Mark Barnes or someone

Sam West

please explain to me what you mean by "you can not only search within words, but within CHRS"

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Robert Pavich

he means that "how many characters" is a search operator

"love WITHIN 10 CHAR hate"

Will find the word love where it occurs with 10 letters of the word hate.

Praiser

Also see http://community.logos.com/forums/p/26183/193745.aspx#193745 and http://community.logos.com/forums/p/25417/188253.aspx#188253

Sam West

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/251947#Comment_251947

i am very thick headed. please explain to me how i can use this. it looks interesting.

Praiser

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/251952#Comment_251952

If you go to the wiki at http://wiki.logos.com/Detailed_Search_Help#Proximity_Operators you will find:

Proximity Operators

Sometimes you may want more control than AND. Logos also offers proximity operators BEFORE, AFTER, WITHIN xx WORDS, and NEAR. They are mostly self-explanatory and are used like this:

Christ BEFORE Jesus – search for articles (Basic search) or bible verses (Bible search) that contain the word ‘Christ’ before the word ‘Jesus’.
Jesus AFTER Christ – a different way of expressing the same search.
Jesus BEFORE 2 WORDS Christ – search for articles (Basic search) or bible verses (Bible search) that contain the word ‘Christ’ one or two words before the word ‘Jesus’. It will return “Jesus Christ” (one word before) or “Jesus the Christ” (two words before). It would not return “Jesus is the Christ”, because that is three words before.
Christ AFTER 2 WORDS Jesus – a different way of expressing the same search.
Jesus BEFORE 3-5 WORDS Christ – search for articles/verses that contain the word Jesus three, four, or five words before the word Christ. It would find “Jesus was the Christ” (3 words before), and “Jesus who is called Christ” (4 words before), but not “Jesus the Christ” (2 words before). If you want a search for words an EXACT number of words before/after another one, you should do something like this: the BEFORE 2-2 WORDS day, which would find “the first day”, “the last day”, etc., but not “the day” or “the very next day”.
Jesus WITHIN 5 WORDS love – searches for the word Jesus within five words of the word ‘love’. In this case it doesn’t matter whether ‘Jesus’ comes after ‘love’, or before ‘love’. All that matters is that there are no more than four words between them (so they are therefore within 5 words).
Jesus WITHIN 20 CHARS love – searches for the word Jesus within 20 characters of the word ‘love’. AFTER and BEFORE can also be used with CHARS.
Jesus NEAR love – NEAR means “within 48 characters” (which is about 10 words). In Basic search NEAR also searches nearby footnotes (unlike BEFORE, AFTER or WITHIN).

Proximity operators use the same article sizes as boolean operators, above.

Using Characters (CHARS) in proximity searches operate the same way and are even mentioned in the description above.

steve clark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/251955#Comment_251955

Nice description Praiser!

One note to your above explanation :

The above searches will search only within a single Bible verse when you use Bible search method.

But if you use the Basic method and select a Bible version(s) as the resources to be searched using the Basic method, then your above search will be done on a whole Bible chapter.

i mention this because you are describing a proximity and that proximity is relative to the method of your search.

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/251959#Comment_251959

Great answers, guys! [:)] I am obviously no longer needed. I shall happily slip into obscure retirement! [:D]

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/251964#Comment_251964

Great answers, guys! I am obviously no longer needed. I shall happily slip into obscure retirement!

No, no, please keep cranking out your videos! [:)]

Jack Caviness

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/251964#Comment_251964

I shall happily slip into obscure retirement!

I have retired 4 times. It's not all that special. [8-|]

Besides, we still need you here (Philippians 1:22–24).

steve clark

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/251964#Comment_251964

I am obviously no longer needed. I shall happily slip into obscure retirement!

Brother Mark,

your brothers & sisters on the Logos Forum need your wisdom in using Logos to aid in the training of the Saints. So keep on pressing towards the prize until our Lord appears or calls you home!

Thank You very much for your service to us!

Wild Eagle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/251964#Comment_251964

Great answers, guys! I am obviously no longer needed. I shall happily slip into obscure retirement!

Mark you talked me the most, don't even dare to think about retirement [:)]. Thanks a lot for your videos. I always wait for the new ones. Million Thanksss....

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/251964#Comment_251964

I shall happily slip into obscure retirement!

Retirement is great - You'll have more time to make videos and perhaps create online documentation for Logos for free.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/251952#Comment_251952

i am very thick headed. please explain to me how i can use this. it looks interesting.

As it appears that Mark is retiring[:)] I'll mention why you would use CHARS in preference to WORDS.

If you are interested in the title "Lord Jesus Christ" you could use Lord BEFORE 2 Chars “Jesus Christ” as it will find the string with no punctuation between Lord and “Jesus Christ" eg. it excludes "Lord, Jesus Christ" in 2 verses of the ESV.

But note that footnote markers are also counted as CHARS.

Jonathan Watson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/251964#Comment_251964

I am obviously no longer needed. I shall happily slip into obscure retirement!

Nonsense! I work at Logos and I still use your videos