Karl Barth

I know Logos' collection of Barth's dogmatics is unparalleled since it is not even available in print and it is a Princeton Publication, but WOW, have you seen the Hendrickson set's price from CBD? That is a good bang for your buck. Logos can you take the $600 price tag anywhere close to the print addition of Hendrickson's? If not, could you offer Hendrickson's version in pre-pub? I bet it would sell to cheapoes like me

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Greg

I know Logos' collection of Barth's dogmatics is unparalleled since it is not even available in print and it is a Princeton Publication, but WOW, have you seen the Hendrickson set's price from CBD? That is a good bang for your buck. Logos can you take the $600 price tag anywhere close to the print addition of Hendrickson's? If not, could you offer Hendrickson's version in pre-pub? I bet it would sell to cheapoes like me

Hey Christopher,

The print equivalent to Logos' digital edition can be found here. List price is $876.

Even though Logos' edition follows the volume and page numbering of the older edition, they still use the text found in the newer 31-volume set. I think they should convert it over to match the 31 volume set, in my opinion.

That and, like you say, lower the price!

Christopher W. Myers

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265334#Comment_265334

Excellent! Thanks! Logos still says it is not available in print: http://www.logos.com/product/5758/barths-church-dogmatics

I hope it is okay for me to post this link from CBD, but I do it to show and explain the dilemma for the poor logos user like me: http://www.christianbook.com/church-dogmatics-14-volumes/karl-barth/9781598564426/pd/564426?item_code=WW&netp_id=795708&event=ESRCN&view=details

I want Barth's works, I have for a while, but the scholarly version does not fit my budget; I would buy Hendrickson's over Princeton's because of the cost-to-value difference.

So I ask kindly for Hendrickson's version to be considered as perhaps a pre-pub? What do you think?

Tom Reynolds

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265336#Comment_265336

They are exactly the same except that the new 31 volume edition translated all foreign language quotations into English because they assume/know you can't read Latin, etc.

Tom

Greg

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265336#Comment_265336

So I ask kindly for Hendrickson's version to be considered as perhaps a pre-pub? What do you think?

Not a bad idea, but I doubt it would happen. I'd be happier seeing a middle position, one with a much cheaper version of the current offering. Not sure that will happen either. Either way, I'm wondering whether the cheap edition is in the public domain now. I
know Barth died in the 60's, though I'm not sure how that works with
translated works. The new edition would be copy-righted again, I
believe, because it includes new material (the translated sections). If
the old CD is in the public domain, maybe it'll appear online somewhere
and some committed individual can make a PBB out of it!

Since I've heard Barth is very difficult to get into, why don't you buy the cheap hardback edition and see if it'd be worth the investment in Logos? Or better yet, buy this book. I read it a few years back. Even that took me a while to get through. Some of Barth's thought was really good and insightful, but I also found much of it almost painful to endure through. Could just be me though!

Matt Hamrick

Christopher,

The two versions are the same, but Hendrickson is an english only version. So, what is important to you? I got a great deal recently on the Logos version which is the older version filled with greek, latin, and english. When the Hendrickson version was offered to preorder on CBD I put it on my wishlist with the intent to order it when it was released. Depending on what you want to accomplish with it depends on what version you want. If you just want to read Barth and learn what he says get the Hendrickson version from CBD and flip the the pages and do your thing. If you want the older version filled with the original language that works in your LBS then get the one on Logos. In the academic world that I find myself in calls for the older version and it's great to have it in my Logos Bible software.

Greg

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265477#Comment_265477

The two versions are the same, but Hendrickson is an english only version. So, what is important to you? I got a great deal recently on the Logos version which is the older version filled with greek, latin, and english. When the Hendrickson version was offered to preorder on CBD I put it on my wishlist with the intent to order it when it was released. Depending on what you want to accomplish with it depends on what version you want. If you just want to read Barth and learn what he says get the Hendrickson version from CBD and flip the the pages and do your thing. If you want the older version filled with the original language that works in your LBS then get the one on Logos. In the academic world that I find myself in calls for the older version and it's great to have it in my Logos Bible software.

Matthew,

What do you mean that the Hendrickson version is English only? I thought it was a direct copy of the paperback 14 volume set that's been out for years that didn't translate all the Greek and Latin phrases that Barth uses. Does the Hendrickson version translate them or does it leave them untranslated?

Thanks,

Greg

Matt Hamrick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265514#Comment_265514

What do you mean that the Hendrickson version is English only? I thought it was a direct copy of the paperback 14 volume set that's been out for years that didn't translate all the Greek and Latin phrases that Barth uses. Does the Hendrickson version translate them or does it leave them untranslated?

Thanks,

I am sorry Greg. I read it wrong on CBD.. I read this "Moreover, the Hendrickson edition does not include translations of Greek, Latin, and other languages found sporadically throughout the Dogmatics." When I first read this I read it has an english only copy. I read it a couple years ago before it was released. Now I read it different. It doesn't translate the "greek, latin, and other languages" . . . So, now I can say they might be the same books, but one works in Logos and the other is a hardbound book series. What is important to you? Sit in your favorite chair and read the book or be able to look things up quickly with your bible software? I may still buy the hardbound series because of the price. However, I favor the series in my bible software since that is what I mostly use now. I still read books in my favorite chair (currently reading Sherlock Holmes). But all the reference stuff I use is in Logos. I have some of the same reference books on my shelves, but no longer use them to look up anything.

Matt

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/265363#Comment_265363

Since I've heard Barth is very difficult to get into, why don't you buy the cheap hardback edition and see if it'd be worth the investment in Logos? Or better yet, buy this book. I read it a few years back. Even that took me a while to get through. Some of Barth's thought was really good and insightful, but I also found much of it almost painful to endure through. Could just be me though!

I have found Barth really good at times and really painful other times. I tried him years back and told myself I would not read him again. But I decided to give it another try after continually hearing others referring to him over & over. Logos finally had a sale last spring and I went for it.

If the cheap Hendrickson version is like their other affordable editions, it will be a facsimile edition and the typeset will be difficult to read. Good value but nothing like the Logos edition. Just be sure you want to read Barth. For the price you can get several other, more enjoyable writers.