Bible vs Leaders vs Scholar

Hi,

For normal bible study:


  • Reading the bible
  • Searching the bible
  • Comparing different versions of the bible
  • Reading commentaries
  • Using dictionaries
  • Reverse interlinear

Is it possible to do all those things in the Bible Base Package?

 

 

Comments

Sort by:
1 - 2 of 21

    All of those features are available in each level of package.  The breadth of study capacity available will increase commensurate with the number of resources in each category.

    On this page http://www.logos.com/basepackages  You can click on each level and quickly see how many (interlinear) bibles, commentaries, dictionaries and so forth are available in each package.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

    Others have said it, and as someone who just bought leaders and realized it was a mistake, it's true: buy the best package you can at the time you go into the software. I really think, personally, that the top end for most people is Scholars Gold. I would not buy anything else than Languages if I were you. I bought leaders and was disappointed. Sales was kind enough to give me he same discount I received prior to bump up to Scholars. I am now pleased with the results I get from the software. I'd sugges minimum of Scholars if you can afford it - if not Languages.

    Good point Alexander.  

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

    I'd sugges minimum of Scholars if you can afford it - if not Languages.

    [Y] Scholars is the minimum package to have all the features enabled.

    From what I hear, though, the best bang for the buck is to buy Original Languages and then immediately upgrade it to Scholars (since OL has resources that Scholars doesn't).

     

    MacBook Pro (2019), ThinkPad E540

    I have Scholars and then instead of upgrading further I have added the volumes I wanted. I love it and do all the tasks you've listed. I think people are right, leaders is a bit of a waste of time considering what you might want out of the product.

    For normal bible study

    As a layperson wanting to improve my personal Bible study time, I purchased the Bible Study Library and found it to be a great place to start. It had a good core of resources that let me do each of the tasks your described better and faster.

    A few years later, when I actually joined a church ministry team in a staff position, I upgraded to the Leader's Library for a fairly minimal cost given all the extra resources in the package, (mostly pastoral how-tos and best practices).

    I have not upgraded to the Scholars Library for two primary reasons: 1) Most of the new resources added to my library through the upgrade are in the language tools category that I would not be able to take good advantage of and 2) I have acquired most of the additional non-language resources (i.e. sermon outlines) through add-on purchases.

    In advance response to those who might advocate for the advantage of any person studying the Bible to learn the original languages, while I concur in theory, the same "learning disability" that has made learning languages extremely difficult has also made me appreciate the ability to experience some of the built-in word study tools (i.e. reverse interliniar) in Logos all the more.

    My 3 cents.

    Steve R.

    I can attest to the buying the "OL" package and upgrading it to "Scholars." (This is the path I took)  You can not do the reverse.  If you buy OL and upgrade it to scholars you will probably pay about $50 more than buying Scholars outright, but you get a LOT more resources for that $50 - some of which are only found in the Gold package.  I highly recommend this path.

    If you are not into languages, I would suggest calling Logos and asking if you can upgrade from "Bible" and "Leader" to "OL" and later "Scholars."  If they allow an upgrade to "OL" from "Bible" or "Leaders," I would suggest just getting one of those packages to start. 

    If, at a later date, you want to go to Scholars, make sure you upgrade to OL first, and then Scholars.  Otherwise if the smaller base package serves your needs, stick with that.

    If you are not into languages, I would suggest calling Logos and asking if you can upgrade from "Bible" and "Leader" to "OL" and later "Scholars."  If they allow an upgrade to "OL" from "Bible" or "Leaders," I would suggest just getting one of those packages to start. 

    If, at a later date, you want to go to Scholars, make sure you upgrade to OL first, and then Scholars.  Otherwise if the smaller base package serves your needs, stick with that.

    Up till now I understood the upgrade path to be like a turned-around Y , where you can upgrade to Scholars either via Bible Study and Leaders or from OL. But maybe this has changed.

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

    The only base packages I recommend are Silver and Platinum - I would skip Gold altogether if upgrading.

    The only base packages I recommend are Silver and Platinum - I would skip Gold altogether if upgrading.

    Hi Joshua,

    Can you qualify your statement? You obviously hold this as a personal view, but can you say what type of study you do and tell us why Silver and Platinum are essential to you.

    Also can you provide some guidance based on my original description of bible study in the first post.

    Thanks

     

    The only base packages I recommend are Silver and Platinum - I would skip Gold altogether if upgrading.

    Hi Joshua,

    Can you qualify your statement? You obviously hold this as a personal view, but can you say what type of study you do and tell us why Silver and Platinum are essential to you.

    Also can you provide some guidance based on my original description of bible study in the first post.

    Thanks

     

     

    From your OP I'm guessing you're looking at the Bible Study base package. This package offers a lot, but lacks what I use the most. First off, it lacks good commentaries. Only when you venture into Silver and above do you start getting good commentary sets. For instance, Silver provides the New American Commentary set. This set alone sells for 500 dollars on Logos. With Platinum things start to look even better with Pillar and the New International Greek New Testament. Both together would set you back $1,100 outside a base package. You also get good original language tools, such as good lexicons (which the Bible Study package does not have).

    Think about this: the price of the three commentary sets above equals the price for the Platinum base package. But with the Platinum base package you get over 1,200 more resources, including BDAG!

    Investment wise, it is incredibly smart to go big with your ininitial base package purchase. You'll be thanking yourself later. If you buy now before the end of the year you'll also get 15% off this package plus loads of Logos credit.

     

    The only base packages I recommend are Silver and Platinum - I would skip Gold altogether if upgrading.

    Hi Joshua,

    Can you qualify your statement? You obviously hold this as a personal view, but can you say what type of study you do and tell us why Silver and Platinum are essential to you.

    Also can you provide some guidance based on my original description of bible study in the first post.

    Thanks

     

     

    From your OP I'm guessing you're looking at the Bible Study base package. This package offers a lot, but lacks what I use the most. First off, it lacks good commentaries. Only when you venture into Silver and above do you start getting good commentary sets. For instance, Silver provides the New American Commentary set. This set alone sells for 500 dollars on Logos. With Platinum things start to look even better with Pillar and the New International Greek New Testament. Both together would set you back $1,100 outside a base package. You also get good original language tools, such as good lexicons (which the Bible Study package does not have).

    Think about this: the price of the three commentary sets above equals the price for the Platinum base package. But with the Platinum base package you get over 1,200 more resources, including BDAG!

    Investment wise, it is incredibly smart to go big with your ininitial base package purchase. You'll be thanking yourself later. If you buy now before the end of the year you'll also get 15% off this package plus loads of Logos credit.

     

    Scholar's Gold includes United Bible Society (UBS) Handbook Series that regularly sell for $ 799.95 that do not need original language mastery to appreciate translation and cross cultural insights.

    Wiki has Logos Resource Reviews => UBS New Testament Handbook Series and => UBS Old Testament Handbook Series 

    Keep Smiling [:)]

    Scholar is the all-purpose starting block for Logos. It doesn't take long for most people to realize how Logos transforms your study. 

    The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter