Logos and Kindle
How about making Libronex software available on the Kindle - especially Bibles.
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I had called and actually got to talk to a fellow about this and they said that they were waiting to see what format ends up being the standard and what will people ultimantly end up using iPhone, Kindle, Sony reader etc...
This conversation happened about 3 months ago. So I believe they are looking, but as always they are waiting.
Hope this helps.
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I was just on the front page of Logos.com answering the questions you find on the right hand side down a little bit and they had a question "Do you own a Kindle". So it seems apparent that they are watching it and considering putting things on the Kindle, however we need to remember that Logos does not own any of the major commentaries, Bibles, or other books in the library (maybe a few). So they'll need to work closely with the publishers who may wish to go another route.
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It seems to me that a limited portable computer product (that's really what smartphones and even the Kindle are) is simply another way to use a product that we've already purchased.
You could buy a tiny netbook now and probably fit your whole Libronix library and the program on it. One of these devices are simply more convenient and more compact than one of those, among other benefits to a reader, such as battery life.
So I'm not sure the publishers would have anything to say pro or con to this concept--except that sales at Logos might spike! [;)]
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An additional question should have been asked: Are you going to buy a Kindle?
Charlene
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MelvynRLongtin said:
How about making Libronex software available on the Kindle - especially Bibles.
I'm inclined to not be particularly interested in the Kindle due to its rather hefty price of $359. That said, I was looking at some offerings in an email from Dove Books in which they listed Marvin Sweeney's King Josiah of Judah: The Lost Messiah of Israel (a mere $101.99 Dove's price [:O]). I thought I would see if Amazon happened to have it with the "Look Inside" feature (It does). I also note that it is available for the Kindle (at a minuscule $145) [:D] Does anyone know whether these can be ported to one's computer?
Thank goodness for the edit feature. One more question: Is it possible to copy text from the Kindle and paste it into a document?
george
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If you highlight text on the Kindle, you can go to kindle.amazon.com and cut-n-paste from there. Your notes also appear organized by book. This saves you the hassle of transferring the text file for some subset of use.
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I have been meaning to write Bob Pritchett a "Use Case" for the Kindle, and I think I finally have it.
I LOVE my Kindle. I have found myself able to read a lot more now that I have one, and I love having something to read whenever I find a spare 5 minutes. I use it in conjunction with Google Reader, so that when I find a longer article, I press a bookmarklet button that says "Read on Kindle" It uses the Instapaper web service to automatically download said "longer article" for when I have that five minutes.
Now, I would love to have my entire Libronix library on the Kindle. The only problem is that a Kindle 2 only has 2GB of space, and I have over 6 GB of Libronix books. How to bridge this gap? Well, I think the answer lies in the way I use my Kindle.
It's really as simple as this - At the Top of the Passage Guide and Exegetical Guide, I want a button that says "READ ON MY KINDLE" Said button would take simply take all of the relevant sections from the passage guide and build them into a single book that I could read through. Each week, first thing, I'd probably dump the passage guide onto my Kindle as a single book, and read it through the week as I have time.
Admittedly, I'd also like to set up a "To Read" list of titles in Logos, and have the "next " one also pop onto my Kindle - but I wouldn't be surprised if there are license restrictions on that.
Anyways, that's how I'd integrate a Kindle with Logos. I hope Bob is listening
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I've owned my Kindle for about 3 months. Even now I am trying to decide if I should keep it. I view it as a convenient way to read for entertainment. The underlining function, shockingly to me, is limited. I read and marked an entire book thinking all of my clippings would be imported into the file on my laptop. Later, when I went to use the notes for a project I was stunned to see that over half of my clippings were not available. The publisher places a limit on the amount of clippings you can export, thus severely limiting the usefullness of the Kindle for serious study. The other thing I do not like is that you "buy" a book but you really don't own it. By that I mean you cannot sell the book to someone else. Since you cannot sell it to someone else that seems to me that you really do not own it. IMHO "rent" is a more accurate word than "buy."
Having said all that there is something really cool about the Kindle and the fact that you can get a book on it within 5 minutes...
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MelvynRLongtin said:
How about making Libronex software available on the Kindle - especially Bibles.
I got another idea, how about Logos on Mobile Phone? Windows Mobile, Android, iPhone???
"And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free", John 8:32.
"你們必定認識真理，真理必定使你們自由", 約翰福音 8:3.0 -
MelvynRLongtin said:
How about making Libronex software available on the Kindle - especially Bibles.
Someone posted this link on the newsgroups:
http://www.nuance.com/imaging/omnipage/omnipage-reformats-documents-for-kindle2.asp
I suggests that the newest version of OmniPage can "print" to the Kindle. Has any body tried this?
Blessings,
Floyd
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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MichaelHollinger said:
Anyways, that's how I'd integrate a Kindle with Logos. I hope Bob is listening
I am. We'll see what we can do...
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Floyd Johnson said:
I suggests that the newest version of OmniPage can "print" to the Kindle. Has any body tried this?
As George was saying in another post.
The EULA of electronic books do not allow you to convert the text from one format to another format (to a pdf, MS Word, Kindle,...). This is because you do not 'buy' an electronic book (or any software for that mater). You buy the right to read that book in a certain format.
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Peter Covert said:
The EULA of electronic books do not allow you to convert the text from one format to another format (to a pdf, MS Word, Kindle,...). This is because you do not 'buy' an electronic book (or any software for that mater). You buy the right to read that book in a certain format.
The EULA varies from book to book. I have some resources that have no restrictions - many of these would be works in the public domain.
Others include text similar to the following:
Permission is granted to make up to 100 copies of each article from Discipleship Journal.
Paul Westervelt, P. (1981; 2006). Discipleship Journal, Issue 1 (January/February 1981). NavPress.Others have something like the following:
Copyright 1985 by InterVarsity Christian Fellowship of the United States of America
All rights reserved. No part of this book may be reproduced in any form without written permission from InterVarsity Press, P O Box 1400, Downers Grove, Illinois 60515
Barker, S. (1997, c1985). Good things come in small groups : The dynamics of good group life. Includes index. (4). Downers Grove, Ill.: InterVarsity Press.I want to be sure to read the copyright information included with the book I am currently reading. I am also required to limit my use to the "Fair Use" principles included in law. I expect that there may be librarians among us that can help us understand Fair Use of copyrighted works.
Here are comments from the Electronic Frontier Foundation (aka EFF) about fair use of electronic material:
http://w2.eff.org/IP/eff_fair_use_faq.php
Blessings,
Floyd
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Floyd Johnson said:MelvynRLongtin said:
How about making Libronex software available on the Kindle - especially Bibles.
Someone posted this link on the newsgroups:
http://www.nuance.com/imaging/omnipage/omnipage-reformats-documents-for-kindle2.asp
I suggests that the newest version of OmniPage can "print" to the Kindle. Has any body tried this?
Blessings,
Floyd
Brother Floyd,
I haven't yet made the plunge for a Kindle but have been waiting "for such a time as this."
I have been running OmniPage OCR for years and just talked to the customer service rep about this new improvement because I will be upgrading. I didn't think to ask about the legalities of it but one point worth noting is it does convert PDF files to Kindle. With the vast array of public domain PDF books out there (see Google Books) there should be no shortage for legal material. If all you want to do is read (What more can you do with the Kindle?) then it shouldn't be all that necessary to get copyrighted formats when there are public domain PDFs available. For the newer copyrighted works (that lend themselves to mostly reading without the need for extensive linking) licensing should ideally be through Libronix in such a way that you have the right to export it to the Kindle for personal reading if you have it in your Libronix library. With all the copyright lawyers out there, it isn't as though the license terms are written in stone or codified by legislation. That's just a cop-out excuse to keep selling more licenses. Just take a look at eSword's copyright, or the GNU licensing. The owner of the rights to the material can just about allow/prohibit anything they want. If they want a wider audience they won't overly restrict the usage. There was once a day when you could buy a recorded work on LP, transfer it to 8-track then cassette tape, then CD without violating copyright laws so long as it was for personal use.
That's why it is really important to actually READ the End-User Licensing Agreement.Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Bottom line:
Owner of copyright has right to allow/disallow whater they wish. They OWN the content. There is no "bill of rights" for users
Libronix's EULA is clear - we can't copy, via any means, significant portions of an given resource to other venues without written permission.
So, if this discussion is about porting L resources to other vehicles, without Logos' permission, the answer is simple: don't.
If the discussion is not about libronix, them probably it should be on some other forum.
Copyrights are often disregarded - but just because 5 million martians call a cow's tail a "leg" - the cow does NOT have five legs. What you have is a four-legged cow, and 5 million dumb martians.
I trust you get the point :-)
Can we please get back to discussing legal uses of Libronix?
Btw, please pardon me if I've misunderstood the "drift" of this conversation.=============
Redeeming the time (Eph.5:16+Col.4:5) ... Win 10, iOS & iPadOS 16
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I had the same concern about the Kindle's price until it was pointed out to me that the cost of an iPod is about the same.
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JimDean said:
Bottom line:
Owner of copyright has right to allow/disallow whater they wish. They OWN the content. There is no "bill of rights" for users
Libronix's EULA is clear - we can't copy, via any means, significant portions of an given resource to other venues without written permission.
So, if this discussion is about porting L resources to other vehicles, without Logos' permission, the answer is simple: don't.
If the discussion is not about libronix, them probably it should be on some other forum.
Copyrights are often disregarded - but just because 5 million martians call a cow's tail a "leg" - the cow does NOT have five legs. What you have is a four-legged cow, and 5 million dumb martians.
I trust you get the point :-)
Can we please get back to discussing legal uses of Libronix?
Btw, please pardon me if I've misunderstood the "drift" of this conversation.Brother Jim, You did misunderstand the "drift."
I never condoned or suggested illegal use of any works. I said almost word for word what you said about owner's control over their work. (Btw; Authors are not always owners of the rights. Some sell them to the publisher.)
My point is IF the owner of the rights WANTS to, they can license their work to be published by LOGOS with express permission built-in for private porting to the Kindle or whatever device. Maybe that would require lawyers at LOGOS to amend some of the current EULA.
I only mentioned the public domain PDFs to point out why I think LOGOS would do better financially to focus on currently copyrighted (therefore licensable-for-a-profit) works. A case in point is the Community pricing for Barnes' Notes. Some people don't see the benefit of a Libronix integrated version when there is a free PBB version. I think it would be beneficial so I entered a bid on it. I think the 503 Nelson book DVD is a marvelous example of what I'm talking about.
Last time I read the LOGOS EULA it said I can install the program on two machines for my own personal use. (Presumably a church office computer and a laptop I take home?) There could be a question as to the legality of installing LOGOS on a church office computer and a home PC and a Mac Book. That's 3 computers, one too many. Then there is the philosophical question about whether a dual boot system constitutes a dual installation and if a portable USB drive would constitute multiple installations (Is cloud computing legal?) The forward progress in the digital age continues to raise new questions, challenges and creativity. Some adapt, some don't. You can guess which ones die.Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Kindle DX model has "Integrated PDF Support" so I guess you don't have to have OmniPage 17 unless you get one of the lower priced Kindles.
Like Quipper Replied: Tue, Jun 23 2009 6:34 AM
"You could buy a tiny netbook now and probably fit your whole Libronix library and the program on it. One of these devices are simply more convenient and more compact than one of those, among other benefits to a reader, such as battery life."
A tablet pc also has a lot of advantages over the Kindle.besides having a nifty rotating screen
-you can carry your whole LOGOS installation with you,
-have wireless (cell phone based) internet, better than just downloading from Amazon.
-have music & start-up sounds or audio sermons
-make all the notes you want with a stylus no less!
-synch with the office computer
(so long as you keep that battery charged.)Still me thinks me wants one Kindle! [H]
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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Thank you for the clarification, Matt, and I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.
You're right - it is hard nowadays to figure out where the "line" IS, esp re things like multiple machines, etc.
I've discussed those issues in the past with L, and I've gotten "official" and "unofficial" answers. I guess the point is that they want to make sure their customers have enough flexibility to use the products, but not enough to make it easy for others to "borrow". It's the old story - the locks on most doors are there to "keep the honest people honest ".
I truly do hope that L will find some means by which we can utilize our licensed resources on the "ittybitty" computers that have become popular in the last five years or so, since the EULA's were originally composed. I would hope that if they can create a "skinny reader", the EULA would be modified to allow for full Libronix instances on two full computers and one Lreader instance on a portable handheld device, of whatever variety.
But, who knows ... if ATT ever gets their act together and if we can transition to 4G widely throughout the country, then maybe the ittybitty solution will simply be online connection, with licenses registered at the server, so that each user can access their resources that way, for "just reading" purposes.
Getting late ... disjointed thots. Again, sorry about the misunderstanding.
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Matthew C Jones said:
A tablet pc also has a lot of advantages over the Kindle.
I considered getting a tablet pc, but the cost was prohibitive for just an ebook reader and a few other things. Netbooks are a bit more reasonable.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:Matthew C Jones said:
A tablet pc also has a lot of advantages over the Kindle.
I considered getting a tablet pc, but the cost was prohibitive for just an ebook reader and a few other things. Netbooks are a bit more reasonable.
I think I'll bring this back to the subject of Logos and Kindle. What would be nice, but beyond Logos' control, would be a Kindle which could also function as a tablet PC so that it would be possible to have Libronix on it. Of course, it would also be usable for other programs. The other major problem in addition to requiring an outisde party to develop the machine is that such a machine would invariably be larger so that some of the advantage of the Kindle would be lost. I see no reason, however, that before long it would not be possible to combine the Kindle with the capabilities of a notebook computer in a possibly even smaller format than the tablet now has. I see no reason that the Kindle books could not be compatible with the PC format (Sorry, MACies, there's no hope for you, but we already knew that). [6]
george
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I have been thinking and debating about this idea of a kindle. But I am afriad that I will loose my favorite logos feature. When you scripture reference in a book you just have to float your mouse over it and boom it pops up. What a great way to hold the author accountable without spending hours looking up every passage. I agree the netbook idea is ideally the best. This is what I do, I read my logos on my netbook however it still draws a lot of eye strain. I've said it in another post, but I would love to see the ability to simply change the background to be a more of a cream than a white. Then you don't have the drastic black/white deal.
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Donovan R. Palmer said:
I considered getting a tablet pc, but the cost was prohibitive for just an ebook reader and a few other things. Netbooks are a bit more reasonable.
Donovan - this fall there are two or three manufacturers that are going to market netbook tablets - tablet PCs with the smaller footprint of the netbook. I am trying to be patient. Now if only Amazon will introduce a Kindle program for the PC - not likely, but I can hope.
Blessings,
Floyd
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Bob, I physically examined and tested several of the top ereaders available. I did not choose the Kindle for a long list of reasons. If Logos goes ereader friendly I hope it isn'y via Kindle, or at least not exclusively Kindle. The Kindle, along with Sony and Barnes and Noble devices use proprietary formats that aren't friendly or cost effective for the market. Epub or mobi formats would broaden your appeal IMHO :-)
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The Kindle does read mobi format books without DRM, though Amazon's own book sales are in DRM.
I've got a Kindle (had the old, have the new) and I really like it. The Sony Reader was nice, too, but I like the wireless book delivery on the Kindle.
-- Bob
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Floyd Johnson said:Donovan R. Palmer said:
I considered getting a tablet pc, but the cost was prohibitive for just an ebook reader and a few other things. Netbooks are a bit more reasonable.
Donovan - this fall there are two or three manufacturers that are going to market netbook tablets - tablet PCs with the smaller footprint of the netbook. I am trying to be patient. Now if only Amazon will introduce a Kindle program for the PC - not likely, but I can hope.
Blessings,
Floyd
I am quite exited with the news coming slowly out about the new development with the small tablets. Apple is coming soon with their 10 inch Tablet which should look like a bigger iPhone. I think that is the way to go. It will be small, touch screen, simple to use as iPhone. If it runs a full OS, even better. If not, just iPhone type OS, we will need the Logos Reader on that very much. Other companies are said to come with the similar thing (as Floyd said already).
Bohuslav
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Donovan,
Amazon just announced the PC program for Kindle.
Rus Howard
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Bob Pritchett said:MichaelHollinger said:
Anyways, that's how I'd integrate a Kindle with Logos. I hope Bob is listening
I am. We'll see what we can do...
One of the best things you can do is make the online version compatible with the Kindle browser.
Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
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Rus Howard said:
Amazon just announced the PC program for Kindle.
Yep - downloaded Kindle for PC about a month ago. I recently purchased a netbook tablet (Gigabyte T1028) on which to install it. However, I still have not purchased any books, doubt if I will. [:)]
Blessings,
Floyd
Blessings,
FloydPastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
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Perfect idea!
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For the time being you all can access much of your Logos library (if you own L4) if you direct your Kindle browser to library.logos.com
Make sure that you are in advanced mode.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Jacob,
Would really appreciate your commenting on the steps you take to use your Kindle with Logos. I now have a Kindle III and have yet to figure out how to get to my library?
Michael
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Michael S. Dysart said:
Jacob,
Would really appreciate your commenting on the steps you take to use your Kindle with Logos. I now have a Kindle III and have yet to figure out how to get to my library?
Michael
I have the first generation Kindle, so can only guarantee this works from there:
- From Home: Menu | Experimental
- Basic web
- Verify from the menu that you are in advanced mode (I also enable JavaScript)
- Select the location bar at the top of the screen and direct your browser to http://library.logos.com
- Select the "sign in" link
- Sign in with your username and password
- Navigate from the top or bottom icon bars (unfortunately the links show up as <Active Link> so you just have to count which one you want. for example home is the first one. Search is the third one, etc).
This works perfectly on my Kindle.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Jacob,
Your instructions are WONDERFUL...thanks for making this SO CLEAR. I have the Kindle III and am loving it. The "experimental option for advanced browsing" and the "JAVA SCRIPT" are now embedded in the Kindle III which means you no longer have to choose them. I went to library.logos.com and signed in and it works pretty good. The paging features in the Kindle III now serves as a sorta "page up" but have to access internet each page turn--- I can turn pages at a rate of 4-6 seconds per page wiith the 3G access.
For sections of books that are "allowed" you can copy and paste but do not save as "text." Save as a MicroSoft document with a font size that is 16+. Then print as a PDF document on your desktop or other easily accessible location. Kindle III does amazing things with PDF documents retaining most of the functions of the pad with these documents. The only function that I have found so far that it does not retain is the ability to increase the font size--this is why you need to enlarge the font size when saving as a Word Document. Once saved--then the PDF converter will convert at that larger font size and make it more readable when transferred over to the Kindle.
Plug in the Kindle to the computer and then drag the PDF file to the documents file on the Kindle and SHAZAAM...you are going to have an awesome read. Once the section is read...I delete. AWESOME.
Let me know what you think. Thanks, Mike
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Michael S. Dysart said:
Jacob,
Your instructions are WONDERFUL...thanks for making this SO CLEAR. I have the Kindle III and am loving it. The "experimental option for advanced browsing" and the "JAVA SCRIPT" are now embedded in the Kindle III which means you no longer have to choose them. I went to library.logos.com and signed in and it works pretty good. The paging features in the Kindle III now serves as a sorta "page up" but have to access internet each page turn--- I can turn pages at a rate of 4-6 seconds per page wiith the 3G access.
For sections of books that are "allowed" you can copy and paste but do not save as "text." Save as a MicroSoft document with a font size that is 16+. Then print as a PDF document on your desktop or other easily accessible location. Kindle III does amazing things with PDF documents retaining most of the functions of the pad with these documents. The only function that I have found so far that it does not retain is the ability to increase the font size--this is why you need to enlarge the font size when saving as a Word Document. Once saved--then the PDF converter will convert at that larger font size and make it more readable when transferred over to the Kindle.
Plug in the Kindle to the computer and then drag the PDF file to the documents file on the Kindle and SHAZAAM...you are going to have an awesome read. Once the section is read...I delete. AWESOME.
Let me know what you think. Thanks, Mike
That seems like a good solution too. I actually end up doing something similar (sending Word doc) when I want to read a big section from a commentary or a particular chapter. Reading online with kindle isn't the best solution, but its nice cause its always available and its easy to navigate.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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While I appreciate the PDF printing workaround, and the effort from Logos to offer the web browsing, I really would value a better option for accessing my purchased books from an ebook reader (I own a kindle.)
iPads are nice, but I can't read from them for long periods of time. If I could access my Logos books from an eInk device, then I'd be much more prone to reading my books from start to finish, rather then turning to them to simply look information up.
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Brian Reinicke said:
While I appreciate the PDF printing workaround, and the effort from Logos to offer the web browsing, I really would value a better option for accessing my purchased books from an ebook reader (I own a kindle.)
iPads are nice, but I can't read from them for long periods of time. If I could access my Logos books from an eInk device, then I'd be much more prone to reading my books from start to finish, rather then turning to them to simply look information up.
A better option (if you plan ahead) would be to go to the new Print/Export feature and export what you want to read to a word document and then email that to your Kindle. This would let you avoid the web browsing portion. See my post here for more on this: http://community.logos.com/forums/p/25801/190662.aspx#190662
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Rus Howard said:
Donovan,
Amazon just announced the PC program for Kindle.
Rus Howard
This is amazing the MacOS "beta" has been out since April. Works great but not as feature rich as the iphone version. Just sort of amazes me that a mac version was out before the windows version.
-Dan
PS:I noticed talk about tablets, HP's new Tablet seemed to be a good Logos item till you look into it;s specs, not Large enough screen size or ram. Does anyone know if 1024x768 and 2 GB are true min. or just suggested. I mean I am not going to be getting one I am a happy on my macbook pro... If Logos Ipad app gets better i may consider an ipad.
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The Dell Inspiron Duo looks interesting too.... I personally haven't had any experience with it, but it looks like it could make a good Logos device:
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Kindle allows you to email your Kindle with items to read. Why can't I just copy sections of my Logos books into an email and send them to my Kindle to read?
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David Kuhlmann said:
Kindle allows you to email your Kindle with items to read. Why can't I just copy sections of my Logos books into an email and send them to my Kindle to read?
You can and that works fine (I usually copy them into a word doc, or export them using the beta print/export feature).
The "problem" with this is that you have to plan ahead, which isn't that big of a deal.
The way that I have used this in the past is to use Logos and passage guide when I'm studying a passage to generate a list of commentaries and journal articles I may want to read. I copy those into a word doc, email it to my kindle, and read away while I'm out and about. I haven't liked this approach in that I can't effectively take notes on it like I can in Logos, but it is a good way to make stuff portable on the easy-to-read screen of Kindle.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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David Kuhlmann said:
Kindle allows you to email your Kindle with items to read. Why can't I just copy sections of my Logos books into an email and send them to my Kindle to read?
Dave, if you want a full description of how to manage your Kindle and add content, please see this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_k2land_trans?nodeId=200505520
Because I do not want to pay a fee for each file that Amazon sends to my Kindle, I use the process described in this line to transfer data via usb from my computer to my Kindle. Amazon will convert a pdf file or Word doc free, but I choose the method it is delivered to me.
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Nice ! Thank you.
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Joan Korte said:David Kuhlmann said:
Kindle allows you to email your Kindle with items to read. Why can't I just copy sections of my Logos books into an email and send them to my Kindle to read?
Dave, if you want a full description of how to manage your Kindle and add content, please see this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_k2land_trans?nodeId=200505520
Because I do not want to pay a fee for each file that Amazon sends to my Kindle, I use the process described in this line to transfer data via usb from my computer to my Kindle. Amazon will convert a pdf file or Word doc free, but I choose the method it is delivered to me.
You can also get the Mobipocket Creator from Mobipocket.com and convert your own docs to kindle format and then transfer them via USB, which is my method of choice.
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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Hey - I'm planning on getting a new kindle but I have one question that Kindle support cant (or wont) answer, and maybe you guys can on here. Does the kindle's built in text-to-speech reading function work for the documents that you create? So if you took some of Hodge's Systematic theology (for example), created the document in kindle format, would it read it aloud ot you?
Thanks -any info on this would be much appreciated.
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Eric Johnson said:
Does the kindle's built in text-to-speech reading function work for the documents that you create?
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The Kindle will read Word docs. I have been copying a chapter or two of Grudem's ST, pasting into Word, and emailing to kindle address. You can also transfer the files via cable.
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Thanks, Jonathan. I can do a lot of studying at my job with the text-to-speech function if I can listen to those works read from my kindl. I don't know why Amazon was reluctant to answer or ignorant of the ansewr.
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Quipper said:
You could buy a tiny netbook now and probably fit your whole Libronix library and the program on it.
I actually did this with a 1ghz Windows XP netbook. It was a bit sluggish but worked okay. -J
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There are many books in my Logos library that I would like to simply read. A kindle is so cenvenient for this and I find it is easier to sit and read a kindle (can be whipped out almost anywhere) rather than have to open my laptop. Would love to see this feature available to be able to read books simply for enjoyment.
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Agreed, Jan. There are a ton of books in my Logos collection that I probably will never read simply because traditional books are not well suited for the PC or my iPhone. Reference and research are great at the PC, but the Kindle is perfect for sustained reading.
I hope Logos is working on something. Kindle sales are only increasing.
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