Custom Coded Bible Reading Plans

TCBlack
TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭
edited December 2024 in English Forum

There are a few Bible reading plans mentioned in the WIKI which work just as they are.  Still others are complex enough to require hand coding, such as the M'Cheyne plan which is now coded into the Reading Plan (thank you!).

Please limit your posts to just the name of the reading plan, and it's brief description. Please  Let general discussion of a plan be in another thread. 

Thank you.

WIKI link: Reading Plans

 

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  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

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  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,980 ✭✭✭

    ESV 40 (big picture) day reading plan http://community.logos.com/forums/t/21393.aspx

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  • Ron
    Ron Member Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭

    [Y]

    Yes please!

    If we could set up our reading plans based on number of chapters per day instead of number of days until finished, then some of these would work a lot better.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,214

    The ecumenic bible reading plan of the German "Ökumenische Arbeitsgemeinschaft Bibellesen". It's 2011 version you'll find attached 6648.BLP_2011.pdf

    The reading plans of ÖAB have one text per day and break the continuous reading with a Psalm on Sunday. They will lead within four years through the NT and within eight years through the OT, the NT reading somewhat follows the church calendar (nativity stories around Christmas, passion around Easter). This ecumenic reading plan is followed by Christians in (at least German speaking parts of) Europe from various traditions: roman catholics, mainline protestant as well as evangelical free churches. There are dozens (or hundreds?) of books every year that provide exegetical or devotional input to these readings.

    One source of popularity may be that this reading plan is featured in the "Losungen" (watchwords, the daily texts of the Moravian Brothers).

    I contemplated to create this Reading Plan with the instructions on the wiki page, but haven't had much progress so far. Actually I intended to do the watchwords as well, but these are two or more individual verses per day, i.e. a lot of manual input and XML editing...

    Mick

     

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  • Tobias Lampert
    Tobias Lampert Member Posts: 761 ✭✭

    The ecumenic bible reading plan of the German "Ökumenische Arbeitsgemeinschaft Bibellesen". It's 2011 version you'll find attached 6648.BLP_2011.pdf

    The reading plans of ÖAB have one text per day and break the continuous reading with a Psalm on Sunday. They will lead within four years through the NT and within eight years through the OT, the NT reading somewhat follows the church calendar (nativity stories around Christmas, passion around Easter). This ecumenic reading plan is followed by Christians in (at least German speaking parts of) Europe from various traditions: roman catholics, mainline protestant as well as evangelical free churches. There are dozens (or hundreds?) of books every year that provide exegetical or devotional input to these readings.

    One source of popularity may be that this reading plan is featured in the "Losungen" (watchwords, the daily texts of the Moravian Brothers).

    I contemplated to create this Reading Plan with the instructions on the wiki page, but haven't had much progress so far. Actually I intended to do the watchwords as well, but these are two or more individual verses per day, i.e. a lot of manual input and XML editing...

    Mick

    [Y][Y][Y] I'd like to see these as custom Reading Plans in Logos! The Daily Watchwords are a major component of Christian spirituality and Scripture contemplation all over Europe and in many other places around the globe. Thinking about this, it would be really great to have the Daily Watchwords (along with everything the print editions contain, meaning not only the OT and NT verses but the reading plans etc. as well) as resources in Logos 4. If there are other Logos users interested, I could write the publisher and make a suggestion here in the forums.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,952

    Do these repeat every x-number of years or are they always new? If they repeat they could be made into lectionaries.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Tobias Lampert
    Tobias Lampert Member Posts: 761 ✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    Do these repeat every x-number of years or are they always new? If they repeat they could be made into lectionaries.

    There's a new "Daily Watchwords" edition every year, as the OT "Watchwords" are actually chosen by lot annually (which happens in Herrnhut). The NT verses are chosen intentionally to match or complete these verses or show other aspects of them from a NT perspective, while the oecumenical reading plans follow a specific cycle of several years. And then there are prayers and hymns meant for every single day, a Bible verse for every week etc. So the reading plans could be made into lectionaries, but not the "Daily Watchwords" as a whole - I guess the only way making them available in Logos for being used in the way they are meant to would be by being published as a 1:1 edition for Logos by the Moravian Church itself.

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  • George Somsel
    George Somsel Member Posts: 10,150 ✭✭✭


    MJ. Smith said:

    Do these repeat every x-number of years or are they always new? If they repeat they could be made into lectionaries.

    There's a new "Daily Watchwords" edition every year, as the OT "Watchwords" are actually chosen by lot annually (which happens in Herrnhut). The NT verses are chosen intentionally to match or complete these verses or show other aspects of them from a NT perspective, while the oecumenical reading plans follow a specific cycle of several years. And then there are prayers and hymns meant for every single day, a Bible verse for every week etc. So the reading plans could be made into lectionaries, but not the "Daily Watchwords" as a whole - I guess the only way making them available in Logos for being used in the way they are meant to would be by being published as a 1:1 edition for Logos by the Moravian Church itself.


    Am I correct in understanding that these "Daily Watchwords" are centrally chosen?  If not, it might be possible to chose them by a pseudo-random number generation.

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  • Tobias Lampert
    Tobias Lampert Member Posts: 761 ✭✭

    Am I correct in understanding that these "Daily Watchwords" are centrally chosen?

    That's correct - the intention behind this is, of course, that Christians from all over the world and from very different background (currently the "Daily Watchwords" are available in about 50 languages, there are over 1 million copies sold every year in Germany alone) share the same Bible readings, weekly Bible verses etc., so there's no sense in chosing them randomly. And it's not the OT verses alone - it's the whole picture that makes the "Daily Watchwords" what they are: chosing the complementary NT verses alone requires some serious theological reflection, chosing the prayers and hymns as well and so on.

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  • Tobias Lampert
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  • MJ. Smith
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    It sounds to me as if the PBB should have a date tag. Then, with the approval of the Moravian church these could easily be created and shared. I'll ask Logos about dates.

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  • Tobias Lampert
    Tobias Lampert Member Posts: 761 ✭✭

    MJ. Smith said:

    It sounds to me as if the PBB should have a date tag. Then, with the approval of the Moravian church these could easily be created and shared. I'll ask Logos about dates.

    That's an idea, yes. Like I said, there are some other elements in the print edition that are missing in these online samples, so there'd be a lot of work left. But it would do for a beginning!

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,214

    Somehow Theolobias' link above doesn't work. Maybe I will scan in something from my paper copy. The versions differ in various languages/editions. I assume, the Reading List is different as well from the German version. A typical printed page in the US version is explaned here: http://www.moravian.org/daily_texts/2010UsingTheDailyTexts.pdf

    The problem in creating this as a real Logos lectionary (which would be the best way to do it) will be the licence issue. You have:

    • the selection of OT and NT "watchword" readings per day, which is copyrighted AFAIK by the Moravian church in Germany, but which they give away to reach millions of readers globally. 
    • the selection of "watchwords" for weeks, months and years, which is copyrighted by ÖAB, but again that's no issue
    • the selected texts themselves - these are copyrighted by the Bible societies, but that's no issue for Logos users, as we are entitled to our versions
    • the selected "third readings" (hymns, prayers etc) comes from a multitude of books, so they secure copyrights for their printed edition, but can't give the texts themselves away. These will also differ in the respective languages, I believe.     

    You may find textfiles (and links to free applications) here: http://www.losungen.de/download/download.php

    I'd really like to see this in Logos!

    Mick

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,952

    The problem in creating this as a real Logos lectionary

    It seems to me that if the hymns, prayers etc. were to be included the proper form would be the calendar devotional. If it is simply references then the proper form would be a lectionary. I've asked in the beta forum for the date format. I'll email Lou over the weekend and see what the possibilities are for a PBB created lectionary.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Tobias Lampert
    Tobias Lampert Member Posts: 761 ✭✭

    Somehow Theolobias' link above doesn't work.

    Doesn't work for me either - you have to click on "Watchwords" at the page's bottom and then select a specific date. I just couldn't figure out how to get a proper link for it.

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  • MJ. Smith
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    Mark Barnes has figured out the tags for a calendar devotional. I'll try it out later this afternoon and post the results.

    UPDATE: I haven't gotten it to behave like a daily devotional but as I read the promotional material more carefully, it may be that the first line of readings in the English edition may be a lectionary (reads through Psalms in one year, Bible in two) while the Watchwords are a daily devotional. I'll continue to play with it as Logos upgrades the PBB function.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,952

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    It turns out to be quite easy although this test version shows a set translation in the text and the hover over which uses your preferred Bible works only in the PBB not on the home page. In this test I included the hymns because they are old enough to be out of copyright. I'll continue to try to determine what is necessary to  get them to work like a lectionary.

     

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Douglas
    Douglas Member Posts: 688 ✭✭

    Yes

    Yes please!

    If we could set up our reading plans based on number of chapters per day instead of number of days until finished, then some of these would work a lot better.

     

    Good Idea!  [Y]

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    TCBlack said:

    There are a few Bible reading plans mentioned in the WIKI which work just as they are.  Still others are complex enough to require hand coding, such as the M'Cheyne plan which is now coded into the Reading Plan (thank you!).

    Please limit your posts to just the name of the reading plan, and it's brief description. Please  Let general discussion of a plan be in another thread. 

    Thank you.

    WIKI link: Reading Plans

     

    Any ability to add 1 single proverb a day would be great. As far as I can tell there is no way to do this in Logos. The proverbs tool already separates them all out, so it doesn't seem like a huge stretch to custom code this into a reading plan.

  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    Ron said:

    If we could set up our reading plans based on number of chapters per day instead of number of days until finished, then some of these would work a lot better.

    This seems to be an essential aspect of reading plans that is not there. Ability for pericopes per day/session would be amazing as well!

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 16,214

    Note that you are responding to a thread that's nearly as old as the pyramids. The current implementation of Reading Plans in L6 allows for custom plans (so the ÖAB bible reading plan discussed above exists as a shared plan, for 2015 and 2016, and the Moravian Daily Texts are available as a PB file you can build as your own daily lectionary, even with dynamic text to select the bible of your choice, also for 2015 and 2016). 

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  • Liam
    Liam Member Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭

    Aah, didn't notice that.

    It seems that some of these requests would still be relevant, especially the proverbs reading plan. Much better than having to enter the 500 some odd references into the custom reading plan. It's good to know that we can get the others though!