How to teach Logos 4

On May 4 - 5 I will be teaching L4 to a number of persons who have little experience with the software. This will take place over a day and a half. Some have gone through Morris seminar as I did recently, and others have not. Some used Libronix (though not extensively) and others hardly at all.

So, here is the question: What would you recommend in helping them to get their hands around the software.

Here is what I have come up with so far:

1. Learn the options available in the right click menu for different resources.

2. Learn the options available in the panel menu.

3. The fundamentals of basic and Bible search.

4. The fundamentals of building collections.

5. Using the forum and wiki to get help.

6. Watching the training videos.

7. Learning the home page and customizing it.

8. Installing updates.

9. Learning their accounts.

10. Community pricing and Prepub.

11. Notes and clippings

12. Bible Study Guides

13. Biblical people, places and things

14. Clippings, notes, handouts, reading plans, prayer lists.

15. Information

16. Power Lookup

17. Shortcut bar and command box

This list is not in any particular order

What are the fundamentals that you think must be taught? The libraries owned range from Leaders to Platinum.

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Robert Pavich

I'm no expert but I'd say....the most important thing is WHAT they are going to do with it...i.e...."...I realize that I can right click and find the lemma but what's a lemma and why do I care?"

You get the idea...most people that I've come across have a much different idea of what it is to study the bible....and having all of these tools at your finger tips changes things a bit....it gives you the option to do a proper bible study....something that just having a paper bible can't do....

Mark Barnes

Lyndon,

Great to see you're doing this. I'm sure everyone will find it very helpful.

Everyone's got their own views on how to teach, so I don't expect you to teach Logos in the same way I would. I know you haven't listed things in order, but I think the order is one of the most important things. I'd certainly want to start with the tools Logos has created for beginners such as the 'Go' box, the Guides and Biblical P/P/T. I tried to do my videos in a logical order. As they stand at the moment, the videos are roughly what I'd try teach in a single day to beginners.

In terms of thinking of things you've missed, the most obvious ones are:

Reverse Interlinears - I see this as one of the most important things.
Printing/exporting - many users really like printing things!
Favorites - again lots of people find this useful
Highlighting - this is easy to learn, so worth teaching early on, I think.
Layouts - resizing windows, what floating panels are, saving layouts, etc. These are fundamentals, I think.
Prioritising and parallel resources - this is the first 'power user' tool, I'd want to introduce on the second day.
Power searching - only if you have time. I'm thinking of WITHIN, BEFORE, AFTER, using lists, etc.

Hope that helps,

Mark

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/244454#Comment_244454

Hi, Lynden. I'd just sit them down in front of a screen with Mark's videos playing and sit back and relax. [:)]

Just kidding (kind of). I think it's great that you have the opportunity to teach people Logos over a two-day period.

They are probably going to feel overwhelmed with all the info you can present in two days, and you'll be lucky if they remember two or three things. I would make sure you leave them with some sort of handout as a reminder of where they can go for further help when they're ready. Include the links for the wiki, the forums, and all the videos (the official Logos ones at logos.com/videos as well as the user-generated ones linked on the wiki, and Mark's logos4training.com website).

EDIT: I didn't mean include the link for each and every video; just the links to the pages where the lists of videos can be found.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/244450#Comment_244450

I'm no expert but I'd say....the most important thing is WHAT they are going to do with it.

Most are Pastors, and a few are lay ministers, who preach and teach.

Robert Pavich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/244465#Comment_244465

Most are Pastors, and a few are lay ministers, who preach and teach.

Ahh...that's a different story.....forget I mentioned it....

I'd second the take-away cheat sheet that Rosie suggested.

David Ames

On May 4 - 5

Next time have them do a study on some verse and then have them do that study in Logos 4. [Need a week or two lead time to have them do their pre-study-homework]

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/244457#Comment_244457

I would make sure you leave them with some sort of handout as a reminder of where they can go for further help when they're ready. Include the links for the wiki, the forums, and all the videos

If you come up with some kind of handout, it might be helpful to all of us to have it posted here. Maybe not, but I would guess it would help some of us.

Rich DeRuiter

I did this once and learned a few strategies.

First, keep it simple. Show only one way to do things (for now). Also, it really helps if you can do this on a screen everyone can see exactly what you do.

Start with the most basic things like opening a Bible study from the home page. Then show them how to open/close the home page by clicking the home page icon (listen for the 'aha' moment for some).

Then show how to open the Library (one pastor told me that showing him CTRL-L was one of the most helpful things I did that day) and search for a specific commentary (just type in the commentary name for now, and scroll -- remember keep it simple at first).

Show them how to open and use a Passage & Exegetical guide and set the parameters to a verse and a pericope. Show how to open and use a Bible Word Study guide from the right click menu of a reverse interlinear.

Depending on how well they handle this, you could go on to explain all the tools, creating a note (explain the limitations of notes), opening their favorite commentary to their passage, opening a second copy of their favorite Bible.

Be sure to show them how to save their layout and how to close L4 so that it will reopen to their current layout (home page > Customize > uncheck Show home page at startup).

Lynden O. Williams

Thanks. Keep it coming, I am getting some good ideas.

Kenneth Neighoff

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/244531#Comment_244531

Lynden,

Did you purchase the Camp Logos Live videos?

If you did you could watch them, and get an idea about how Morris teaches the foundations one needs to know to use Logos effectively.

I did purchase them and have been watching them, and I have learned a few things that I did not know about Logos, and I have been using since version 2.

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/244566#Comment_244566

Lynden,

Did you purchase the Camp Logos Live videos?

If you did you could watch them, and get an idea about how Morris teaches the foundations one needs to know to use Logos effectively.

I did purchase them and have been watching them, and I have learned a few things that I did not know about Logos, and I have been using since version 2.

Will wait until L4 is finished. Something tells me Logos has many more goodies to reveal this year.

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/244612#Comment_244612

Wiki has Getting Started with Logos page that has several sections of ideas, including Cited By and Reading along with many useful tips.

Keep Smiling [:)]

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/245352#Comment_245352

Big day is tomorrow, and still working on the manual. If anyone can provide step by step pictorial procedures for any of these, it will be greatly appreciated. If someone has already done it, and you have a better way, then go ahead. I will choose the best/simplest ones to use in the manual.

Will be monitoring the forum.

Here is a sample of what I will be teaching.

Attached is a "wordpad" of the outline of the seminar. When finished, the booklet will be published here for all to use.

4503.Logos manual.rtf

Thank you for your assistance.5732.Logos manual.rtf

Lynden O. Williams

Help anyone.

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/246004#Comment_246004

Help anyone.

TCBlack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/245980#Comment_245980

Great Work Lynden!

TCBlack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/245980#Comment_245980

If anyone can provide step by step pictorial procedures for any of these, it will be greatly appreciated.

Ah, well... you might have to get your screen print software warmed up and start making them. But I believe you'll find many of the wiki pages already fit the bill.

Rich DeRuiter

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/245980#Comment_245980

Sorry Lynden, Monday is my day off and I didn't check the forums very closely.

This looks very good, though it also looks like a very full and long day. Be prepared to skim some sections and follow-up with another session.

Don't have any pictures, but there are some in the wiki (as Thomas suggested).

steve clark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/245980#Comment_245980

If anyone can provide step by step pictorial procedures for any of these, it will be greatly appreciated.

i have put links next to your items in your RTF file to wiki pages for the specific items.

3223.Logos manua with Linksl.rtf

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/246056#Comment_246056

Thanks Steve. This is a gold mine.

steve clark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/246060#Comment_246060

This is a gold mine.

i noticed that you left out some useful Tools

Information
Text Comparison
Copy Bible Verse
Cited By
Explorer
Favorites

Lynden O. Williams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/246062#Comment_246062

Information overload. After Thursday, I will use a continual process of teaching.