Dear Bob & Logos,
I appreciate and agree with much of what you articulated in this forum. My concern does not lie exactly with what you are offering in literature. Varied theological perspectives should be welcomed to help sharpen our understanding in a wide array of topics....including theology or different theologies. My concern is Logos providing office support for the non-Christian religion of Catholicism. You are now providing support in your offices for the Catholic religion, which is not Christian.
As a Christian, my support of a cult does matter whether I'm Joe Congregation, Senior Pastor, or CEO of a Christian organization. We are first and last Christian and to fracture our Biblical standards stating it is not acceptable for a Christian pastor to support Catholicism, Mormonism, Jehovah Witnesses and Muslims, but as a Christian ministry it is acceptable and permissible to support these cults is a sad commentary on how we American Christian's view our Christianity. Does Biblical teaching and standards stop at the office door? Could the Christian ministry, Focus on the Family hire a Muslim to help promote Islam to spread the Islamic message around the world?
The sobering words of John in his second letter says, "If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. 11 Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work." Is this instruction and warning of the Holy Spirit to be applied only to our personal home, but not applicable for our Christian ministry/business? Is this not to be applied to both to our home residence and our Christian ministry? I think the answer is clear from Scriptures that welcoming another gospel into our home or Christian ministry is unacceptable.
Galatians 1:8 says "8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned! The question is why would any Christian Ministry want to financially support a false religion that is diametrically opposed to Jesus and His Teachings? It truly baffles me.
My concern is that eventually, Logos will become a secularized company that happens to offer Christian materials, and to me that is sad.
Pastor Dan R. Eide
What kind of books does Logos publish?
If there’s one adage businesses follow, it’s “Avoid discussing religion and politics.”
Alas, this people-pleasing path of non-offense is not available to a Bible software company. Not one of the thousands of books available for Logos Bible Software is wholly acceptable to all of our customers. And that includes the Bible: every modern translation has critics who believe it corrupts the truth, and every edition of ancient text is likewise considered suspect by some Christian brother or sister.
It’s been 20 years since the leadership of Logos first confronted the question of whether or not we would make available an electronic book that we didn’t personally agree with theologically. We decided that we would; we believed that our users were interested in personal study, and that they could evaluate each book, author, and publisher on their public statements and reputation, and that it was unnecessary for us to add another theological filter which only reflected our personal positions.
And we discovered there were even some theological disagreements between the three company founders. To sell only what all three of us could recommend without reservation would be to offer few tools at all.
In the years that followed Logos Bible Software grew from a small tool with a few Bible translations into a digital library of wide scope. And it seems like someone has called to complain about every single thing we’ve made available, up to and including the English dictionary. (There are vulgar words in the dictionary, and the mother who called me wanted us to remove them so children couldn’t encounter or look them up.)
I’ve taken angry calls from people who I respect as leaders and teachers. I’ve taken calls from people who I think espouse heresy. And I’ve taken calls from people whose positions simply strike me as silly.
All these people who have objected to content Logos sells have been sincere, passionate about God’s Word and His truth, and wanted nothing but to keep others from inducement to error. I can’t help but respect that, and I am the same way.
I want to speak up for the truth. I want to challenge those who are in error, to call out false doctrine and poor teaching, and to be unashamed of the Gospel. And I am: in my home, in my church, and in one-on-one conversations. Were I called to preach, I would do so with boldness and authority.
But I am called, for now, to an office, not a pulpit. And in this office we create, sell, and support a library. And I believe that a library is a useful thing, and that it is useful even when it contains error, heresy, the silly and the sacred. Because students and teachers alike need access to resources to learn, to grow, to be encouraged and challenged and corrected, and even to refute.
There is room for a church on every corner, and for a book to be published expounding on each theological distinction. It is possible for us as individuals to live and teach without compromise on even the smallest point; we can even maintain a church united in a specific understanding of the truth. But a library can rarely grow beyond a single book without some compromise, and we’d all find it frustrating if each library (or digital library tool) was restricted to one viewpoint.
Are there no limits then? Can a library contain anything?
Well, yes. In a large enough library (or bookstore) you will find the sacred and the obscene, shelved in equanimity. (Check under “Art” to see them side-by-side.) But in many cases a library takes a label that provides a filter: Medical Library, Law Library, Children’s Library. Or, even more specifically, My Library – we each have one.
Logos offers a Bible Library. If the book references the Bible, is related to the Bible, talks about the Bible, or is of use to people who study the Bible, it fits in our library.
But isn’t Logos a Christian company? I believe X, and I’m okay with your having books from the slightly misguided believers in Y, but the people who believe in Z aren’t even Christians!
True. For many values of Z, I agree with you: they’re beyond the bounds of orthodoxy. But Logos is a library, not a church, and the Z-content relates to the Bible and its study, whether you choose to read it for instruction or in order to refute it.
How can we trust Logos then?
Good question. And here is where, for the first time in 20 years, the answer has changed; there are now two parts:
The historic answer: As an electronic bookseller, Logos Bible Software does not represent any theological filter (and never has). You should not assume that every electronic book we sell represents orthodox Christian belief, or any particular understanding of such. What you can be sure of is that content we sell is labeled with the author, publisher, and other descriptive metadata that will help you identify who is responsible for the content. We trust that our users will exercise discernment in their choice of digital content just as they would when walking through a paper library or bookstore, and we will soon be adding support for user reviews and ratings where you can get and share other perspectives beyond the marketing copy from a book’s dust-jacket.
The new, second part: Recently Logos has become something of a publisher. We create and sell Bible Study Magazine, the Lexham English Bible, HD Commentary, Evangelical Exegetical Commentary, and more. It’s fair to ask what theological perspective is behind these publications. And the answer is “Evangelical Christian.” Logos Bible Software is a member of the Evangelical Christian Publishers Association, and we subscribe to the Statement of Faith of the Association (http://www.ecpa.org/?page=about_ecpa).
When Logos Bible Software is the publisher, you can expect that the work does not conflict with this statement of faith. In the future we may choose to publish works aligned with even more detailed statements of faith, in which case they will be clearly indicated.
Logos Bible Software exists to serve everyone who studies the Bible. Our offering a large library of content is not an attempt to minimize the importance of theology or right discernment in even the smallest details. It is rather an affirmation of our belief in sola scriptura (“Scripture alone”): as an organization that sells thousands of books we dare not draw a line and say these 10,000 books are orthodox and these 10,000 are not. We don’t have the courage (or the time or wisdom) to make that call. We draw the line at Scripture, and consider everything beyond a resource to be read and considered with discernment.
For many years Logos has sold Jewish works and the Koran, among other obviously non-Christian resources. When I point this out to customers upset that we are selling this or that book containing poor doctrine they explain that the difference is that no Christian will be accidentally misled by the Koran, which missionaries/apologists/researchers have need to reference, but the book they’re worried about “looks Christian.”
Sadly, there is in our world much that “looks Christian” but which represents something other than the Gospel. We must ourselves be discerning; no pastor or editor or Bible software company can relieve us of the responsibility to rightly divide the word of truth.
Logos Bible Software will soon be offering general Christian books in e-book format. We’ll be partnering with Christian publishers to offer all of their electronic titles for our Vyrso e-Book Reader, which is compatible with Logos Bible Software 4. The number of titles offered for Logos will more than double very quickly. In this new, larger catalog I know you will find many books you have long wanted to have available digitally. I also know that there are authors and titles there that both you and I wish had never been published. But that’s the price of a large library, and a consequence of the fact that we might actually disagree on some particulars, even while finding unity in essentials.
Moving forward we at Logos will try to do an even better job helping you understand what’s what among the books in our library. We will continue to publish Jewish, Muslim, Catholic, Orthodox, and denominationally-specific works. (Along with academic works by atheists and agnostics.) We will, however, make it clear who the author is, who the publisher is, and the faith tradition of the work. Our own publications, however, will continue to reflect an evangelical perspective. (Some technical and academic works from Logos will contain contributions from non-evangelical scholars, but nothing contrary to our statement of faith.)
We hold Scripture in the highest regard and believe in its unique authority. We see it as the job of the Bible student and Bible teacher to interpret and apply God’s Word, and we have intentionally (and consistently) taken the position that as a business we serve Bible study best by offering a large library and powerful tools, rather than a small library reflecting our own (strongly held) theological positions.
I know that some of you agree, but only to a point, believing that this position or that, or this book or that book, are one step too far outside the fold. But I hope that in a world where every modern Bible translation, point of theology, author and pastor has a sincere and thoughtful critic, you can appreciate the value of a library that doesn’t take sides, and come to value Logos Bible Software as a useful tool whose content must still be approached with discernment, like any library, bookstore, radio, television or even the Internet.
I welcome your thoughts and feedback; you can reach me at bob@logos.com or by calling 360-527-1700.
Sincerely,
Bob Pritchett
President/CEO, Logos Bible Software
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My concern is that eventually, Logos will become a secularized company that happens to offer Christian materials, and to me that is sad.
Pastor Dan R. Eide
If I had my wish, Logos would offer every book that Amazon sells. Imagine being able to do searches and lists, etc., for all those books!!!
Optimistically Egalitarian (Galatians 3:28)
If I had my wish, Logos would offer every book that Amazon sells. Imagine being able to do searches and lists, etc., for all those books!!!
Eric if I had my wish, every book, pamplet etc., well maybe not everyone would be published. Some sites I do not want to visit, neither some books and magazines.
I can hear the programmers groaning, thinking about all the new datatype, and linking needed to be created. I am satisfied with just Religion and Theology.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
My concern is that eventually, Logos will become a secularized company that happens to offer Christian materials, and to me that is sad.
Dan, I appreciate your concern, but do want to point out that Logos is, and has always been, a business. We have intentionally eschewed the label "ministry" or even "Christian company." The first because of our high regard for ministry as a calling, and the belief that it would be wrong to take on that label when we are in fact organized as a for-profit corporation. The second because people have souls, and companies don't.
I hope you'll find this post helpful: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/35165/267014.aspx#267014 -- we aren't trying to provide support for anything in particular beyond studying the Bible.
For what it's worth, we are legally and structurally more like Amazon than Focus on the Family. It's actually illegal for us to discriminate in hiring based on religion; I am legally not allowed to ask about people's faith in an interview. As a result, we have a diverse staff: I'm pretty that among our 230+ employees there are a few dozen evangelical denominations, some Catholics, at least one Jew (who has since left, after giving us a lot of help with Hebrew resources!) and even a few atheists. Practically speaking, we're more like ChristianBook.com (formerly CBD) than Amazon, in that we have a category focus ("about the Bible"), and not every book in the world (though I hear you asking, Lynden!). And we do have Christians in leadership and the goals of the leaders inform and influence the corporation.
(Please remember that I'm making a technical point about the company here, not a personal one. I still have a soul! :-) I just don't want to let anyone mistakenly label Logos a ministry, with all the implications and honor-in-the-calling that brings, when the company doesn't deserve that title. I do believe that ministry-the-function can be accomplished by people in organizations that are not "ministry organizations" -- but then it's the act of a person, not the organization.)
want to point out that Logos is, and has always been, a business. We have intentionally eschewed the label "ministry" or even "Christian company."
Unfortunately for you Dan a lot of people don't see this and treat you like a ministry.
Your point in the opening post of this thread is well made your mission, as a business, must be to make the resources available to aid study and not to limit this to a narrow doctrinal view no matter how right you personally believe that view is. Our responsibility as users is to recognise how these resources relate to what we believe doctrinally.
At a recent teaching session at our Leadership Training Centre one of the attendees asked how we could help him identify what was doctrinally safe to read. The facilitator answered that our role is not to dictate who or what they read but to give them the tools to determine this for themselves. In a later session on our Basis of Faith I was able to pick up this issue and explore it further with the students.
IMHO the problem is not that there are resources that might make people believe the wrong thing but that there are too many Christians who do not actually know what they believe!
My library is a varied one and I enjoy many of the resources that I 'disagree' with as much as I do those the ones that I agree with.
God Bless
Graham
Pastor - NTCOG Basingstoke
IMHO the problem is not that there are resources that might make people believe the wrong thing but that there are too many Christians who do not actually know what they believe!
Far too many Church people have been told what to believe but have no comprehension of why they should believe it. I once taught a class on the triunity of God. One young man in the class, who was new to the Church, questioned everything. Some of the others resented him at first. Near the end of the sessions, one lady told me how valuable the class had been, especially with Carl's questioning. Her remark was especially enlightening: "All my life I have been told what to believe, now I know why I should."
I just don't want to let anyone mistakenly label Logos a ministry, with all the implications and honor-in-the-calling that brings, when the company doesn't deserve that title.
I think many confuse the terms because Logos is focused on tools related to Bible study and ministry. Logos is a blessing to those in ministry by providing tools that can be greatly used for their ministry.
I believe (although some disagree) that Logos operates as a business using both Christian principles and sound business principles. Publishing is a precarious business today. Many are struggling and some have not survived. Logos has an impressive track record of being a solid business that we can expect to be around for a long time.
I do not question the motives of the ownership and management the way that I might of a company whose sole purpose was profit by any means.
Keep up the great work.
One young man in the class, who was new to the Church, questioned everything. Some of the others resented him at first. Near the end of the sessions, one lady told me how valuable the class had been, especially with Carl's questioning.
Aha! "Carl the Berean." He gets around a lot.
In addition to helping other students "Carl the Berean" keeps pastors/teachers on their toes. It is very gratifying to have a disciplining/mentoring relationship with such a truth-seeker.
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Eric, I love the rich and growing diversity of books offered in Logos and the flexibility I have in choosing books to download. My concern is the hiring of and providing material support to help propagate the gospel of a false religion by Logos. This is my primary concern The hiring of someone who is to help advance the Catholic religion. My view that Catholics are not Christian is not a new one and it flows not from simply my personal opinion, but flows from the Bible, theology, hermeneutics, apologetics and this view has been rightly held by Protestants for hundreds of years.
Dear Rev Chris,
I would ask in advance for your grace. What I am about to say it may sound staccato and harsh and so, please grant me grace. Because I disagree that Mormons or JW’s who call themselves Christians and I believe otherwise does not mean that they are being bashed by me. Intolerance of voicing Christian opinions has been on the uptick. Am I now to be silent on this important vital issue? I cannot.
Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses call themselves Christian. Mormons are not Christian since they hold that Jesus was not God and Jesus and Satan were brothers. Jehovah Witnesses call themselves Christian and they say Jesus was not divine, did not raise physically from the dead and that Salvation is not by grace through faith alone. By these two cults own stated beliefs, they are not Christian. Yet they will espouse themselves Christian.
Catholics are non-Christian because they pray to dead people (they call saints or icons), something the Bible forbids. They also say that if a person has not been baptized in water they go to hell, thus making water baptism greater than believing in the finished work of Christ on the cross. They give their allegiance to a man (the Pope) who is infallible and inerrant in all that he says regarding the Bible. And the forgiveness of sins is achieved through confessing sins through man (the priest) and if their venial and/or mortal sins are not confessed and forgiven by them the individual goes to purgatory or hell.
Mormons have quite a strong number of adherents, like Catholics…is that inflammatory to say that Mormons are not Christian? Should we just accept anyone’s definition of what it means to be a Christian? Any standard of measure?
Again my concern is not and has never been in the books that Logos offers. I love the rich and growing diversity of books offered and the flexibility I have in choosing books. Perhaps offering categories for selecting “Evangelical”, “Pentecostal”, “Charismatic”, “Ecumenical”, etc. works would help some in finding the books they prefer easier to locate.
Nonprofits can have legal hiring obligations as well regarding hiring. My concern is not that Logos hire or not hire people who are non-Christian or even anti-Christian. My concern is the hiring of and providing material support to propagate the gospel of a false religion. This is my primary concern. The hiring of someone who is to help advance the Catholic religion.
My view that Catholics are not Christian is not a new one and it flows not from simply my personal opinion, but flows from the Bible, theology, hermeneutics, apologetics and this view has been rightly held by Protestants for hundreds of years.
I hope this helps clarify my concerns.
I do not want to come across as crass or sarcastic or mean spirited. But if you are a fellow ordained minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ perhaps Rev Chris you should review Systematic Theology 1 & 2, Hermeneutics and CARM.org is a good place to start to review Christian Apologetics.
Dan
My view that Catholics are not Christian is not a new one and it flows not from simply my personal opinion, but flows from the Bible, theology, hermeneutics, apologetics and this view has been rightly held by Protestants for hundreds of years.
Dan,
I never claimed that your arguments were your own personal opinions - I understand that your definition of "Christian" comes from your religious tradition. However, it is still a theological point and something that is forbid here on these forums.
Catholics are non-Christian because they pray to dead people (they call saints or icons), something the Bible forbids.
It's clear to me you don't understand the RC practice of praying to saints. It's no different than a parishioner coming into my office and asking me to pray for them. Some RC's may have confused this issue, but that is what the intended purpose is.
You say that RC's are not Christian because they do something that the Bible forbids. Last time I checked, we all do something the Bible forbids in one way or another, and we still call ourselves Christian. Also last time I checked, the Bible doesn't use the word Christian and never gives a definition of it. So to say RC's are not Christian because they don't follow the Bible in the same way you do is faulty logic. The word Christian is one with varied definitions and the RC church has just as much right as anyone else to give input as to what that definition is or should be. For me, Christian means to follow Christ. That leaves a lot of room up for interpretation.
Mormons have quite a strong number of adherents, like Catholics…is that inflammatory to say that Mormons are not Christian? Should we just accept anyone’s definition of what it means to be a Christian? Any standard of measure?
On this site, yes - you should. I'm not trying to say you should just give up your theology and opinions altogether. But there is a time and a place for that conversation and this is not it.
But
if you are a fellow ordained minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ
perhaps Rev Chris you should review Systematic Theology 1 & 2,
Hermeneutics and CARM.org is a good place to start to review Christian
Apologetics.
Thanks for the reference, but I studied theology and hermeneutics in seminary, not on some website. And I stand by my theological training and the grace by which I speak of it. I only hope that you can find the same grace in your conversations as well, for harsh attacks rarely results in spiritual transformation.
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I think the principle of 'Logos & Co' is best seen looking at Simon the Tanner (or Simon the potter, depending on your aramaic). Simon had his own beliefs, but he also had his business. His business was not his 'ministry'. That was 'Peter'. Simon was not the same. He had a business. Now, let's say Simon either tanned or potted for the hated Roman army (or maybe some highly opinionated folks in Jerusalem). Keep in mind that was Simon's business. The fact that he was helping his customers effectively target Peter & Co was certainly possible, but again, that was his business. Not his ministry.
I'm not using the above to target the Evangelicals or Catholics (or Mormons). I just don't see how a 'business' equates to a different set of rules for believers. But apparently it does.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
Also last time I checked, the Bible doesn't use the word ChristianBetter check again. Maybe not at your seminary, but it shows up in all of my Bibles...several times.
I stand corrected - it uses the word 3 times as you pointed out. It just doesn't define it.
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@Dan
What theological tradition do you hail from? Perhaps Logos can establish some conscientious objector status so people of your persuasion don't have to follow the same rules that law abiding citizen types are asked to follow around here. If that's not agreeable for Logos, there's always the personal boycott, and beyond, for you to consider.
It just doesn't define it.Each time, It refers to the apostles/disciples. To me, That in it's self is a definition. Galatians 1:8
Glad you clarified that - it is a definition - to you. We all have our own. If you want to limit the word Christian to the apostles - those that saw the resurrected Christ and told people about it, I'm fine with that. None of us would be Christians by that definition, of course.
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Wiggle your way out. Justify your error in whatever way works for you.
And continue to promote hatred and judgment in whatever way works for you, as long as it's not on this forum. Just remember that verse you quoted about sharing the good news.
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And continue to promote hatred and judgment in whatever way works for youWho is judging whom? Matthew 7:1
I think that's a good question to end this discussion on. Let each viewer come to their own conclusion as to its answer and let us agree to disagree.
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Thank you for clarifying what you are.Speaking of definitions, I think a definition for 'little weenies' is in order here. Little weenies are people who can't, or more accurately—WON'T, abide by rules simply because they like to do whatever THEY want… MORE.
Please stop responding to correct misperceptions or misunderstandings or to counter attacks.
To Rev. Chris, Dan Eide, Chris Thompson, Michael Anda and DMB,
I think you have all made your points clearly and sometimes more than once. Many of the point made are significant and merit a thorough discussion -- but not here. These forums have proven to be a poor medium for discussions like these, and such discussions are not in keeping with the purpose of these forums. For those of you who want to keep talking/writing about this, I suggest you take it off line (email, skype, some other forum?).
For those of you who have a problem with Logos' policies, I suggest you take it up with Logos, as Bob has invited us to do in the first post of this thread.
[BTW, I'm not trying to paint everyone with the same brush, here. I just listed those I saw interacting in this discussion in the last page or so.]
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
To Rev. Chris, Dan Eide, Chris Thompson, Michael Anda and DMB,
I think you have all made your points clearly and sometimes more than once. Many of the point made are significant and merit a thorough discussion -- but not here. These forums have proven to be a poor medium for discussions like these, and such discussions are not in keeping with the purpose of these forums. For those of you who want to keep talking/writing about this, I suggest you take it off line (email, skype, some other forum?).
For those of you who have a problem with Logos' policies, I suggest you take it up with Logos, as Bob has invited us to do in the first post of this thread.
[BTW, I'm not trying to paint everyone with the same brush, here. I just listed those I saw interacting in this discussion in the last page or so.]
Richard, thanks for that. In my last post I attempted to announce that I'm done with this conversation. I realized I carried it on far too long and am sorry for that.
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Matthew,
I think it would be better to simply drop this discussion or take it off line.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
Dear people of a certain behavior. I say behavior not beliefs because
behavior is what is relevant to these forums. Your behavior is
counterproductive - in an attempt to point out or convince people that a
doctrine or group is Unchristian, you instead turn them away from
listening to you. Your behavior implies that you cannot read and follow
the basic English of the forums. Why then should I listen to you on
something more complex such as Scripture? If you genuinely want to
convince, please use techniques that might be effective - beginning with
following the rules of the forums.
Sincerely,
a person whose beliefs you vehemently disagree with but does not believe much of what you assign to me.
Accurate statement of what I wished to say but once I have a cup of coffee I'll remember why I keep my mouth shut.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
etymology of the word weenie? Does it have a latin root?
censoring done manually:
"frankfurter," 1906, with slang sense ....following soon after, from Ger. wienerwurst "Vienna sausage" (see wiener). Meaning "ineffectual person" is 1963; pejorative sense..., or perhaps from weenie in the sense of "small" (see wee).
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
Dear people of a certain behavior. I say behavior not beliefs because behavior is what is relevant to these forums. Your behavior is counterproductive - in an attempt to point out or convince people that a doctrine or group is Unchristian, you instead turn them away from listening to you. Your behavior implies that you cannot read and follow the basic English of the forums. Why then should I listen to you on something more complex such as Scripture? If you genuinely want to convince, please use techniques that might be effective - beginning with following the rules of the forums.
Sincerely,
a person whose beliefs you vehemently disagree with but does not believe much of what you assign to me.
From one who has tried, woefully ineffectively and unsuccessfully, to hold accountable the conduct of which you write, thank you for this post. Now, better put on your hard hat and saliva shield!! [:D]
Bill
Standard English usage of Christian i.e. its meaning in the forums:
1.
of, pertaining to, or derived from Jesus Christ or His teachings: a Christian faith.
of, pertaining to, believing in, or belonging to the religion based on the teachings of Jesus Christ: Spain is a Christian country.
of or pertaining to Christians: many Christian deaths in the Crusades.
exhibiting a spirit proper to a follower of Jesus Christ; Christlike: She displayed true Christian charity.
decent; respectable: They gave him a good Christian burial.
human; not brutal; humane: Such behavior isn't Christian.
7.
a person who believes in Jesus Christ; adherent of Christianity.
a person who exemplifies in his or her life the teachings of Christ: He died like a true Christian.
a member of any of certain Protestant churches, as the Disciples of Christ and the Plymouth Brethren.
the hero of Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress.
a male given name.
1250–1300; < Latin Chrīstiānus < Greek Chrīstiānós, equivalent to Chrīst ( ós ) Christ + -iānos < Latin -iānus -ian; replacing Middle English, Old English cristen < Latin, as above
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
You really think it wise to use these exmples?
I make it a practice not to unnecessarily censor my source. Any complaints should be directed to the publisher Dictionary.com
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
just don't see how it helps to soothe the animosity.
Unfortunately I was focused on "5.
decent; respectable: They gave him a good Christian burial.
6.
human; not brutal; humane: Such behavior isn't Christian.
" and didn't think of how some might pick up other portions. There are parts of behavior of individuals on forums that I still have to stop and force myself to think about because they are so far from my daily experience outside the forums.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
Yes, I know you are on a higher spiritual plane.
More likely just older. Having been the youngest child or a youngest child I amazed at how young one can be and still have a grandson graduate from college.[*-)]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
The new, second part: Recently Logos has become something of a publisher. We create and sell Bible Study Magazine, the Lexham English Bible, HD Commentary, Evangelical Exegetical Commentary, and more. It’s fair to ask what theological perspective is behind these publications. And the answer is “Evangelical Christian.” Logos Bible Software is a member of the Evangelical Christian Publishers Association, and we subscribe to the Statement of Faith of the Association (http://www.ecpa.org/?page=about_ecpa).
When Logos Bible Software is the publisher, you can expect that the work does not conflict with this statement of faith. In the future we may choose to publish works aligned with even more detailed statements of faith, in which case they will be clearly indicated.
I wonder if Logos will not have to be at least a co-publisher of any new evangelical commentary sets for them to be viable. It will be interesting to see how that plays out in the future. I expect that before the EEC set is complete, we will see a new commentary set on the way with different leanings.