Barclay's Daily Study Bible

Michael Childs said:

Yes, I agree that would be great.  However, I have the DSB New Testament from Libronix 3.0, and I wish they would make that available on iPhone / iPad.  Since I already had Barclay's NT commentaries, I could not justify the cost of the upgrade.

I suspect that is WJKP doing to get people to buy the new upgraded version, but to my knowledge there is no plans to upgrade the OT series so would make sense for them to make it available for sale now...

-Dan

Bev N said:

 Thank you for posting this on the Forum. I too could not find my previous purchase of DSB by Willaim Barclay on biblia.com or on my iPad. 

This is making me rethink buying anymore books. I do use Logos on the computer, biblia.com and my iPad2 but if I have to continually re-buy basically the same books over and over again in the years to come, I too cannot cost justify it. I am wondering how many logos books I already own that will not be available on the iPad2 and I will need to re-buy them again.   I understand licenses expire but I had hope it would be longer time frame.

Hi Bev,

Once you have a license for a product in Logos, it never expires. If you have Barclay's Daily Study Bible in Libronix, you are still entitled to that product. It may appear that you are losing some access to the resource when you are not. You just aren't gaining it here like you have become accustomed to with other resources. Bob Pritchett has attempted to recast the perception of resource licensing across mobile devices. Old School thoughyt were, you paid for every copy on every device you read it on.The license was negotiated before there were any iPads, Androids, cloud syncing or all that new stuff we take for granted.  Most copyright holders have been very understanding and have no problem expanding accessibility of their licensed works into these mobile devices. A few rights holders refuse to allow Logos to do that.

In the case of the Barclay's Daily Study Bible, the new copyright holder wanted the content removed from the public's use altogether. I do not know why. Rumors are it had to do with doctrinal disagreement rather than money. The New Daily Study Bible is a new work. I wish I could have both in my library. I had the original in my old version of Scholar Silver but instead of upgrading the license to Scholar Gold through the website, I sold my license, including the DSB and purchased Scholar Gold from another individual, not realizing I was forfeiting my grandfathered-in DSB. 

The only real danger we have concerning licensing of our Logos resources is the continuity of the resource library. That is; if Logos becomes totally cloud-based and the old licenses are deemed not to cover that new technology the copyright holders could demand new fees to access the content on new platforms. This is not singular to Logos. Zondervan charged us a "cross-grade" fee to move previously purchased content from Pradis format to Logos format. If you ask Accordance to give you content you already bought in Logos format, they inform you that you must pay fees again to the same publishers you already paid to have in Logos. If you pay for a monthly parking garage spot, they issue a sticker to apply to your car. If you buy a new car, you may have to buy a new sticker. The parking garage is not refusing the service you paid for and it isn't their fault you bought a new vehicle. The publishing companies can charge you over and over without a tinge of conscience. [6] If they had their way, we would pay again for every song we hear on the radio.

So, as long as you own a computer that runs Libronix or Logos 4, you have a license for the original Barclay Daily Study Bible.   Just remember you will have to maintain two or more Bible software programs to access the widening gap of resources. That was the one thing most of us found appealing about switching to Logos, it was for the continuity.

Yes, I understand what the thread is about. It is just that technology is changing so rapidly from when Logos first came out with the Blue KJV box that it does become costly to keep up with it (software, hardware, devices, etc) all. Not many people had home computers or knew what a computer was about back in the Logos early days. Let alone what is Logos!  Now there are screams if we had to actually read a book and carry it & the weight of it around with us. I'm not bashing technology...people are reading who were not avid readers before. People are studying the Bible who were not even able to access one in their country. 

Technology works like magic on an iPad, Tablet or PC, but the many, many hours of work that go into making that magic happen is all behind the scenes and easy for the user to take for granted. 

My paperback DBS is on the bookshelf and will be there to regardless of technology. But I guarantee my iPad 2 will be open & on to read a colossal of eBooks and find/search what I need in a flash before I could even open the cover of one book of DBS. 

The DSB appears on my iPad4, but do I understand correctly if I want the NEW DSB that has been updated I need to buy it? If Yes, then will both sets appear on my iPad4?

What I don't understand is why Logos has no record of me owning the DBS. I wonder if this was a Pradis/Zondervan set that Logos took over. Regardless of that there s/be a record ownership in order for it to appear on my iPad4 and laptop.  

A different question, alabama...I thought I could post a screen shot from my iPad? I tried to do a search for it, but nothing relevant showed up. I thought you had this info in a previous post. Thanks for your help alabama.

I know how to do 1. & 2. But where does 3. Appear when I have the Forum Reply To pop-up box open?

thank you.

Bev N said:

       I've had these for years and years and don't remember either exactly when I bought them ........  ...when I bought a big package years ago, I think ......

                        I would think that these -- the original digital ones(!) -- are the ones you want ..........            It was not Barclay -- but someone else(!) -- who revised the new ones -- the ones that "cleaned up" Barclay's old and very distinctive language ...

                                 These are the ones you could probably sell and make a "good return" on your money as I'm sure many would absolutely love to have these!        ..........           and buy them from you at great profit to you!                       *smile*

Edit:    Take a look at the book covers.          The current ones have different covers than you do ....https://www.logos.com/products/search?q=Barclay

Yes, MCM, I realize they are not the "NEW" DSB. 

It's that I have DSB Barclay, but Logos has no record of it. Perhaps by now they have found it. The screen shot was to show that I do indeed have the set.