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anger
  ■ noun a strong feeling of annoyance, displeasure, or hostility.


Soanes, C., & Stevenson, A. (2004). Concise Oxford English dictionary (11th ed.). Oxford: Oxford University Press.

SuperTramp said:

I ran across one reference (Google) that claims Augustine went on in that writing  to instruct us to replace anger with serenity.

This seems to pop up in a lot of the AA websites when they talk of the development of the Serenity Prayer.

Still no documented source of a direct quote to Augustine. The rock band Styxx did write a song titled "Fooling Yourself" that asks "Why must you be such an angry young man, when your future looks quite bright to me?"

I may be "Fooling Yourself(Myself)", but, It doesn't really matter to me if it was with absolute certainty a St. Augustine quote.  I am not in a "game show" trying to earn points!

Let me throw another St. Augustine quote you may be able to disprove as well.  But, even if it is not from Augustine, I still LOVE this prolific statement.

"Love God, and do what ever you want!"  Baam!

George Somsel said:

MJD said:

Let me throw another St. Augustine quote you may be able to disprove as well.  But, even if it is not from Augustine, I still LOVE this prolific statement.

"Love God, and do what ever you want!"

 

The quote is generally given as "Love God and do as you please."  I have generally seen this attributed to St Augustine, but I have also seen it attributed to Martin Luther. I don't have Luther's works to search, but I haven't found it in St. Augustine.  Frankly, it sounds more like Luther.

I have heard "do as you please" also.  But, I have also heard this attributed to John Calvin... hmmm??

SuperTramp said:

MJD said:

"Love God, and do what ever you want!"  Baam!

In Christ we are freed from the Law -- for sure and forever.  But our freedom is a freedom for love, not a freedom for license.  
Our freedom is the freedom to choose -- as slaves in the first century did -- who will be our master.  Will we give ourselves over to God and to a life that is consonant with God's love?  Or will we choose something else, something less?

It's easy to hear Saint Augustine's remark as:  "Love God and do what you will."

It's much more appropriate to Augustine's original meaning to put the emphasis on the first two words:  "Love God and do what you will."

~ Frank McNair

I'll take libertarian movies for $500, Alex

     Baam!  You hit the daily-double!

Great humor, you made me laugh!

But for the win and 1000 points....  How about:

“Love God, then you’ll do what he wants.”

Robert Pavich said:

When I saw "Bam!" I thought the quote came from Emeril...

MJ. Smith said:

To those who say not responding to this thread is the wisest action, I say that I've just proved that I am not wise

                                                                             [^o)] HHHMMMmmm~~~ [^o)]

Halo Hound said:

MJ. Smith said:

To those who say not responding to this thread is the wisest action, I say that I've just proved that I am not wise

I've been reading your posts for too long. It would take a lot more then one post to prove that to me.

I have been reading MJ's posts for too long NOT to believe she knows what she is talking about. [;)]

(She can prove a lot in one post if you will read it several times.)

Brown admits that he could not find the location of the quote in Augustine's works. It seems like some people do not realize the importance of crediting the correct sources of quotations. From an academic and scholarly perspective, it is a big deal.