Logos for Android 1.0 Beta 3/4

Dave Dunkin (Logos)

http://downloads.logos.com/Android/Logos/beta/index.html

Improved

More responsive UI
The verse picker displays correctly on tablets

Fixed

Instability when offline
Beta 4: Crash when rotating while the Sign In screen is showing and the app is still initializing

Known Issues

Popups do not display Greek and Hebrew correctly
Right-to-left text (especially Hebrew) does not display correctly
Poor network connection may show an error message
Network connections from behind a login page are not supported (e.g. a hotel or other hotspot that requires login)
Opening and navigating in a book cannot be cancelled
The app will crash if there is no SD card
Links inside footnotes are not clickable
Media resources, e.g. 1000 Bible Images, do not download correctly
Some apocryphal book abbreviations are clipped in the verse picker
Some apocryphal books cannot be navigated to through the verse picker

Please report any issues with this beta in new threads.

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Comments

Robert Pavich

It is smoother...

It installed on my Transformer just fine.

Andrew Phillips

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264606#Comment_264606

We really need a new interface
http://community.logos.com/forums/t/34483.aspx Like this

When I open it, i dont want to stare at my library.

Brian Huddleston

I put it on my nook color and it is a lot more responsive. Thanks for the new beta!

Ben Stegink

Just installed on my HTC EVO Shift 4G - running Android 2.3 Gingerbread, smooth upgrade and seems much more responsive for me as well.

Rob Kuefner

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264704#Comment_264704

I updated it on my Droid... which is about 1 1/2 old... the first two betas had a noticible delay when advancing to the next page... I've used it on a couple of hospital calls just because there are some times when I don't have my Bible with me, now that I need something a little bigger than my old 6pt pocket bible... the delay was a little troubling... I thought maybe since I'm using the first Droid and not a newer smart phone maybe that was why... but with beta 3 it is much more responsive and the page advance (turn) is much improved.

I did have one time when I was in the app when my Droid went to it's startup screen, and at first, Logos app icon wasn't in my list of apps when it restarted... but after a few minutes, it reappeared. First real hard stop or crash I've experienced so far... I was turning pages to see the progress and it seemed to lock up a little and then just restarted... I'll keep experimenting. I also was curious about battery life while running.... it seemed to lose a lot of battery life when this reset occured, but it was toward the end of the day... I'll keep monitoring that...

Having said that, for my purposes, the Logos Android App is exactly what I needed it to be... I will mainly use it for reading, particulary at times when I'm somewhere with time to kill and don't have anything else along, like a laptop or physical book or my kindle... and this way I don't have to waste it shooting birds at pigs... though it's fun and a little addictive, I'd rather be reading something edifying... I'm sure if I had a tablet, I'd want a more features like highlighting, notes, etc... but I don't have one at this point, and I'm not sure I can justify getting one right now... I'll probably be waiting to see the next generation of tablets, and whether I'd go for something running, Android, IOS or Windows 8 when it comes out... I'm actually thinking from what I'm reading on Win8, that a tablet with a enough memory to have Logos running on it would be the way to go in about a year or so.. I'm patient... though I love new technology... I can't always justify being an early adopter from a Christian stewardship standpoint, especially when Logos gets a fair amount of my investment for resources anyway!

How's that for a rambling post...

Robert Pavich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264744#Comment_264744

and this way I don't have to waste it shooting birds at pigs

That drew a chuckle. [:D]

GLR

Thanks Dave,

Verse list improvement on tablet is great! And it is much faster and smoother.

Lots of good suggestions but you are doing very well--- thanks.

Alan Charles Gielczyk

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264887#Comment_264887

Installed fine on my Samsung Epic rooted 2.2.1

The page turning is much improved, many thanks!

Bob Deacon

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264906#Comment_264906

Works great on my HTC Desire. Thanks!

AA7163

Yes, finally an open Beta!

Rich Kauzlarich

Just downloaded this and looks like it will be fun to explore. Thanks to Logos!

Donald Minshew

Installed fine on my Sansung Captivate running Froyo. I like access to my library like this. There does not seem to be a way to adjust text size; make notes, etc. but it is great to have access! Like the fact that you can download and make books resident on the phone.

Pam Larson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265266#Comment_265266

Installed fine on my T-Mobile G2 Android version 2.2.

Jeff Beard

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265298#Comment_265298

Installed easily on my new Galaxy. Android version 2.2. Also looking forward to taking this out for a spin, kicking the tires, and finding out what's under the hood.

Harry R Rowe

Installed on Droid X fine

John Sheeley

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265312#Comment_265312

Good on my Droid X too!

Mike Gehl

A HUGE suggestion...

In my opinion, it's an absolute MUST that some sort of "known issues" list be included on the main Android for Logos front page. That would eliminate forum posts about no NIV or why the Hebrew isn't displaying correctly. These are all in the list that early testers had access to (not to mention this very thread), but it's not easy for new testers to find.

Thanks!

Mike

AA7163

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265405#Comment_265405

Yes, Michael's post. So many questions are answered in the other thread, but most people aren't looking at it.

Robert M. Warren

Logos Folks:

Thanks!

This application is going to be really special. I'm beginning to see how my investment in resources (certainly very modest compared to other forum users), plus an Android with a fat data plan, is going to payoff.

Brian Flynn

No matter how many programs I have removed from my phone. It still states I don't have enough room. I have 35MB's available. How big is this program?

Daryl Musson

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!!!!! Loaded on new HTC ThunderBolt!! Did I mention thank you?!

Joe Hicks

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265493#Comment_265493

Smooth on my thunderbolt as well....thanks

T. Ann Reed

I think we could do without all the graphics on the library page. A text title and author would be enough. The graphics seem to slow things down. Thanks for developing this feature I can tells it's going to be an amazing tool.

God Bless

Don Randolph

Installed on Droid X with Gingerbread 2.3. No problems. Largest app (even beats Google Earth - 16+Mb versus 15.3Mb) when it comes to space requirements, but does not even show up on battery usage info page. Good work. [Y]

Robert Pavich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265478#Comment_265478

No matter how many programs I have removed from my phone. It still states I don't have enough room. I have 35MB's available. How big is this program?

From another post after yours:

Largest app (even beats Google Earth - 16+Mb versus 15.3Mb)

Pete Elliott

Installed today on Droid X with Android 2.3.3. Works OK. I've been using OliveTree and it is still a little smoother (but doesn't have access to my Logos library!). The Logos app needs to go ahead and keep the screen alive. Mine goes dark after 15 seconds. I could adjust the default display settings, but it would be nicer if the app told the screen to stay up (like the Kindle, Olivetree, and other apps).

It took awhile to figure out how to navigate inside a book. The tap on the screen method is OK, but perhaps there should also be something in the options. If tapping on the book name in options brought up a chapter/verse chooser that would be intuitive.

David Iversen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265405#Comment_265405

I'm a software professional and eager to help constructively. I'm frustrated at how hard it is to find information on what each beta contains in terms of enhanced facilities and bug fixes. If I find an issue how do I know it's a planned limitation of the release, something new, or something that's been reported before? Conversely, how do I know what positive information Logos is looking for, e.g. on device compatibility.

Has Bugzilla or some similar tool been set up?

Shawn McKinney

I so wish that you could search within the books for phrases, however, I know that it is a beta and I may be asking for too much but that would be nice!

Richard Borden

Installed with no problems on my Samung Galaxy 10.1 Tablet running android 3.1 perfectly! Thanks for getting this software to us android users.

Robert Pavich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265614#Comment_265614

I'm frustrated at how hard it is to find information on what each beta contains in terms of enhanced facilities and bug fixes. If I find an issue how do I know it's a planned limitation of the release, something new, or something that's been reported before? Conversely, how do I know what positive information Logos is looking for, e.g. on device compatibility.

Usually that information is in each release post e.g. "Beta-4 release notes" though it would be good to have a sticky at the top of the forum with all release notes in it.

No bug reporting tool has been set up; usually (from the other beta forum) I found that this format usually works fine:

What the issue is

What you were doing when it happened.

What your phone and OS is

If it's repeatable.

any other suggestions would be welcome...I don't work for Logos so these are just my observations.

Brent A. Bridgeman

Thanks for this great app! I have just a couple of questions that I couldn't find answers to on the forum.

First, I understand there are licensing issues with some resources on mobile devices. Are there plans to obtain these licenses in the future? Some of my most used resources are not available (Bible Knowledge Commentary and Wiersbe's Expostionary Commentary are two).

When you download a resource, where is it saved? To the phone or the SD card? I moved the app to the SD card, but I don't think that included any downloaded resources.

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265780#Comment_265780

Hi Brent - and welcome to the forums

When you download a resource, where is it saved? To the phone or the SD card? I moved the app to the SD card, but I don't think that included any downloaded resources.

There is a related discussion to this at http://community.logos.com/forums/t/34464.aspx which might give some pointers.

Graham

Alex Dolin

Maybe I have made a mistake somehow in installation but on my Xperia X10 I am getting an error message when I open up the app: "Could not copy files to SD card." immedeately upon starting after it "intiallizes."

This is odd because on my Xoom, the app runs very smooth, I am looking forward to the more advanced features soon! Thanks.

Alex

Fabian Lazarte

Thanks so much! Finally a long awaited Android version! I Just installed in my Dell Streak and also in my Acer Iconia A500 Tab and it works great. At least we have access to our libraries but we are waiting for more features like highlight, underline or make notes. A better integration with Honeycomb (like using Honeycomb menu instead of the 2.x.x.x versions) . My Nelson Map module will not open all the maps. Overall very , very happy with this release. Thank you!

Fabian Lazarte

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265478#Comment_265478

It is supposed to occupied 20mb. What phone do you have?

Angelia Ulrich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265493#Comment_265493

It did not download on my brand new minutes old Tbolt. Any ideas? I've tried directly thru the website & thru the blog.logos.com. Thanks.

Rodney Lake

The app installed fine on my Acer Iconia a500 and HTC EVO.

Fabian Lazarte

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265893#Comment_265893

Not familiar with the setting on the Tbolt, but did you enable "unknown source" on the application setting. I know you said you cannot download it, did you try to install Dolphin and use this browser to download? Otherwise download it in your PC (Mac) and put it on your SD or transfer via cable o wirelessly with apps like File Expert or ES File Explorer.

Sture Nordquist

Works fine on Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc. But I found one problem. The Verse picker does not work in the B2000 (Swedish Bible). It works OK in all the other Swedish Bibles. In B2000 it displays "No data." In the iPhone app it works correct.

Rod Groom

Installed and works great on my HTC Incredible, Verizon Wireless, Android 2.2. Despite the small screen on this little phone, I have done a lot of reading on it, especially with the Kindle App and the Olivetree. I am very pleased to get the Logos Beta! It works surprisingly well for so early in the game. I am looking forward to highlighting, bookmarks and favorites. That would make it just about perfect for me! I have been reading N. T. Wright's Scripture and the Authority of God on my Kindle 3 and Kindle app for Android (used Mobipocket Creator to convert). Both allow me to highlight, but of course do not synchronize with Logos, and links are dead. To me, knowing Logos, all of this is coming and more. The future is very bright indeed! Thanks for this app.

Angelia Ulrich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265960#Comment_265960

Yes, I did enable the "unknown source" in settings. I know nothing about Dolphin. Bc of what Logos said, I thot it was only to be download on "your device." I'll have to ask my husband about transferring it via cable or wirelessly w these also unknown-to-me apps. I'm really knew w/an Android! Thanks for your help.

Fabian Lazarte

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/266046#Comment_266046

Dolphin is an app just like the others i mentioned, they are all free and can be dowloaded from the market. dolphin is a browser that has less restrictions than the native one.

AA7163

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/266050#Comment_266050

you can also download the file on your computer and then email it to yourself as an attachment and then when you open the attachment on your device it will download it

Roger Jensen

This is a nice start. I can read my library from either my Samsung Epic 4G phone or my Samsung Galaxy Tab. The tablet is my preferred reader.

I am anxious for more functionality; for example search across my entire library.

I've been waiting for Logos on my Android devices for a long time. Happy to see it finally arriving.

Angelia Ulrich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/266085#Comment_266085

It worked! Thanks so much! Now to get my mp3s from iTunes to the Thunderbolt!

Jedidiah78

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/266131#Comment_266131

This is working nice on the Iconia Tablet! Thanks for the release!

Mark Hoffman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/266133#Comment_266133

Installed on my Droid X, and it took about 17.5Mb. Moved app to SD card, and now it only takes up 4.38 on the main memory. I've posted a quick initial response/review here:

http://bibleandtech.blogspot.com/2011/07/logos-for-android-released.html

Ken Bankston

Evo 4G with latest updates on OS.

I am very excited that this process has begun. I cannot wait for all of the features of the iPhone app to make it to Android. I appreciate your efforts. I am sure you are swamped. Important updates that I feel are needed ASAP:

Navigation
1. Bible navigation like YouVerse
2. Other navigation (settings etc.) like Olive Tree
Linkable Split Screen
In the iPhone demo when the user tapped on the open resource menu options came up that included all other open resources. This is NEEDED!
Font options
1. Size
2. Highlight
Note Taking
Categorize the resources
1. Put all Bibles together in a Bible folder, Commentaries together in a Commentary folder, etc.
2. Put Commentary collections together so that they are either in one folder or are represented by one icon. When selected it will either open to the location of the last selected versified book that is open or initiate a pop up that will ask what location the resource should be opened to.

Doug Banker

To Logos:

Do you recommend trying to install this on a Nook Touch via rooting?

Other recommendations?

Thanks so much, and I hope I can!!!

Ken Shawver

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/264693#Comment_264693

Brian how did you get it on the Nook Color, do you need a SD in the Nook too?