Publication date: Good news bad news
I recently was pleased to discover that on the L4 Library screen you can right-click the header row and select, among other things, Publication Date for display. This should be great to see when a library search term yields a number of books in your library. Quickly knowing which books were published in, say, 1880, 1950, or 2008 is good information to aid in deciding which to use. But the date appears to be meaningless; for example the Pulpit Commentary is 2004, and Hodge's Systematic Theology is 1997. I'm guessing this is the date Logos obtained it. So this becomes a feature suggestion -- It would be nice if Publication Date could show the actual copyright date of the original book (or its last revision).
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"on the L4 Library screen you can right-click the header row and select, among other things, Publication Date for display"
I'm not sure which screen you are looking at....I get my library list and right click on one of the books and I get a drop down menu to open floating, view, prioritize, etc but no option for publication date...am I looking at the wrong screen?
Chuck
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I'm referring to the title row, which contains the field names such as: "Rank", "Title", "Author", ... Right-clicking allows you to select which fields to display.
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I'm a little thick at time....now I understand...thanks...and I agree with you, would rather have the actual first time publication dates.
Chuck
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Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I believe they or a lot of them are the actual dates...I see old dates for my Ironside books and I see many other date such as 1911 on one of them.
Chuck
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Glad you called that to my attention. I looked only at Pulpit Comm. and Hodge (since I knew they were old), then jumped to conclusions.
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Perhaps some of the are the reprint dates and not the original dates too...
Chuck
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Keith Gant said:
I recently was pleased to discover that on the L4 Library screen you can right-click the header row and select, among other things, Publication Date for display. This should be great to see when a library search term yields a number of books in your library. Quickly knowing which books were published in, say, 1880, 1950, or 2008 is good information to aid in deciding which to use. But the date appears to be meaningless;
Hi Keith
There is a lot of inconsistency there eg. "The King James Version" (original) 1995, whilst "King James Version" (Interlinear) 1900. One reflects the digital publishing date whilst the other reflects the bible revision date! I'll publish this at http://wiki.logos.com/Metadata_correction_proposals under the heading of Some proposals for consistency. Feel free to edit this.
Dave
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The King James Version (kjv.lbxlls L3 version, kjv.logos4 L4 version) which is the 1995 electronic version of the 1769 edition of the 1611 Authorized Version (L3 electronic edition revised Nov 2008, L4 electronic version revised Oct 2009)
King James Version (kjv1900.lbxlls L3 version, kjv1900.logos4 L4 version) which is the 2009 electronic version of the 1900 Authorized Version (Pure Cambridge Edition) (electronic edition revised Jan 2010)
The interlinears are for the Cambridge Edition (kjv1900NT.lbsrvi and kjv1900OT.lbsrvi, both dated Dec 2009)
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I would also like to see the original publication dates provided, especially with the citation (copy/paste) functions. I find that many of my students don't pick up on (due to just not knowing) that many resources in Logos are public domain (especially in the entry level editions), meaning that they are 100 years old or more. So when I ask them to keep their resources current, and they quote Matthew Henry as current, they're missing some crucial information. It's a bit frustrating - from a teacher's perspective. As good as Matthew Henry was in his day, there's been a lot of water under the bridge since.[;)]
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I feel your pain Doug. This is why I have "banned" a few resources for upper level assignments (Matthew Henry occupies the #1 spot and "Study Bibles" are not too far behind)
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Doug Dunbar said:
I would also like to see the original publication dates provided,
Please see Publication Date at http://wiki.logos.com/Metadata_correction_proposals. We can request changes and Logos do provide feedback - but changes are slow.
Dave
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I noticed the weirdest thing about those publication dates just recently: I bought a volume from the Warfield collection, namely "The Works of Benjamin B. Warfield, Volume 8: Perfectionism, Part Two".
Inside Logos it seems to have a publication date of 2008, yet on the related page such date is nowhere to be seen. The correct original date that is mentioned on the page is 1932, but this cannot be found anywhere in the Logos.
It's so bothersome that it's funny.I'm all for adding extra information just so that I don't have to google my own books to find out about real original dates. They should be accessible SOMEWHERE inside the program. On the bright side, at least the dates are accessible on site.
related link: http://www.logos.com/product/4201/b-b-warfield-collection
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I'm glad you brought this thread back. For my library, almost all my resources now have pretty good pub-dates (the recent Expositor's Greek Testament didn't fill in the field). But otherwise, looks good ... I exposed it for my use.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise Barnhart said:
almost all my resources now have pretty good pub-dates
As i mentioned almost 12 months ago, you can address these issues at http://wiki.logos.com/Metadata_correction_proposals.
Dave
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Dave .... I did look at the metadata wiki page .... is anything fixed or do the lines just accumulate? I noted your previous comment about the process not being immediate.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Denise Barnhart said:
I did look at the metadata wiki page .... is anything fixed or do the lines just accumulate
When fixed they are moved under the heading Corrections addressed by Logos. Logos haven't fixed anything this year, which is a concern.
Dave
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