Should I purchase Logos for my iPod Touc and iPad 1?

One of the biggest advantage of Logos Mobile App over others are the Bible Word Studies and Passage Guides. Check out the screen shots....

http://www.logos.com/mobile/iphone

or

http://www.logos.com/mobile/ipad

And of course, the desktop software is just awesome.

And one thing that nobody has mentioned that's worth mentioning...if you decide you'd like to give Logos a try, they have a generous 30 no questions asked return policy...couple that with the "only pay the first payment now" payment plan and the fact that it's a download NOW sort of situation....and you can try it for very little cash....decide if it fits your needs...or not.

You could be up and running tomorrow, and have a whole month to return (which only amounts to calling them and having them reverse the charge on your card....you don't have to physically mail anything back to them at all...it's very convenient.

If I buy the Scholars bundle, will everything there be available on both my PC and my iPad and iTouch?

Around 80% of PC resources are available on iOS devices. The number is creeping up, and I'm pretty sure that all new resources will be available on iOS.

Does Logos have plans for the NABRE bible?

No that I've heard.

I could not see any Notes function on my iTouc. Any news when this is coming?

No news yet, but it is planned, and I think being actively worked on. The intention is to have notes sync between PC and iOS.

What's "community pricing"? There is one title that is community pricing. What pricing and when can it be purchased (it's the Catholic Encyclopedia).

There's long explanation here: http://www.logos.com/communitypricing/about

The short version is that Logos work out how much it costs them to build a resource. Let's say $10,000 to make the math easy. Then they let users decide how much they're willing to pay. If 10 users offer to pay $1,000 they'll build the resource, or 100 offer $100, or 1,000 offer $10 and so on. If 700 people offer $10 and 300 offer $20 and 250 offer $40, then everyone would pay $8, because that's the cheapest it could be made for. CP resources can take a long time to reach the threshold, and some never do. They often take another 6 months or so to be produced.

Does Logos have plans for the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible NT?

Again, not to my knowledge, although they've released announced some other Ignatius Press offerings.

Are there any demos or screen shots of Kittel on the iPad / iTouch. I would love to see what it gives you.

See above.

How do foot notes show up. For example the NAB has commentary notes in it. In Laridian they are in-line. In Olivetree they have a footnote number, hit it and a pop-up box comes up, or it opens in the main window or split window (user definable). How does Logos handle such things? I cannot tell with the free version.

Notes are always pop-up in Logos.

Personally, I use both Olivetree and Logos. Overall, my advice would be that Olivetree is a better app unless:

• You want desktop access to your resources without paying again.
• You need resources that only Logos offer.
• You have frequent online access and plan to use the Passage Guide, etc.

I'm really not sure I'd pay the price of scholars just for the functionality I get with the mobile app. But if I had a laptop/desktop too…

Thank you everyone for taking the time to answer some of my questions. That has been a great help. I think most of my questions have been answered. Here's my thoughts:

• Cannot go wrong with a 30 day trial.
• $260-ish for the Bible Study package is a lot in one go, but there is so much in there. I was thinking of adding Kittel to my OliveTree software. That would cost about $170, but it is included as part of the Scholars package. So, the extra $90 gives me (just lisitng what is useful to me) a Desktop package, loads of maps and timelines, Edersheim and the possibility of adding later the NJB, Cantena Aurea, Vatican II docs, and a few others.
• So the only downside is that I would have to buy the NAB, and Logos does not do the NABRE as yet.
• So price is not the issue.
• Another downside is no notes.... as yet... but it looks from the comments that it is almost here.
• Also, perhaps some books cannot be downloaded to the ipad... but minimal and certainly not the ones that I am interested in.

Looks like a "no brainer" as they say. Thanks everyone for your help.

I will let you know how I get on with the purchase. I might just wait until the notes ability comes out...

God Bless,

Richard.

 

Firstly, I don't want you to be disappointed so, if my suspicion that the NJB you reference is the New Jerusalem Bible, you won't find it in Logos.  Secondly, why wait for the notes functionality?  If (I assume when) they add it, you will get it even though you got in before its release.

If I am reading the Bible, say the KJV, can I tap on a word and pull up Kittel?

If you are online, you can do this (it's a two step operation, you run a Bible Word Study from the KJV, then access the lexicon from the BWS).

Or would I need to know the Greek and then look it up separately (i.e. go into kittel and then pull up the definition).

That's what you need to do if you're offline. You currently don't get access to reverse interlinear data whilst offline (we're hoping that will change, but there's no official word yet).

It can sometimes take about an hour for priority changes made in Logos 4 to sync to the servers that run the Bible Word Study.

Really !  I wasn't aware of that and hadn't noticed since it seemed that when I prioritized a resource it went into effect immediately.

cross referencing other resources, e.g. JFB, Eastons, Naves, are so much better in this other program. From my trialling out Logos on my iTouch and iPad, it was not a easy to see the relevant hits amongst so many unless specifically selecting one resource, then selecting another. I have no doubt that Logos will work on this.

Could you be clearer what you're trying to achieve here? I can't quite visualise what you're attempting.

I would love the resource hits to come up in pop-ups.

From the search results? If so, then you're right, this isn't possible in Logos.

Reversing backwards was not as easy.

If you swipe down in reading view, then tap and hold the left arrow in the top left corner, you'll get your history. It's also available on the 'More' tab, in a slightly different format.

The desktop (what a great tool from watching the videos) is not what I need.

Is is a great tool! It's worth remembering that if you will have need in the future, it's there for you. With Logos you can also access all your iPhone resources at www.biblia.com from any computer.

other vendor

Don't feel you're not allowed to mention the other vendor. Logos are quite happy with other discussion the relative merits and demerits of competitors so long as it is done in a good spirit and not in the spirit of 'Don't use Logos! XXXReader is much better - and now 50% off with this coupon'!!!

For what it's worth, I use both OliveTree's BibleReader and Logos, and find myself using both for different things, because like you say, it's a compromise. (Though if Logos iPhone app had been around when I bought OliveTree, I probably would have just stuck with Logos.)

Bible Word Study will use your top prioritized resources from Logos 4. It can sometimes take about an hour for priority changes made in Logos 4 to sync to the servers that run the Bible Word Study.

TDNT has been prioritized over BDAG since last night in my library and I'm still getting only BDAG and DBL Greek on my Ipod Touch's Bible Word Study. using Right click>Lookup on the PC for the same word brings up TDNT. I'm using the current PC Beta.

I will give myself a "cooling off" period just to make sure. Once committed to a few hundred dollars of resources, then it is not easy to go back.

Always very wise.