal market has gone in this direction at all, meaning you'd end up with a package that would include material most Muslims and many Islamic scholars would object to, i.e. Christian pastoral/polemic material that pertains to Islam.
I'd love to see a tagged Qur'an and some commentaries and lexical resources, perhaps a few of the basic histories, etc. But don't hold your breath.
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Ben said:
That's a good respectable list. The problem as I see it is that neither Logos nor its normal market has gone in this direction at all, meaning you'd end up with a package that would include material most Muslims and many Islamic scholars would object to, i.e. Christian pastoral/polemic material that pertains to Islam.
I'd love to see a tagged Qur'an and some commentaries and lexical resources, perhaps a few of the basic histories, etc. But don't hold your breath.
Right on. Islamic Studies could be huge undertaking, if Logos wanted to do it. And I think in the future it may be more practical for them to do so.
But even if they simply offered some reference books and "Christian perspectives" or whatever they already have available in a bundle, that would be cool.0 -
I can't imagine an Islamic collection with Annemarie Schimmel, Frithjof Schuon, and A. J. Arberry - although I fear knowing them dates my college years.
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Ben said:
I'd love to see a tagged Qur'an and some commentaries and lexical resources
[Y] Yep Arabic lexicons are good for comparative semitic work. Lane and Wehr-Cowan are often referenced in HALOT. The Hadith would be a nice bonus.
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Lane now available on Perseus:
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2002.02.0015
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David Knoll said:
Lane now available on Perseus:
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2002.02.0015
And in Logos (Arabic Collection)
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I'm bumping this because the Islamic Studies Collection is almost over the top. Since it is after noon on Wednesday (Pacific Time) we would have a longer period to get the price down (although $30 is an outrageous deal for 34 volumes!). Here's the link:
https://www.logos.com/product/16300/islamic-studies-collection
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Oldnewbie said:
I'm bumping this because the Islamic Studies Collection is almost over the top. Since it is after noon on Wednesday (Pacific Time) we would have a longer period to get the price down (although $30 is an outrageous deal for 34 volumes!). Here's the link:
https://www.logos.com/product/16300/islamic-studies-collection
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