Google Chromebooks & Logos

FWiW I have found Biblia works great with my beta CR-48 Chrome notebook.  Combined with Google Docs (or zoho or whatever) it is a great tool.  

However since library.logos.com was further along, it's the only place you can currently get a study guide and I would opt for that at the moment if I'm away from my desktop L4.

Biblia will no doubt pass the former site way up but I have no idea when.

I am considering buying a Chromebook at the moment, and am trying to figure out if it is worth it, based on my usage of Logos. I am a Bible college student and heavily reliant of Logos. Biblia.com is great, but there are still some things that make me weary in regards to getting a Chromebook. How advanced do you think Biblia will be, or do you think that maybe there will be a Logos for Chrome app?

Biblia.com is the closest thing to a Chrome app we have planned. Biblia will continue evolving, but it will never reach the functionality of Logos 4. Biblia is designed to appeal to a more casual audience than Logos 4 is, and it's not really practical to implement a lot of those features in Biblia. That said, the best way to get us to implement a feature you want is to ask for it

That said, the best way to get us to implement a feature you want is to ask for it

Thank you.

That said, the best way to get us to implement a feature you want is to ask for it

 May we please have Passage Guides and Bible Word Studies in Biblia.com?  

Thank you.

Yes please!

I agree with Mr. Black and Mr. Phillips; I would love Biblia to incorporate the Exegetical Guide and Word Study capabilities. 

See now?  There's three very polite requests. :-)

See now?  There's three very polite requests. :-)

Please...

that makes 4. 

Please? (Makes 5)

I invision a day when FULL Logos functionality will be available through a web browser. Who would have thought 10 years ago we would be able to do what we do now?

Make that six. Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please!

Seven is a perfect number! (And the functionality must be a long way there as a result of the iPhone app. Can you borrow their server-side code?)

Uh....I hate to take this past the perfect #7 but....

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Seven is a perfect number! (And the functionality must be a long way there as a result of the iPhone app. Can you borrow their server-side code?)

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Personally, I'm in love with the concept of the Chromebook, and more importantly, the cloud. I must say though that I'm a little dissapointed by the statement that Biblia is not planned to reach the functionality of Logos 4. Yes, I recognize that there might be certain limitations to making the web app 100% identical to the software, but, frankly, if the app were suitable enough to replace my software on the computer, I'd be more inclined to switch to it. Why take up the hard drive space if you don't need to? Why confine your software to one machine if you could access it anywhere? It is not uncommon to find myself accessing 5 or more different computers on a daily basis, given my present situation as both a worker and a student. The cloud concept is making such a predicament not quite as difficult for me. Again, I'm not saying that you need to implement all the bells and whistles of the software, but I would appreciate it if Biblia offered most of them, or at least enough to make a nice alternative to the software itself. 

Yes,  Passage Guides and Bible Word Studies in Biblia.com would be wonderful.

Thanks

I second this! I miss the Logos application on my old windows PC (that is all I miss from that beast), and I realize it may be a long time until we get the same functionality through Biblia, but I would love to see highlighting sync between Biblia on my chromebox and chromebook and my android devices.

Oh, that would be wonderful!

One more feature I would love - a smooth way to copy and paste verses from Biblia, so that I could easily place passages in my google docs.

Thanks for taking the time to consider requests from those living on the bleeding edge of technology. :-)

Mark, 

In the future please use the reply button and then quote whom you are replying to. This is hard to follow.

All of the above and notes as well (not community notes)

The Acer C7 Chromebook seems to hold some promise as a cheap Logos notebook because it has an Intel Celeron (not ARM) processor and a 320GB hard drive.  Folks have been successful in getting Ubuntu installed (dual boot) so it is feasible that Windows is an option as well.  It has 2GB of RAM and there is a removable panel, so additional storage may also be an option.  The best part is that it is only $199.  

http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/acer-c7-chromebook.html

Available from Google, Best Buy, Newegg, Tiger Direct and Staples:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/02/acer-c7-chromebook/

Mark, 

In the future please use the reply button and then quote whom you are replying to. This is hard to follow.

Gotcha. Will do!

Bought a Samsung Chromebook and am using it with Biblia.  Works well, although I wish Logos would build a reader for Chrome a la Kindle Reader that would allow you to download and pin books.  In the meantime, I will supplement it with my Nexus 7 when on the go.

There are rumours that android APPS are going to be doing to ChromeBooks soon, so you might get it, the only reason Logos is on Amazon Fire Tablets is that they are android based tablets, if Google dose add in Android APP support you will have your Logos app.

-Dan

There are rumours that android APPS are going to be doing to ChromeBooks soon, so you might get it, the only reason Logos is on Amazon Fire Tablets is that they are android based tablets, if Google dose add in Android APP support you will have your Logos app.

-Dan

That would be a good thing if it works...

One good feature of the Chromebook is Chrome Remote Desktop and that at least allows you to access the full Logos app on a PC from anywhere.

I have been using my Samsung Series 3 ARM Chromebook with biblia.com for a few weeks and have found it works well.  I hope Logos will expand the feature set of the website as Chromebooks are increasing in popularity.  The Samsung Chromebook is currently the #1 selling notebook on Amazon.com.  Google has released its very expensive Pixel Chromebook and it is receiving rave reviews.  Also, Asus, Acer and Samsung have all announced new Chromebooks for release later this year.  2013 is being called the year of the Chromebook.  Could this be the future?

I too am moving towards a Chromebook future. Computing should be more about productivity and less about spending time maintaining a bulky OS and keeping up with the latest version of large costly software applications. I want a computer that will allow me to quickly and easily perform the tasks I need without have to become an expert in the OS -- And my first computer was an XT compatible IBM clone back in 1987, so I've seen how OS's have grown and become overgrown.

So I hope the folks at Logos will continue to support and develop  Biblia for online computing needs. It doesn't have to match Logos, but a little more functionality would be great. On my android app of Logos, I can get the lemma and grammatical tags from BHS and tagged greek texts. It would be wonderful to do that on Biblia as well. Biblia doesn't necessary need a full-featured grammatical search engine, but the ability to search on lemmas in original language texts would be wonderful.

Please keep improving Biblia. It's been on Beta with no changes for awhile now.

Thanks for providing a great product.

Dennis Toll

It would also be great if Logos would create a Chrome "packaged app".  These apps are available offline and behave more like computer programs:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9238906/Google_bares_Chrome_s_Trojan_strategy_with_native_style_packaged_apps

http://www.businessinsider.com/googles-new-apps-are-bad-for-microsoft-2013-5

I wonder why there is a Chrome app for Biblia but not one for Faithlife?  

It would also be great if Logos would create a Chrome "packaged app".  These apps are available offline and behave more like computer programs:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9238906/Google_bares_Chrome_s_Trojan_strategy_with_native_style_packaged_apps

http://www.businessinsider.com/googles-new-apps-are-bad-for-microsoft-2013-5

Indeed! Just watched the 2013 I/O presentation...

http://developer.chrome.com/apps/about_apps.html

What I would like is a better option for interlinear Bibles on Biblia.com.  Now, it just displays the base text with no English translation, which is pretty much useless for an interlinear.  It lieu of an interlinear, could you please at least model it as an INTRAlinear where the English translations follow the Greek or Hebrew in the text (perhaps in parenthesis).  That way, at least you have a gloss into English.  Thanks!

Just picked up a Samsung Chromebook to replace a MBair that I'm giving my son for seminary.

I"m hoping for better development of Biblia in the future, but glad we have this now.

Just picked up a Samsung Chromebook

I'm still running the original CR-48 from the chrome beta and use that option somewhat regularly.

Just picked up a Samsung Chromebook

Kevin don't forget the deprecated but still functional http://library.logos.com You can run passage guides from there and open the links in new tabs via ctrl+click.  

I'm still running the original CR-48 from the chrome beta and use that option somewhat regularly.

Thanks. Didn't think about that.

Wonder why companies replace old products with less functional new ones? Apple, Google, Microsot and Logos all do this repeatedly.

If I were in charge of a software company I'd have to be pulled kicking and screaming into a software release where the new product did less than the old unless the feature was something that almost no one used.

I will be happy when Logos builds a fully-functional web app (combining all of the functions of the ones they already have) that works well on the Chromebook. It seems that cloud computing is the future and Logos should capitalize on this trend.

I second this!

http://library.logos.com is a fairly good browser based way to access your Library.... not sure why more features haven;t been integrated into Biblia but it is there...

-Dan

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Yes,  Passage Guides and Bible Word Studies in Biblia.com would be wonderful.

Thanks

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Yes,  Passage Guides and Bible Word Studies in Biblia.com would be wonderful.

[Y][Y][Y] I'd also like to see passage guide and word study (and maybe text comparison) from library.logos.com added to Biblia and/or Faithlife.  I find the current logos online apps in addition to a few other websites let me do almost all of my reading and studying online. It would be nice to be able to do this at one website. 

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Yes,  Passage Guides and Bible Word Studies in Biblia.com would be wonderful.

 

Thanks

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http://library.logos.com has passage guide the bible word study is not the best but it dose have much of the Logos Application function in it although not the best interface, but better than nothing, as I said before I have no idea why all http://library.logos.com functions haven;t made it into Biblia.com yet...

-DAN

I agree completely. An online thin client version of Logos would be great. The feature I am looking for (but as of yet is not available) in Biblia is to have access to the morphological data in the BHS and Greek NT texts. The ability to do a morphological search and see the tags in the original texts would be wonderful!

I want to see Logos 4 be created for Chromebook OS. I love this software and I have it on everything I own. My iphone, laptop and Desktop. But I recently bought the acer chromebook. I would love to be able to use it on my new chromebook. I use logos 4 for everything.

Still hoping that something more robust will be developed for the web...