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Jerry Bush
Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

There is an amazing deal out there involving that includes the Word Biblical Commentary. I much prefer to purchase from Logos, but there is no way they can match this. To avoid breaking forum rules, I will not mention where I saw this deal.

Even at this price, it would eat up almost all of the rest of my book budget for this year. My question is this: is it really worth it? I am self-studied, with no formal Bible education and very little knowledge of original languages. I Pastor a small-to-medium sized church that is theologically conservative but I would not call us fundamentalist at all.

I have other good commentaries, so I am wondering if this would add to my study. For some of you, it is a no-brainer, but for me it is a huge investment; my budget would pretty much be done and I have more than half the year to go.

So what do you think?

Jerry

Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

Comments

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Jerry, 

    I have WBC and next to NIC it is among my most used commentaries.  It is however, technical in nature meaning that it relies upon the original languages to a fair extent.  

    Perhaps if you're working on a current pericope I can post a bit of the content so you can get a feel for it?

    What are you working on right now?

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭

    I'm doing a series on the four good kings of Judah (Asa, Jehoshaphat, Hezekiah, and Josiah). The one for this Sunday is Asa, so 1 Kings 15.9-24 will be my main source.

    Thanks for the advice and time!

    Jerry

    Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

     I've turned off page numbering but the passage spans pp188-191.....

    [quote]


    The
    Reign of Asa (15:9-24)

    Bibliography

    Barrick,
    W. B.

    “On the ‘Removal of the “High-Places” ’ in 1–2 Kings.”
    Bib
    55 (1974) 257–59. Malamat,
    A.

    The Aramaeans in
    Aram Naharaim and the Rise of their States

    (Heb). Diss. Hebrew University, 1952. Melin,
    G.

    Die
    Stellung der Gebira
    im Staate Juda (1 K 15:13).”
    TZ
    10 (1954) 161–75. Unger,
    M. F.

    Israel and the
    Aramaeans of Damascus
    .
    London: J. Clarke & Co., 1957.

    Translation


    9Now
    in the twentieth
    a
    year of Jeroboam king of Israel
    bAsa
    king of Judah began to reign,
    b
    10and for
    forty-one years he reigned in Jerusalem. And the name of his mother
    was Maacah
    a
    daughter of Abishalom.
    11And
    Asa performed what was right in the eyes of Yahweh, like David his
    father.
    12And
    he dismissed the
    acult
    prostitutes
    a
    from the land, and removed all the idols which his fathers,
    b
    13even
    Maacah his mother, had made, so that he deposed her from the office
    of queen mother. She had made a detestable cult object for Asherah,
    so that Asa had to cut down her cult object and burn it in
    14the
    wadi Kidron. But they
    a
    did not remove the country shrines; nevertheless, Asa’s own heart
    was continually loyal toward Yahweh.


    15And
    ahe
    brought
    a
    the sacral booty
    b
    of his father, with the sacral booty
    cof
    his own,
    c
    into the temple of Yahweh, silver and gold and artifacts.


    16And
    hostility existed between Asa and Baasha
    a
    throughout all their days.


    17Now
    Baasha king of Israel came up against Judah. And he constructed Ramah
    aso as to
    prevent anyone wishing to depart from or enter in
    a
    to Asa king of Judah.
    18Then
    Asa took
    a
    the silver and the gold that
    bwere
    still left
    b
    in the treasure-rooms
    cof
    Yahweh’s temple
    dand
    in
    d the
    treasure-rooms
    c
    of
    ethe
    king’s
    e
    house, and entrusted them into the hand
    f
    of his servants. And King Asa sent them to Ben-Hadad, the son of
    Tabrimmon, son of Hezion, the king of Syria who was dwelling in
    Damascus, with the following message:
    19a“There
    is
    a a
    treaty between me
    band
    you,
    b
    between
    c my
    father and your father. Behold, I have sent you a gift of silver and
    gold; come, break your treaty with Baasha king of Israel so that he
    will withdraw from me.”
    20And
    Ben-Hadad hearkened to King Asa, dispatching whatever officers of
    athe armed
    forces
    a
    were available to him against the cities of Israel. And he
    b
    attacked lyyon, Dan, and Abel-beth-maacah;
    c
    also all of Kinneroth
    d
    adjoining the entire territory of Naphtali.
    21So
    when Baasha heard of it, he left off building Ramah, and
    astayed
    in
    a Tirzah.
    22Then King
    Asa made a proclamation to entire Judah, leaving nobody free, that
    they should carry away the stones of Ramah, with its timbers, with
    which Baasha had been building. And
    aKing
    Asa
    a built
    Geba of Benjamin and Mizpah with them.
    b
    23Now the
    remainder of
    a
    Asa’s acts, including all his works of greatness
    b
    which he did
    cand
    the cities that he built,
    c
    are these not written in the Book
    dof
    the Chronicles of the Judahite Kings?
    d
    However, at the time of his old age
    e
    he suffered with his feet.
    24And
    Asa slept
    awith
    his fathers
    a
    and was buried with his fathers in the city of David his father. And
    Jehoshaphat his son reigned in his place.

    Notes


    9.a.
    MT. GBL
    “twenty-fourth”; cf. v 8
    LXX


    9.b-b. MT. GBL “Asa became king over
    Judah.”


    10.a. MT. GBL
    “Hannah”; cf. v 13.


    12.a-a. MT (הקדשים,
    translated σύνδεσμος
    in 14:24).
    Here GB
    renders τελετὰς
    “priests,” while GL
    renders στήλας
    = Heb מַצֵבוֹת
    standing stones.”
    Since the problem of translation cannot have been linguistic, these
    variations can only be ideological and apologetic.


    12.b. Chr inserts a long passage.


    14.a. MT. GBL, Syr., Vg have “he,” making
    Asa the antecedent.


    15.a-a. MT, GB. GL has
    paraphrastic “Asa brought into Yahweh’s temple.”


    15.b. MT (קדשי
    holy things”; cf.
    7:51).
    Not understanding the word, the Gr. translators offer κίονας
    “pillars,” which does not appear to have a regular Heb
    equivalent.


    15.c-c. K, G, Syr., Tg., Chr Q makes the pious correction, “of
    Yahweh’s temple.”


    16.a. MT, GL
    GB
    adds explicative “king of Israel”; cf. v 17.


    17.a-a. MT (לבלתי
    תת יעא וכא “to
    prevent departing from or entering in.” GBLτοῦ
    μὴ εἶναι = לבּלתי
    היות “so it is not.”


    18.a. GBL. MT adds pleonastic “all.”


    18.b-b. MT. GBL “was found” (sing.).


    18.c-c. MT, GL. GB omits
    (homoioteleuton).


    18.d-d. GL, Syr. MT “and the”; GB
    corr.


    18.e-e. mss, Q K corr.


    18.f. MT. GBL pl..


    19.a-a. MT, noun-clause. The Gr. translators are puzzled
    by this unusual construction: GB offers διαθήκη
    for Heb בְּוִית
    covenant,” “treaty,” preceded by
    the impv. of διατιθημι “arrange,”
    as though the two were from the same root, but there is no reason to
    suppose that the Heb Vorlage had a verb. GLΔιαθήκη
    ἔστω “let there be a treaty” might be a legitimate
    paraphrase except for the tact that a subjunctive is not suitable
    when referring to something that occurred in the past—the
    foretathers’ treaty.


    19.b-b. MT, GL. GB omits (haplography?).


    19.c. MT. GBL “and between” is syndetic,
    giving better Gr. style.


    20.a-a. MT (pl.). GBL have sing. with pl. gen
    and the possessive pronoun.


    20.b. MT, Par (sing., referring to Ben-hadad). Chr, G
    pl., choosing “armed forces” as the subject.


    20.c. MT. GBL corr; cf. Chr


    20.d. MT. GBL corr. Chr מסכנות
    storage places”; Par reads Heb ככרות
    surroundings.”


    21.a-a. MT. GBL “returned to.” MT uses root ישׁב
    “dwell,” G reads root שׁוּב
    “return.” MT is lectio difficilior, but makes good
    sense when understood with reference to Baasha’s behavior
    subsequent to the Syrian invasion.


    22.a-a. MT, GB. GL “Asa”; Chr omits. A
    mention of Asa’s regal office is to be expected here.


    22.b. Chr inserts a long passage.


    23.a. GBL. MT “of all” is not only
    pleonastuc, but clearly enters the text from the two occurrences of
    וכל
    and all” in the immediate sequel.


    23.b. GBL. MT adds “and all” (see above).


    23.c-c. MT. GL “and cities …”; GB
    omits (haplography?).


    23.d-d. Chr “of the kings of Judah and Israel.”


    23.e. MT and GB. GL has
    interpretive gloss “Asa did what was evil.”


    24.a-a. MT, GL. GB omits
    (haplography).

    Form/Structure/Setting


    [Dtr: The reign of Asa


    1. Introductory summary, vv 9–10


    2. Cult reforms and theological
    assessment, vv 11–14]


    Memorandum from the temple
    archives, v 15


    Extract from the Book of the
    Chronicles of the Judahite Kings 16


    Narrative of Asa’s alliance with Ben-Hadad


    1. The proposal


    a. Baasha’s threat: a fort at
    Ramah, v 17


    b. Asa’s embassage to Damascus


    (1). The gift, v 18


    (2). Bribery to betrayal, v 19


    2. The compliance


    a. Preparations for Syrian
    aggression, v 20a


    b. The campaign, v 20b


    3. The result: favorable conditions for Asa


    a. Baasha withdraws, v 21


    b. Asa builds counterfortresses, v 22


    [Dtr: Closing summary for Asa, vv
    23–24]


    The account of Asa’s reign begins with an unusually
    expansive summary from Dtr, picking up from the archives a detail of
    how idolatry affected the king’s own household. Following brief
    extracts from the temple archives and the Judahite chronicle, Dtr
    inserts a detailed political narrative from Asa’s court, telling of
    his treaty with Syria and of his border defenses. At the conclusion,
    the Asa account receives a somewhat expanded closing summary in the
    usual Dtr format.

    Comment


    9–15
    Jeroboam was still king in Israel when Asa began to reign, but it
    would be with Baasha, the leader of a new dynasty, that Asa would
    have serious trouble. According to our chronology, Asa appointed
    Jehoshaphat to serve as coregent with him during his final three
    years (his foot trouble reported in v 23
    may have been the cause of this). On the identity of his “mother,”
    see above on v 2.
    Dtr finds him to be the first Judahite king to deserve high praise:
    he did “what was right in the eyes of Yahweh, like David his
    father” (11),
    and his “heart was continually loyal toward Yahweh” (14).
    In particular, he exiled the cult prostitutes, הקים,
    a masc. pl., but functioning as common gender to include both sexes.
    He also “removed” (i.e., destroyed) all the idols (
    הגללים,
    vocalized for the word “filth,” which synagogue-readers were
    supposed to pronounce) made by his fathers, i.e., “ancestors,”
    meaning primarily Solomon. He had to depose Maacah (his grandmother),
    from being
    גביוה
    because
    she had installed a cult object, probably a wooden plaque, of Asherah
    (see the pl. in
    14:23),
    Canaanite goddess of fertility (the Earth Mother). He did not
    suppress the country-shrines, but Dtr is in no mood to blame him for
    that. The temple extract in v
    15
    mentions without comment that Asa also deposited sacral booty in the
    temple treasury (cf.
    7:51b),
    something which Abijam had evidently neglected.

    16–22
    A summary statement from the Book of the Chronicles of the Judahite
    Kings introduces the political narrative of vv 16–22.
    Baasha “came up,” i.e., attacked Judah, apparently without
    encountering effective resistance. Most of Benjamin’s ancestral
    territory had been under Jerusalem’s control (See 12:21),
    but now Baasha fortified Ramah (Samuel’s residence, 1
    Sam 7:17
    ), about three miles
    south of the traditional border. As the narrator sees it, this was to
    prevent northerners from having contact with Asa (that the title,
    “King Asa,” predominates in these verses suggests that the writer
    is a loyal partisan of this king), though Baasha’s true purpose may
    have been to defend against Judahite aggression. Shishak had pretty
    well cleaned out the temple’s and the palace’s treasuries
    (14:26),
    but Asa sent what was left to bribe Ben-Hadad to attack Baasha. Since
    this Syrian king’s father and grandfather are mentioned, his
    relationship to the Rezon of 11:23–25
    is problematical. Upon arriving in Damascus, Asa’s emissaries
    (“servants”) present a message which (1) calls attention to a
    treaty between Asa’s and Ben-Hadad’s respective “fathers”
    (otherwise unmentioned; there is no solid basis for Noth’s proposal
    [339] to read the noun-clause as a wish); (2) calls attention to the
    gift; and (3) requests Ben-Hadad to break his treaty with Baasha
    (also unmentioned elsewhere).

    V
    20
    reads as if the bulk of Ben-Hadad’s army may have been occupied
    elsewhere, but he sent the forces that were available into a raid of
    three towns in the upper Jordan valley, together with the fertile
    plain adjacent to the Sea of Galilee and the Galilean uplands as far
    inland as the border of Naphtali. As our narrator tells it, Baasha
    left off building Ramah when he heard of this raid and returned to
    Tirzah, but he is probably ignorant of what probably did happen,
    viz., that Baasha sent a strong force to drive BenHadad away. In any
    case, Asa’s design was met. Since there were no more Israelite
    soldiers to defend Ramah, Asa was able to effectuate a universal
    conscription for taking Ramah down and using its timbers to build his
    own forts at Geba and Mizpah.

    23-24
    In Asa’s closing summary, Dtr is moved to make special mention of
    unnamed “works of greatness” and certain cities that were built
    (or rebuilt). Asa did become old; subsisting on a rich diet, he
    probably contracted gout, “the ailment of kings.” With his
    approving attitude toward Asa, Dtr is not inclined to judge this
    illness as some kind of punishment sent from Yahweh.

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  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,845

    Jerry, I am aware of the offer and doubt it will ever get better. This offer is for a resource that Logos does not sell so I doubt they can match it. Maybe they'll match for just the WBC part but there is more than that in the offer being made. The publisher may be dropping the price on this combined product and Logos will not be able to match the price for the WBC alone as strange as that is.

    One advantage to the WBC is that it covers a good deal of the Bible. Like any series there are highs and lows, and I find the format of the series aggravating to use. However for the money it would be next to impossible to match what you get here for what you are being asked to pay.

    I prefer the NIC volumes in most cases to the WBC. But they are a bunch more money and don't cover as much of the Bible at this point. I use the WBC regularly, but rarely would choose it as the top commentary I have on a book of the Bible. I am glad to have it and it would be on my list to buy if I didn't own it.

    The offer may come around again, but it will never be cheaper IMO.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,845

    One other suggestion. If you haven't done so already, mosey on over to http://www.bestcommentaries.com/ and browse some books of the Bible for where the WBC volume ranks among the rated commentaries. I note that in 1 Kings the WBC volume is ranked seventh among the 1 Kings commentaries. The 2 Kings WBC volume is ranked 4th. Two commentaries available in Logos format rank above both: the NAC and the TOTC. The top ranked commentary (NIBCOT) is not available in Logos format (the NT volumes in the series are, however).

    I am preaching through Nehemiah and my top three commentaries in Logos format are TOTC, NICOT, and WBC. These happen to be the top three on the Best Commentaries site also.

    I am doing some work in Colossians and the top rated commentary there is the WBC volume. I concur with that rating. I also have the rest of the top four in Logos format.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • Alan Charles Gielczyk
    Alan Charles Gielczyk Member Posts: 776 ✭✭

    Don't discount the fact that you get another entire commentary set in that deal that is over $100 from Logos, plus over 100 other volumes. I would jump at this deal if I did not already have the Word series and most of the other volumes.

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    OK, this made me curious. For a long time I thought my googling skills were failing me, but finally I found something. Thomas, are we talking roughly the same deal as was posted on your blog-forum in March? Or are we talking about something else?

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • Praiser
    Praiser Member Posts: 962 ✭✭

    fgh said:


    OK, this made me curious. For a long time I thought my googling skills were failing me, but finally I found something. Thomas, are we talking roughly the same deal as was posted on your blog-forum in March? Or are we talking about something else?


     

    Use the link there and see the price.

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Praiser said:

    Use the link there and see the price.

    Ah! Didn't try that, since it was "too old". That's $9 less than what I found.

    Great deal if you want it all, or at least most of it. Unfortunately I only want Word and the New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge, and I'm not sure I can justify the cost at this time. How long does it last?

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    fgh said:

    Great deal if you want it all, or at least most of it. Unfortunately I only want Word and the New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge, and I'm not sure I can justify the cost at this time.

    It's actually a great deal even if you only want the WBC, since that price is cheaper than you are going to find the WBC by itself anywhere.

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Does it work in Logos 4? On Mac? I know the "Pro's" are the price, are there any "con's"?

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    It's actually a great deal even if you only want the WBC

    It's a good deal if you only want the WBC. It's a great deal if you want a lot of it.

    that price is cheaper than you are going to find the WBC by itself anywhere

    Right now, yes. But this is at least the 6th sale I've seen on the WBC since September, so I doubt it's going to be the last. I'm still thinking of it though, which is why I'd like to know when it ends.

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • Mark Smith
    Mark Smith MVP Posts: 11,845

    Does it work in Logos 4? On Mac?

    Sure does.

    are there any "con's"?

    The price for some. But what it is going for now is as good as it gets.

    Pastor, North Park Baptist Church

    Bridgeport, CT USA

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    I assume that I would get a CD Rom for these resources. A con would be the lack of being able to re-download the files later if I loose the disc, correct?

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  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    I assume that I would get a CD Rom for these resources. A con would be the lack of being able to re-download the files later if I loose the disc, correct?

    You would get a CDRom and an activation code or product key, but you can can actually download the resources initially and re-download them later.  The con is the extra work getting the licenses in Logos4.  See the section entitled "Resources purchased through other retailers" on this page:

    http://wiki.logos.com/Adding_new_resources_to_Logos_4

    Once you've got the licenses in Logos4, you don't need to keep track of any media.  That's one of the benefits of Logos 4.

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    The con would also be the shipping cost. And for someone outside of the US the risk of having to pay VAT.

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    sorry for asking so many questions...

    so the product is identical to what i would get with Logos? full functionality? if typos are fixed in the future, they get updated as well?

     

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    I guess another con would be that you probably don't get any 30 days money back guarantee, like Logos gives.

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    if typos are fixed in the future, they get updated as well?

    Yes.

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    so the product is identical to what i would get with Logos? full functionality? if typos are fixed in the future, they get updated as well?

    Yes.

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Timothy Ha
    Timothy Ha Member Posts: 431 ✭✭

    fgh said:

    The con would also be the shipping cost. And for someone outside of the US the risk of having to pay VAT.

    If you specify in your order that you only need the serial number, they will send you only the serial number.

    Worked for me when I purchased Luther's Collection of Works.

     

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  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    If you specify in your order that you only need the serial number, they will send you only the serial number.

    That's great to know. Did they send it by snail mail, or did they agree to e-mail it to you?

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Todd - 

    The wiki page you directed me to says that there is two ways for me to register the product. Since Logos does not sell this package, will that cause a problem? Also, the second way mentioned is to use Logos 3. It is my understanding that Logos 3 is Windows only. Is there an alternate program for Mac? I noticed on the forum pages a program called Logos 1 for Mac. Is this the equivalent to Logos 3? Can I download Logos 1 for Mac?

    Thanks for all your help. 

    Justin

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  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    Todd - 

    The wiki page you directed me to says that there is two ways for me to register the product. Since Logos does not sell this package, will that cause a problem? Also, the second way mentioned is to use Logos 3. It is my understanding that Logos 3 is Windows only. Is there an alternate program for Mac? I noticed on the forum pages a program called Logos 1 for Mac. Is this the equivalent to Logos 3? Can I download Logos 1 for Mac?

    Thanks for all your help. 

    Justin

    Calling customer service to register 3rd party products is not a problem. Since you have a Mac, calling CS is really your only option (unless you want to install a Windows emulator to run Logos 3).

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭

    Hey everyone - thanks for the advice, and especially to Thomas for posting the excerpt.

    It is not too technical for me, but if I buy it now, I will have about $60 left for the rest of the year in my book budget. So I am going to have to pass.

    I reiterate the comments about calling in a serial number. I have done it numerous times and it is very easy. I suppose if you had L3 still installed, that would be fine, but for Mac users and those of us that have removed L3, I assure you that calling Logos customer service is very painless. I have seen the download start before the call with them is over.

    Thanks again everyone, but finances dictate a no-purchase this time.

    Jerry

    Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    Thanks again everyone, but finances dictate a no-purchase this time.

     I understand Jerry, I'm watching the IVP OT dictionaries whizz past me for the same reasons - I've already sucked up my entire book budget for the year (It shrank this year out of necessity).  The Talmud - coming out today (?!) will just about finish the task.

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  • Jerry Bush
    Jerry Bush Member Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭

    Those are really great resources if you have the bucks. I got them maybe a couple of years ago.

    Just about anything IVP puts out seems to be worth it to me.

    Jerry

    Macbook Air (2024), Apple M2, 16gb Ram, Mac Sequoia, 1TB storage

  • Mike Childs
    Mike Childs Member Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭

    Yes, indeed.  It is definately worth it.  WBC does require a bit of working with Greek text, but it is one of the best resources that I have.  The Preacher's Commentary is a great balance because it is more homoletical and not so heavy on the technical side.

    This offer is a great opportunity.  I have both commentaries and most of the other books, so I can't benefit.  But I am happy for those who do benefit.


    "In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

  • Michael Anda
    Michael Anda Member Posts: 497 ✭✭

    What is this collection being discussed here called?

     

     

     

  • Todd Phillips
    Todd Phillips Member Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭

    What is this collection being discussed here called?

    eBible Pastor Edition

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540