Group driver

Josh Hunt
Josh Hunt Member Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭
edited December 2024 in English Forum

I am an old WordSearch user. although, your program is better in many ways, there is one thing WordSearch has you might consider.  It is called a group driver. here is how they describe it. It works great

 


Four Sync Groups. We've solved that problem in WORDsearch 9 with "Sync" Groups. Every kind of book that might be synchronized to the Bible—Bibles, Commentaries, Maps, Cross-References--has a Sync Group button, which lets you assign one of four groups. Each book in the same group Syncs with the other books in that group. If you change the position in any one window in a group, all the other group members follow along.

Follow the Leader. You can make one book in each group, the Group Driver. If you move the location of the Driver, all the others follow, but if you move the location of a book that is not the Driver, nothing else changes.

 

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  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Josh Hunt said:


    I am an old WordSearch user. although, your program is better in many ways, there is one thing WordSearch has you might consider.  It is called a group driver. here is how they describe it. It works great

     


    Four Sync Groups. We've solved that problem in WORDsearch 9 with "Sync" Groups. Every kind of book that might be synchronized to the Bible—Bibles, Commentaries, Maps, Cross-References--has a Sync Group button, which lets you assign one of four groups. Each book in the same group Syncs with the other books in that group. If you change the position in any one window in a group, all the other group members follow along.

    Follow the Leader. You can make one book in each group, the Group Driver. If you move the location of the Driver, all the others follow, but if you move the location of a book that is not the Driver, nothing else changes.

     

     


    If you link several resources in Logos, they will follow WHICHEVER resource you change without making it the "group driver."  Speaking of group drivers, if others want to contribute to the gas, I volunteer to be the group driver.  [;)]

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Josh Hunt
    Josh Hunt Member Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭

    that is the point, I don't want the others to drive the group. let's say I am studying John 3.16

     

    I go to a commentary. I scroll down to catch the context, or because sometimes the commentaries don't sync up exactly--maybe in syncs to John 3.1, When I click on that, my bible goes to John 3.1. I want my bible to drive the train and not move. 

  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭

    Josh Hunt said:


    that is the point, I don't want the others to drive the group. let's say I am studying John 3.16

     

    I go to a commentary. I scroll down to catch the context, or because sometimes the commentaries don't sync up exactly--maybe in syncs to John 3.1, When I click on that, my bible goes to John 3.1. I want my bible to drive the train and not move. 


    So unlink them.

    george
    gfsomsel

    יְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,845

    Josh, the group driver idea has been requested before. I think it is a good idea. We need to be able to specify a 'master' resource for linking so that we don't end up with, say, our Bible bouncing back and forth because the references in linked commentaries don't exactly line up, just as you point out. It wouldn't seem to me to be too hard a problem to solve. Of course, Logos is still trying to get some of the older Logos 3 functions implemented in Logos 4, so we won't hold our breath on these being given to go ahead.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Josh Hunt
    Josh Hunt Member Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭

    thanks; it was a huge help when they added this in the newest version of Wordsearch

  • steve clark
    steve clark Member Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭

    i like the idea of group leader, but would settle for a quick keyboard command to have a resource to quickly position itself to a specified Linked book.

    e.g. Have Ctrl Shift A position an active book to where my Bible is located which is linked with Link set A. (keyboard shortcuts with this prefix could work with any of the linked set A-F). This way i would not have to link that book and could scroll around and then quickly reposition it back to where my linked Bible is located.

    QLinks, Bibl2, LLR, Macros
    Dell Insp 17-5748, i5, 1.7 GHz, 8G RAM, win 8.1

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Using primarily L3 and watching the same whak-a-mole bouncing resouces, the issue of a linked-leader or group-driver or synchranize-this-resource is probably something that is too difficult to program in Logos. I always remember even the Logos programmers / developers what playing whak-a-mole during Bible study too.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Josh Hunt
    Josh Hunt Member Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭

    i say if the programmers at WordSearch are smart enough to do it, you guys can too!

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,845

    Josh Hunt said:

    i say if the programmers at WordSearch are smart enough to do it, you guys can too!

    I agree. Basically we need some one-way links: ones that drive but are never driven.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Bohuslav Wojnar
    Bohuslav Wojnar Member Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭

    Bohuslav

  • Rosie Perera
    Rosie Perera Member Posts: 26,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Josh Hunt said:

    i say if the programmers at WordSearch are smart enough to do it, you guys can too!

    Hi Josh, be aware that so far you're just talking to a bunch of Logos users. I haven't seen any Logos employees chime in on this thread yet. You can identify them by the Logos icon below their picture:

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, now I guess 'Quick Verse' will have group-driver too. Sigh. Maybe WordSearch will buy the Logos4 product line too. That'd give a few souls a fast heart-attack.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,845

    Maybe WordSearch will buy the Logos4 product line too.

    And maybe the NY Times will be bought out by the Barre Granite Company so they can start producing newsrocks instead of newspapers. Just as progressive.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,633 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In our little town, NYT is viewed as the 'newsrock' (due to its size), and of course one doesn't want to subscribe without getting it out of your driveway before your neighbors see how paper-wasteful you are. Just one more example of the joys of Logos books.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • steve clark
    steve clark Member Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭

    Josh Hunt said:

    Follow the Leader. You can make one book in each group, the Group Driver.

    You might want to view this new tool that i posted. It doesn't exactly do what you are looking for but it can resolve some of your issues.

    Tool: QuickLink

    QLinks, Bibl2, LLR, Macros
    Dell Insp 17-5748, i5, 1.7 GHz, 8G RAM, win 8.1