Sports Fans: Thomas Nelson & Vyrso are running a promotion on the book Pujols: More Than The Game while the World Series lasts.
http://vyrso.com/product/12102/pujols-more-than-the-game?utm_source=ThomasNelson&utm_medium=email&utm_content=textlink&utm_campaign=worldseries
I read the blurb from Nelson on the book. I noted the comment regarding his interchange with opposing players on 1st. I really find that off-putting. One's influence on others is generally not to be effected through hit-and-run tactics. One can best influence others by as regular and sustained life and conversation. I remember once being accosted by some nitwit in a Costco in Virginia. He felt it his duty to give me the full-boat testimony. Everything in me was crying out to tell him he was making a mockery of the faith, but I restrained myself. Most often I think those who engage in such "witness" are mostly witnessing to their desire to appear to be religious — in their own eyes.
I haven't read it yet. If I remember, I will tell you what I think when I do. One difference between your experience and the one you described from the book is that Albert knows the players he is talking to. The guy at Costco didn't. (That was me, by the way [:P])
Sports Fans: Thomas Nelson & Vyrso are running a promotion on the book Pujols: More Than The Game while the World Series lasts. I read the blurb from Nelson on the book. I noted the comment regarding his interchange with opposing players on 1st. I really find that off-putting. One's influence on others is generally not to be effected through hit-and-run tactics. One can best influence others by as regular and sustained life and conversation. I remember once being accosted by some nitwit in a Costco in Virginia. He felt it his duty to give me the full-boat testimony. Everything in me was crying out to tell him he was making a mockery of the faith, but I restrained myself. Most often I think those who engage in such "witness" are mostly witnessing to their desire to appear to be religious — in their own eyes.
How very sad that you feel this way. I am most impressed with Pujols and his witness. And I'm a Milwaukee Brewers fan who has now seen his team beaten twice by the Cards (1982 WS and this year).
The bible says that word does not return void so anytime a witness goes out with a sincere heart it is blessed. Also, Paul said that a witness even with wrong motives can be used by God for his glory.
I only wish I had more boldness to help people around me learn of the grace of Jesus Christ.
The bible says that word does not return void so anytime a witness goes out with a sincere heart it is blessed. Also, Paul said that a witness even with wrong motives can be used by God for his glory. I only wish I had more boldness to help people around me learn of the grace of Jesus Christ.
Being in favor of boldness does not entail foolhardy recklessness. Grabbing someone by the collar, shaking him and asking "Are you saved, brother" is not the most effective method of furthering the gospel. We don't need hit-and-run evangelism. True, God can do whatever he jolly well pleases including speaking to a person "through a dead dog" as Barth says in his Kirchliche Dogmatiek (or through a braying jackass) or things could fly away from one another rather than being attracted. There are certain laws which pertain to all aspects of creation including psychology. The first rule is to make your witness attractive to the one who is its object.
EDIT: To fail to observe the laws by which God has created and maintains the universe is in itself sin since sin is the failure to observe God's laws. Hit-and-run evangelism may boost the ego of the would-be evangelist but it generally accomplishes no good.
George,
I must say you come across unusually immature in these comments for one who is usually so wise. Yours is a most unfair caricature of Pujols' evangelism, and a most unchristian attitude. Besides that, many people have been won to Christ through methods that I don't like. Street preachers have probably caused more angels to dance and celebrate in heaven than seminaries. We are not all alike. Whatever it takes.
Pujols reminds me of Bobby Richardson, whose testimony to fellow ballplayers was instrumental in changing many lives. God delights to use the foolish.
Me? I come across pompous all the time.
George, I must say you come across unusually immature in these comments
I must say you come across unusually immature in these comments
I really don't care much about your opinion of me.
Now you've gone and done it. .. You have challenged the character of King George !
You've been saving up your venom for some time, haven't you?
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Calling Albert's method of evangelism "hit and run" is very funny considering the baseball imagery. It is also very inaccurate. Albert is doing what we all should do. He is witnessing to the people in his work place when the opportunity is presented. These are not people "off the street corner." These are Albert's professional colleagues. We should take Albert's example to heart.
Soli Deo Gloria,
Randy
Calling Albert's method of evangelism "hit and run" is very funny considering the baseball imagery. It is also very inaccurate. Albert is doing what we all should do. He is witnessing to the people in his work place when the opportunity is presented. These are not people "off the street corner." These are Albert's professional colleagues. We should take Albert's example to heart. Soli Deo Gloria, Randy
Is it really? I would consider making a brief comment or slightly extended comment then leaving base (literally or figuratively) as being hit-and-run as opposed to one's daily interaction with another as co-worker, neighbor, friend, etc. What is needed is a life in interchange with others not a 30 sec to 5 min commercial.
I can see it now, "Jesus saves at Waxahatchee Bowlers' Federal Credit Union."
Ya'll can say what you want about Pujols,
But the Lord was with him tonight in the 3rd game of the world series, he hit 3 home runs tonight. (he is in good company, only 2 others have done this in world series history: Babe Ruth and Reggie Jackson)
my poor texas rangers need to pray harder. [:'(]
Thomas Nelson & Vyrso
Not familiar with Vyrso, do these resources show up in L4? Not really a sports fan, but after reading this thread, I want this book.
EDIT: Answered my own question by purchasing the book and now reading it in L4.
Not familiar with Vyrso, do these resources show up in L4? Not really a sports fan, but after reading this thread, I want this book.You must not have paid attention to My comments about the book.
Oh, but I did pay attention to your comments as well as the genuine posts by George. I disagree with George, but I believe that you are a coward who fancies himself to be a comedian.
Why can't you imbeciles comprehend what I am saying? Why should this ball bat cowboy get any recognition for his accomplishments? He doesn't have superior intellect, like Me. He doesn't have all the degrees that I have. He hasn't mastered all the ancient languages that I have. Who could think that he matters in the grand scheme of things? Why don't we focus on Me, and forget this peon?
Looks like Y'all had an exciting weekend. Sorry I missed it.
Are you sure you missed it?
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2011/12/08/source-albert-pujols-agrees-to-10-year-deal-with-california-angels/
sad. I lived in Miami and now in St. Louis . . . so, until this morning, I thought I had the best of both worlds. BTW, George, kind of half remembering earlier parts of this thread: I kind of react to "unwanted, imposing" evangelism styles, but I think Pujols' larger body of work and reputation gives him more "capital" to do what he does. There. I'll hang up and take your response over the air. [;)]
PS. George, I didn't read the article yet. Is it just info over the sale, or was there something in there that made you take note, in particular?
I suggest you read the article then you will know the answer to your own question.
