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I don't get it. For example, Peretti/Dekker's book House is $10 hardcover at Amazon and $6 something in Kindle, but Vyrso is $19+ ???? It isn't even worth buying and keeping anyway since hardly anyone's going to re read something like that.

Is that pretty much across the board pricing with Vyrso? If so, definitely not worth it.

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JT (alabama24)

I don't get it. For example, Peretti/Dekker's book House is $10 hardcover at Amazon and $6 something in Kindle, but Vyrso is $19+ ????

The hardcover book is a "bargain book" which probably means there are hundreds laying around from overprinting. When you receive the book, it will have a black mark along the bottom of the pages indicating it as such.

It isn't even worth buying and keeping anyway since hardly anyone's going to re read something like that.

I agree, but why did you spend the time looking up the price on it if you don't want to read it?

Is that pretty much across the board pricing with Vyrso? If so, definitely not worth it.

Other people seem to think so, but I don't agree. You did pick one of the more extreme examples, where the kindle version is 1/3 the cost of the Vyrso. I clicked on a random book (A Veiled Reflection). The Vyrso price was less than a dollar in difference. "Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood" is unavailable on Kindle, and the Vyrso price is almost half of the Amazon print price. "For the Family’s Sake" is the same price on both sites.

You should also be aware of the sales going on now at Vyrso. You can CLICK HERE to see many books for under $1.

In another thread, I made more comments about Vyrso:

Let me give you my thoughts on the subject.

Amazon sells MANY books using a technique called a "lost leader." The theory is that people will purchase one thing at a great discount and many more with less of a discount. They also lose money on eBooks and make money on kindles. Logos and other retailers are not able to keep pace for long.

There are people who are willing to buy anything from a "Christian" business. Personally, I am more willing to purchase a book from a "mom and pop" shop with GOOD customer service. I see Logos in this way. If I don't get good customer service I go to Wal-Mart. If you are going to get bad service, you might as well save money. I RARELY purchase from chain "Christian" book stores.

When considering eBooks, my decision process runs like this: What do I need the book for? How might I use the book in the future? Vyrso has many fiction titles (like my favorite to make fun of "Amish Romance Novels"). I am not likely to read these ever again, and it is unlikely I would want them for illustration purposes. In this case, I will go the cheap route. On the other hand, you mentioned "The Principle Of The Path." That is a book I am going to want to take notes in, and may use for sermon helps / illustrations, etc. I am very likely to purchase it in Vyrso, even if it is more expensive than Kindle. I WILL want it in Logos. You asked what is "value added" through Vryso. One thing I know is that many kindle books are limited in how much you can copy. I don't think this is the case with Vyrso books. (copyright laws still apply).

Floyd Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/288682#Comment_288682

Best advice (like everything else - SHOP

NetworkGeek

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/288682#Comment_288682

Amazon sells MANY books using a technique called a "lost leader."

Good reply Alabama, but I couldn't resist a small comment - it's "Loss Leader" not "Lost Leader". The manufacturer is willing to incur a LOSS in profit because the customer will buy other product. The manufacturer is not willing to get LOST [;)]

Word for the day - malapropism ...

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/288708#Comment_288708

Dominick -

I am trying to think of a good comeback, but I don't have any. [:D] Of course, you are right! Even in my description I speak of "losing" profit. Perhaps these companies are "lost" because they haven't "found religion." [insert groan here]

Shmuel Birnbaum

I also did a quick search of some novels and found Vyrso to be at least 50% higher.

Sadly, in today's lightening speed race of internet activity, Logos is entering at a disadvantage to Amazon, as have other retailers that have tried.

So, we are forced with a decision: support our believer family business, or watch our own pocketbook for the best deals.

It seems that it will be a big challenge for Logos to enter the already existing race of general e books and be competitive. In the end, if the prices do not match or beat Amazon, I doubt if this new venture will succeed. I hope you make it, Logos, but until your prices go down, I have to watch my own budget first.

Shmuel Birnbaum

I also did a quick search of some novels and found Vyrso to be at least 50% higher.

Sadly, in today's lightening speed race of internet activity, Logos is entering at a disadvantage to Amazon, as have other retailers that have tried.

So, we are forced with a decision: support our believer family business, or watch our own pocketbook for the best deals.

NB.Mick

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/288765#Comment_288765

I also did a quick search of some novels and found Vyrso to be at least 50% higher.

It seems this is really something that will depend on the individual book, as we have seen some that are cheaper on Vyrso than on Kindle (e.g. http://vyrso.com/product/14448/he-who-gives-life-the-doctrine-of-the-holy-spirit ) and some with just minimal differences.

With respect to novels, I could imagine that Amazon is consistently cheaper as these are sold in higher volumes - and those are most likely the books that people buy for their preferred leasure reading device and don't want to have in a Logos library (maybe with exceptions: "The Shack" or "John Calvin goes to Berkeley" come to mind)

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/288813#Comment_288813

I just found 25 books that I want on the Vyrso.com site for $.99 each.

I don't read "romance novels" or much fiction. These are titles I believe I would read or refer to more than once.

Like Floyd said, "Shop around." and get your best deal. After you consider the purpose and functionality of the different platforms you will purchase some titles in Vyrso, some in simple text formats, and possibly some in hard copy. It is always about having a choice and the more options we have, the better. To me, the Logos integration is worth 50% more for the type of content I buy. [C]

Phil Gons (Logos)

I don't get it. For example, Peretti/Dekker's book House is $10 hardcover at Amazon and $6 something in Kindle, but Vyrso is $19+ ???? It isn't even worth buying and keeping anyway since hardly anyone's going to re read something like that.

Is that pretty much across the board pricing with Vyrso? If so, definitely not worth it.

See my reply elsewhere for more on the subject of pricing.