Biblical Languages - Greek

Have you checked out Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew With Logos Bible Software? That would probably be the best starting point, if you can afford it.

I am looking for some advice on making progress on Greek Language Studies.

I am currently studying the book Romans.

I have the Logos 4 Leaders Bundle.

I am willing to put in considerable time and money into making some progress on language front and will be studying from home.

I feel comfortable using the Logos Reverse interlinear and am using it currently to augment a commentary that references the Greek words and Grammer. I am getting some insight but want to proceed much further.

1. What books could you recommend?

2. What video tutorials could your reccomend?

3. What additional Logos ressources shoud I purchase to faciliate learning?

Thanks

 

Peace and every Blessing, Larry!                              *smile*               Your goals are very "Good!" indeed!

             Read your post, then looked up the Logos 4 Leaders Bundle.  Actually, I was pleasantly surprised as to how much Greek Language Study one could do with the Leaders Bundle.

                                 However, (and that "however" costs money)    .............    I think you have to move up one or two or even three bundles to do really good Greek Language Studies.              Just my humble opinion since I have a larger bundle that does everything I want it to; and I feel my studies would be hampered to just have the Leaders Bundle.

                Some of the specific items that other posters might want to offer here in this post  to you as an idea now are already included in the larger bundles.

                          Perhaps you can plan ahead -- at your own pace -- to upgrade your bundle.

http://www.logos.com/comparison

Let me strongly recommend two resources, both by Dave Black from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary.

1. 
   his book, "Learn to Read NT Greek" is available in Logos. 
   
2. 
   the DVD series of his class available here: http://daveblackonline.com/greek_dvds_now_available.htm .
   

Dr. Black taught through his beginning grammar at his local church a couple of years ago, and I was privileged to go through it. He takes  a strong linguistic approach as opposed to just memorizing paradigms.  You must memorize paradigms, certainly, but his linguistic approach makes you forget that you are memorizing anything. It just starts to feel natural.

While in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, he videotaped his lectures. They are *identical* to the class I took -- he's been doing this for over 34 years, so he's got it down solid  On top of that, he welcomes questions via email.

I really can't stress enough how much I enjoyed learning Greek from Dr. Black. I wish I had a copy of the DVDs myself to refresh.

1. What books could you recommend?

2. What video tutorials could your reccomend?

3. What additional Logos ressources shoud I purchase to faciliate learning?

Looking at Logos comparison page http://www.logos.com/comparison noticed several Logos 4 features need Original Languages or higher packages (list near bottom of page).  Also, Original Languages bundles includes many useful Greek resources (along with Hebrew and Aramaic).

Cascadia syntax graphs need Scholar's Silver or higher.  Scholar's Gold includes United Bible Societies (UBS) handbooks, wiki has resource  reviews: UBS New Testament Handbook Series and UBS Old Testament Handbook Series (offers translation insights about what is important in passage for communication across cultures).  Scholar's Platinum includes Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research

Wiki Extended Tips for Highlighting and Visual Filters page has Examples of visual filters section with Logos Greek Morphology visual filters so can highlight words based on grammatical usage that combine Learn to Use Biblical Greek and Hebrew With Logos Bible Software? visual filter ideas (from many Greek videos).

Another Logos resource bundle to consider is Lexham Discourse Greek New Testament  Discourse grammar provides more insights about connective word usage (e.g. kai).  Introducing New Testament Discourse Grammar: Video Series is a pre-publication currently under development; can watch 5 preview videos (1st wife is insightful).

Keep Smiling [:)]

If you want to learn Greek, I'd strongly recommend Bill Mounce's resources (including video) at www.teknia.com - they have samples so you can try before you buy.

In case it's not clear already, there are two parts to your quest:

1. Learning Greek
2. Learning how to use your Greek to study the Bible better

In Bible college, you tend to spend a long time on (1), and only move onto (2) in the second year. If you're self-learning, it's best to do (1) and (2) together, if only for motivational purposes.

Bill Mouce's basic stuff is better at (1) than (2). The Logos videos are much better at (2) than (1).

You don't need the expensive Logos upgrades to do (1), but you will definately benefit from them in doing (2).

Since people are already mentioning sites outside of Logos, don't miss that there are several free Greek and Hebrew courses on iTunes[U ].

Also, I see that you are studying Romans. I wouldn't call that a text for a beginner. John's Greek is the easiest; Paul's and Luke's the most advanced.