Is there a commentary/commentaries that reflect the views ofthe Pentecostal belief in Logos. Or maybe some of you would recommend somethingoutside of Logos.
Thanks
Gordon Fee on 1 Corinthians is an obvious choice. He's also written several other commentaries scattered over various series. There are other Pentecostal books in Logos, but many of them are doctrinal, rather than commentaries.
You may notice that Logos have tagged some of their resources according to the christian group they may respresent - just look on the product page:
Note that there are a number of pentecostal resources:
this includes three commentaries that may or may not be helpful for you
Gordon Fee's commentary would most probably not be regarded as "pentecostal" per se, but as a scholarly commentary from an evangelical perspective (haven't checked Logos' tagging on this, though). I don't know this work, but the German translation of "How to read the bible for all it's worth", which does not read as a specifically pentecostal book either.
Maybe the other way round would be more beneficial: assuming that there are pentecostal publishing houses, identifying commenatries there and checking whether these are available from Logos.
Mick
Is there a commentary/commentaries that reflect the views ofthe Pentecostal belief in Logos. Or maybe some of you would recommend somethingoutside of Logos. Thanks
Jack Hayford's New Spirit Filled Life Bible should fit. It's predecessor Spirit Filled Life Study Bible is a Bible Commentary & the new one should be from its similar description (Bible Notes are treated as Commentaries eg. MacArthur Study Bible).
Pentecostal/Charismatic commentaries are more rare than hen's teeth. Here's a link to a publisher.
Logion Press
Gordon Fee's commentary would most probably not be regarded as "pentecostal" per se
Fee doesn't accept tongues as initial evidence of Spirit baptism, but other than that he's a pretty straight-down-the-line Pentecostal, and in my view that comes across pretty clearly in his comments on chapters 12-14 of 1 Corinthians.
wordsearch bible software offers the complete biblical library which was edited by stanley horton. These might be worth you taking a look at. several of th N.T. commentaries were written by Horton himself such as Luke, Acts, and Revelation.
Mark,
maybe I was less clear in my short comment than I should have been, thanks for following up. From what I've read about Fee's NICNT commentary on Corinthians, it is clear that he follows a non-cessationist reading of the text (which is necessary, but maybe not sufficient to label it as "reflecting the views of pentecostal belief") as well as an egalitarian reading with regards to the "women in the church" question (don't know where pentecostal belief stands on that one). However, most will perceive this as a volume within a conservative evangelical series, not as an explicitly "pentecostal" apologetic. Fee himself admits his heritage (snip from amazon's look into the book)
According to what I have read, many people praise Fee for top-scholarly conservative evangelical exegesis - even D.A. Carson in his Survey of NT Commentaries, who admits coming to different results on some topics, ranks Fee's book as the top general commentary on 1 Cor (position tied with Garland's BECNT, whom Carson doesn't discuss). So many people seem to recognize Fee's book as an evangelical commentary, however it is surely supportive to some pentacostal points of view.
So many people seem to recognize Fee's book as an evangelical commentary, however it is surely supportive to some pentacostal points of view.
Fee identifies himself as a Pentecostal, but this begs the question "What is a Pentecostal?" Is it a set of practices, a set of beliefs, an historical movement, all (some) of the above? As a Christian Reformed Pastor fully engaged in the use of all the spiritual gifts & practices mentioned in Scripture (but not part of the historical Pentecostal movement), I've heard some AG's & 4-Square say our congregation is more Pentecostal than their church. I think this is about practice, not theology. In terms of theology, one used to be able to say that Pentecostalism requires that tongues is the initial sign of the infilling of the Spirit. Speaking with those who self-identify as Pentecostals, this is no longer universally the case. In fact, in some (self-identified) Pentecostal churches the use of 'extra-ordinary gifts' is either discouraged, or they are simply falling away out of disuse.
This is to say nothing of the charismatic movement and so-called "Third Wave of the Holy Spirit," which shares many common points with Pentecostalism. Further, some Pentecostals have embraced some of the unique strands of these movements, making the uniqueness of contemporary Pentecostalism even harder to nail down.
In our day the term "Pentecostal" has come to mean so many things that it is almost impossible to answer the original question of this thread, without simply defining the term in a limited (and therefore imprecise) way -- as in those that self-identify as Pentecostals.
From a (non-cessationist) Reformed perspective, I'm convinced that any honest treatment of the Word will be useful for Pentecostals as well as non-Pentecostals, in that such will tend to affirm those points of our respective theological traditions and heritage that conform to Scripture and make us uncomfortable with those aspects that aren't quite fully in tune with the teaching of Scripture. Indeed, I've found this to be the case personally as I wrestle with the issues of Spirit-empowered ministry in a tradition that has not given much thought to the idea. And though Pentecostals (even more than Fundamentalists and some Evangelicals) have tended to disparage scholarship, this has changed and many are finding a great deal of help in the Biblically honest scholarly materials that are available from other perspectives. This also explains why there are so few scholarly works by Pentecostals such as the original poster requests (thankfully, this is changing).
I want to go to your church, Richard. Where are you located?
the complete biblical library which was edited by stanley horton. These might be worth you taking a look at. several of th N.T. commentaries were written by Horton himself such as Luke, Acts, and Revelation.
Stanley Horton wrote a commentary on 1 Peter that was excellent. I would love to see more from him in Logos. Also, Fee's I Corinthians is part of the NICNT series. He also has several other Commentaries - these would be great to have in Logos. And he wrote a book called "God's Empowering Presence" which is his work on the Holy Spirit in Paul's Writings. This would be IMHO a must for us. There are also some good treatments of the history of the gifts surveyed during different periods of church history. (I am away from my bookshelves now so I can't give titles/authors).
Richard: Your [frequently quoted] comment is appreciated here as well. Take this as another "Amen".
The words, "scholarship" and "pentecostal" did not go together too well in years past. Sad, but true. But, this is changing and we can hope to see the fruits of this change reflected in quality resources issued- and hopefully offered in Logos - in the days ahead.
A great biblical commentary for Pentecostals is the PENTECOSTAL COMMENTARY
Segments have been written by renowned scholar Gordon Fee Editor John Christopher Thomas
Unfortunately this is NOT avaiable in Logos but CBD carries it
A lot of discussion of Gordon Fee on here (Philippians, 1 Corinthians, 1&2 Timothy, Titus, Revelation). He is not the only Pentecostal commentator, however. Craig Keener has commentaries on Matthew, John, Acts, Romans, Galatians, 1 Peter, & Revelation. Stanley M. Horton (mentioned by some others) has commentaries on Isaiah, Acts, 1&2 Corinthians, Revelation. C. Stevens Schell from the foursquare tradition also has commentaries on Acts & Romans.
Thank you for your work.
i'm interested in Pentecostal views in Logos. I would like to know someone that can steer me in my studies on the Bible. I am an Assembly of God member I'm 74 yrs old and taught adult SS for 35 yrs. I have been a Deacon for as many years. I go to Mount Morris Gospel Tabernacle in Mount Morris Pa. we are just completing a $3 mil Family life center and renovating our sanctuary for 900K I am so excited. I say this to say we are on the move, and I am HUNGRY to get deeper into God's Word. Can you steer me into some solid commentary. Pentecostal views and authors/commentators.
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He is not the only Pentecostal commentator, however. Craig Keener has commentaries on...
He comes under Baptist denomination in Passage Guide (and is ordained as a Baptist).
The first 2 in the search are good 👍 https://www.logos.com/search?query=A%20pentecostal%20commentary&sortBy=Relevance&limit=60&page=1&ownership=all&geographicAvailability=availableToMe
The Revelation volume stays clear from the dispensational school of thought, which is good 👍 Here’s an excerpt:
“Pentecostals have tended to read Revelation through Futurist “glasses,” though sometimes taking Historicist views on board. This is partly due to dispensationalist influence, but it has more to do with the expectation of the first modern Pentecostals of an imminent return of Christ following the “latter rain” of the Holy Spirit. However, dispensationalism has proved difficult to accommodate within a Pentecostal worldview because of its negative expectations regarding the church, its hostility to spiritual gifts today, and its rejection of Pentecostal expectations of restoration of the church to its original purity and power.”
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Yes, it is true Craig Keener is baptist - but charismatic baptist, so is in line with Pentecostal thought.