Which To Purchase iPad or Android Based?

Rev. Bill Woods
Rev. Bill Woods Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

Hi

Hoping to get some input here. I am in the market to purchase a Tablet.

I really like what I see in the Android versions, especially the Samsung.

But my # 1 software will be Logos.

Is there any things that are better/worse between the iPad and an Android.

Or in simpler terms: Which one should I purchase and why? I will also post this in the iPad forum.

Thanks

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  • Rev. Kelly Todd
    Rev. Kelly Todd Member Posts: 273

    Bill, I have an ipad, and my wife has an android tablet.  we both like our own device but don't want to use the others!  LOL I feel that I can do much more on my ipad than she can on her tablet if for no other reason than there are a lot more apps for the ipad.  And even though android is supposed to be so great, every brand has issues with something... all is not well.  But, as for logos, the ipad is in general a few versions ahead of the android version... and it is expected to stay this way for a while.  they are not like night and day, but the ipad is ahead.  If the dollars were equal, my money would be on the ipad... your money, may be else where!

    kelly

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭

    Youcan't use reading plans at all in Android, but so long as your reading plan isn't messed up by the sync fiasco, you can use them in ios. Just one example of how iPad app is ahead of the android app.

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • Mike Binks
    Mike Binks MVP Posts: 7,434

    Or in simpler terms: Which one should I purchase and why? I will also post this in the iPad forum.

    There are many flavours of Android depending on the tablet maker.

    There is only one flavour of iPad - those restrictive, app testing, core programme protecting, control freaks at apple.

    I guess it depends on the sort of ride you want you can sail with a buccaneer or travel on a cruise liner.

    Horses for courses.

    I love a good metaphor.

    tootle pip

    Mike

    How to get logs and post them.(now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs) Latest Logos, MacOS, iOS and iPadOS

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,978

    EDIT: Grumble grumble  Forum Posting => Error

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,978

    I believe Mike has struck the distinctive.  What kind of person YOU are will help define what you will be satisfied with.  It's really a question of: do you want to control your experience, or would you rather have your experience controlled?


    • IF you dislike technology for the sake of technology in general but see its necessity or only see it as a tool to accomplish things - I would opt for ipad, the plethora of options, flavors and extensibility with Android will drive you to your local geek screaming for help. 
    • IF you love technology for technologies sake and have a propensity to tinker, change and tweak your software/hardware than I would go with Android - the straight jacket of inflexibility with apple will drive you nuts.

    Regarding Kevin's comment, Android and ios will be equivalent at the completed release of syncV2 and it's release on the mobile platform.  The retooling on sync is moving ahead and the first major stage is nearing completion.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    see it as a tool to accomplish things - I would opt for ipad

    Right on. If you see technology as a tool to accomplish things, opt for the iPad. 

    macOS, iOS & iPadOS | Logs |  Install

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,978

    see it as a tool to accomplish things - I would opt for ipad

    Right on. If you see technology as a tool to accomplish things, opt for the iPad. 

    Actually, I'm grateful for your support Alabama.  I've made that observation after careful consideration.  I'm an inveterate tweaker and ipad would drive me through the wall.  I'd probably end up hacking it to run Android... or Linux [6].  Even if I had to solder some kind of RS-232 port on it.  (Hmm, actually that sounds like a fun experiment....)

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Lynden O. Williams
    Lynden O. Williams MVP Posts: 8,974

    Actually, I'm grateful for your support Alabama.  I've made that observation after careful consideration.  I'm an inveterate tweaker and ipad would drive me through the wall.  I'd probably end up hacking it to run Android... or Linux Devil.  Even if I had to solder some kind of RS-232 port on it.  (Hmm, actually that sounds like a fun experiment....)

    I use to be like that in my younger days. [:)] If you break your ipad, I will send you my U.S. Address, after you fix it of course. Then you can have an excuse to buy another one. Cheers.

    Mission: To serve God as He desires.

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,978

    Lynden, I won't buy an ipad.  But I'll be glad to hack on yours.  [:D]

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • I'm an inveterate tweaker and ipad would drive me through the wall.

    Wondering if have visited an Apple store and tried using an iPad since many apps have options for tweaking ?

    Other tweaking option is becoming an Apple developer; Logos is hiring => http://www.logos.com/about/careers

     I'd probably end up hacking it to run Android... or Linux Devil.

    Apple uses and contributes to many open source projects => http://opensource.apple.com/ and => http://developer.apple.com/opensource/

    Even if I had to solder some kind of RS-232 port on it.  (Hmm, actually that sounds like a fun experiment....)

    Camera connection kit => http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC531ZM/A might be a bit easier than RS-232 for experimentation.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Alan Charles Gielczyk
    Alan Charles Gielczyk Member Posts: 776 ✭✭

    The biggest problem with Android tablets is that the manufacturers are halting production faster than they can sell them. Very few, if any, will still be making Android tablets by the end of this year. I think Samsung may be the exception, it appears as if they are the only ones doing it right, so IF I were going to buy an Android it would be a Samsung. Having said that, I LOVE MY iPad! I would choose an iPad any day. I had a Samsung Android phone for a couple of years and I liked it but traded it in for an iPhone two months ago and could not be happier.

  • The biggest problem with Android tablets is that the manufacturers are halting production faster than they can sell them. Very few, if any, will still be making Android tablets by the end of this year. I think Samsung may be the exception, it appears as if they are the only ones doing it right, so IF I were going to buy an Android it would be a Samsung.

    Amazon Fire may be a cheap alternative tablet; albeit lower price tag corresponds with less hardware.  Reading various rumors about iPad 3 this year along with iPad 2 price dropping after iPad 3 launch; should know much more in a few months since original iPad was launched in April 2010 and iPad 2 in March 2011.

    ZD Net has an article about Android Ice Cream Sandwich on tablets => http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/why-ice-cream-sandwich-wont-be-able-to-save-android-tablets/19584

    Another Android issue is operating system upgrades => http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support

    In contrast, Apple's iOS 5 upgrade was free for many iOS devices, including original iPad.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Paul N
    Paul N Member Posts: 2,087

    Another feature many Android Tablets have jumped on is the removable memory that the iPad will never have (at least under the influence of Jobs).  This may be a deal breaker for some who like/need interchangeable memory cards or those who don't use a cloud service

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭

    I believe Mike has struck the distinctive.  What kind of person YOU are will help define what you will be satisfied with.  It's really a question of: do you want to control your experience, or would you rather have your experience controlled?

     

    • IF you dislike technology for the sake of technology in general but see its necessity or only see it as a tool to accomplish things - I would opt for ipad, the plethora of options, flavors and extensibility with Android will drive you to your local geek screaming for help. 
    • IF you love technology for technologies sake and have a propensity to tinker, change and tweak your software/hardware than I would go with Android - the straight jacket of inflexibility with apple will drive you nuts.

     

    Regarding Kevin's comment, Android and ios will be equivalent at the completed release of syncV2 and it's release on the mobile platform.  The retooling on sync is moving ahead and the first major stage is nearing completion.

    Wow! That's not slanted at all.

    I love my iPad and prefer the iPad to Android on the tablet side of things. I love tech for tech's sake and I love to tinker and tweak. But I'm not willing to put up with the fragmentation of Android and the less polished interface. BTW you can tinker with an iOS device by rooting or as IOS people call it jailbreak it just like your an an Android device. If you don't root an Android device it's harder to tweak.

    Regarding the equality, I don't know if they will be equal once v.2 of sync comes out. the betas of Android still don't have reading plans and some of the other features that the iOS beta has. I use both since I have both a Fire and an iPad.

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,978

    Wow! That's not slanted at all.
    I can't tell if that's sarcasm...  [:^)]   For my part, that's how I see it.  

    BTW you can tinker with an iOS device by rooting or as IOS people call it jailbreak it
    I did NOT realize this - and I thought it broke functionality - further, having not kept up with this, I thought (at one point) that jailbreaking your iphone/pad would get you in trouble with your vendor? (serious inquiry here).

    Regarding the equality, I don't know if they will be equal once v.2 of sync comes out. the betas of Android still don't have reading plans and some of the other features that the iOS beta has. I use both since I have both a Fire and an iPad.
    I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that the hold back on any kind of reading plan in Android was because they were waiting for SyncV2 to be finished.  Mind you, it is only a guess on my part.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭

    I can't tell if that's sarcasm...  Huh?   For my part, that's how I see it.

    I was ...

    Jailbreaking doesn't necessarily get you into trouble. In my experience, like rooting my Android phone and tablet, it made things a little less stable but not terribly so.

    You are probably right about holding it back due to sync 2. I just know they're going glacially slow with the updates by comparison to other things in the first year of Logos 4. So I'm not expecting to see all the iOS features in the Android app before summer. My bet is by this time next year they will be close to having feature parity but not before.

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • Rev. Kelly Todd
    Rev. Kelly Todd Member Posts: 273

    It is funny as I run both PC and MAC.  on my pc I do tweek, but on my MAC, not at all, and I love my ipad... it is just simple and does exactly what it is supposed to do 24/7... everyone is different.

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,978

    y bet is by this time next year they will be close to having feature parity but not before.
    Ouch.  

    I'm about to plunk down on a new Android phone - which I've been postponing on for over a year (one year's worth of advancements is phenomenal) because I've been waiting for highlighting.    I hope you're wrong Kevin.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • GregW
    GregW Member Posts: 848 ✭✭

    I think the comment earlier about Android fragmentation is important.  I was holding off for the price of Android tablets to come down, but when Amazon brought out the Kindle Fire and forked the code base at the same time, I went out and bought an iPad 2. The Android market is getting inceasingly fragmented, and I suspect Bob and his team are going to end up having to support multiple Android versions until one ends up as the winner.

    I am a PC user, and detest Apple's closed, we still-control-it-even-thought-you-bought-it mentality, obsession with aesthetics over functionality and high price points, but I concluded that I needed to buy something that was likely to be supported going forward.  I had also held off in the (vain) hope that Microsoft might bring something to the marketplace, but that doesn't look like happening until Windows 8 comes out.

    So, two months on, I am extremely happy with my iPad, and keep the Apple logo covered by a non-Apple case, and am enjoying having Kindle, Logos/Vyrso and Google Books libraries all available on one device (I don't buy anything from iBooks because you can only read them on Apple platforms).  I'm also looking forward to the highlighting/notes functionality and Reading Plan sync getting sorted out shortly, which will really enhance my Logos experience on the iPad. 


    Running Logos 6 Platinum and Logos Now on Surface Pro 4, 8 GB RAM, 256GB SSD, i5

  • I am a PC user, and detest Apple's closed, we still-control-it-even-thought-you-bought-it mentality, obsession with aesthetics over functionality and high price points,

    For those who want to tinker with Mac OS X, the terminal utility provides access to a powerful command prompt, which has tweaking opportunities (e.g. changing OS X Lion sidebar icons to have color instead of silver shades).  For open source fun, can compile and run applications using X Windows.  Personally amazed by Apple's easy to use graphical interface.  To tinker with iOS, suggest becoming an Apple developer.

    Currently, Apple pricing ranges from competitive to premium.  For MacBook Air competition at similar prices, Intel needed to fund $ 300,000,000 to assist various manufacturers with start up costs for ultrabook models.  Currently, the best ultrabook value is a refurbished July 2011 model MacBook Air, something to consider for mobile use since can use Logos 4, which has more features than Logos mobile apps => http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/macbook_air (recommend 4 GB RAM models since cannot upgrade RAM)

    Looking forward to iPad refresh this year: iPad was announced in April 2010, then refreshed in March 2011; have read a rumor targeting Steve Jobs birthday on February 24.  Wonder about Apple product and pricing plans for iPad ? (note: 3 models of iPhone are currently available for purchase).  When Apple ships iPad 3, anticipating refurbished iPad 2 price drop => http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • TCBlack
    TCBlack Member Posts: 10,978

    I think the comment earlier about Android fragmentation is important. 
    As do I, though strides are being made to reconcile that via Ice Cream Sandwich.  It remains to be seen if it will happen.

    Hmm Sarcasm is my love language. Obviously I love you. 

  • Rev. Bill Woods
    Rev. Bill Woods Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    Looks like my question hit a fundemental nerve.  The same nerve that keeps my away from everything Apple.  I would not think of buying an Apple computer because of Apple's attitude since the firts computer was made in a garage. 

    But when it comes to Tablets ... I keep hearing more and more evidence that says iPad is the way to go.  Especially if Logos is the center point of the software I am going to use.

    Well, thank you everyone for your input.  It has been very helpful.

    No matter which way I end up going,  I think I will hold off 90-120 days to see what happens.

    Thanks and blessings!

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    I am a PC user, and detest Apple's closed, we still-control-it-even-thought-you-bought-it mentality, obsession with aesthetics over functionality

    You obviously don't get it. The aesthetics and functionality go hand in hand. It is the 1001 PC makers who try to differentiate themselves by making things "look cool." Apple believes form follows function. Everything that you write about why you like the iPad is true about the Mac as well. One of the reasons Mac's "just work" is because the system is not fragmented like Windows / Android.

    Some people like to "tinker" on their computers. I just like mine to work.

    macOS, iOS & iPadOS | Logs |  Install

  • Josh
    Josh Member Posts: 1,542

    I am a PC user, and detest Apple's closed, we still-control-it-even-thought-you-bought-it mentality, obsession with aesthetics over functionality

    You obviously don't get it. The aesthetics and functionality go hand in hand. It is the 1001 PC makers who try to differentiate themselves by making things "look cool." Apple believes form follows function. Everything that you write about why you like the iPad is true about the Mac as well. One of the reasons Mac's "just work" is because the system is not fragmented like Windows / Android.

    Some people like to "tinker" on their computers. I just like mine to work.

    [Y]

    I own an iMac and an iPad. To say that I am immensely satisfied is an understatement.

  • Andy
    Andy Member Posts: 2,282

    I own an iMac and an iPad. To say that I am immensely satisfied is an understatement.

    I do not own an Android tablet and am, therefore, unable to comment directly on running the Logos app on this platform. My wife has recently bought an Android driven smart phone and it is my perception that the look, feel and functionality of the Logos app is some way behind the iOS version. In fairness, however, she is very satisfied and it enables her to do most things she requires (save note taking and highlighting).

    I own an iPad 1 (32GB 3G) and have been really amazed at the usefulness and quality of the device. When I bought it, I expected that I would us it as little more than a reader. However, I have found it incredibly useful for research, note taking, blogging and word processing (I bought the Apple Keyboard and a nifty stand to make this a little easier). As we are currently demoing Proclaim, I also use the iPad as a controller when preaching. I use an app to control my PC (enabling me to access the desktop version of L4) on the fly from the iPad.

    I can honestly say that the iPad is one of the best purchases I have made. I use it at least 4 to 5 hours every day.

    In terms of the Logos app for iOS, it is polished, slick and, for the most part, easy and intuitive to use. It is a real blessing to be able to carry my library with me on the go. I do feel the app is held back by the lack of notes and highlighting, but am reassured that this is imminent (for the moment I use Evernote to compliment the Logos app and then painstakingly transfer all of my notes back into Logos from the desktop end).

    In truth, I was so impressed with the iPad I very recently made a partial switch to Mac (a MBA) and am delighted with my purchase. It is my intention to replace my desktop PC with an iMac if and when the desktop departs to the great network in the sky.

    I can't advise you whether to go for iPad or Android, this will be a matter of personal choice. I am confident, however, that the iPad cannot be fairly criticised with regards to build quality and the performance of the Logos app. If your primary concern is to run the Logos app, the iPad will not disappoint you (although please be aware of the limitations of the app with regards to note taking, highlighting and the unavailability of some resources on mobile devices).

    If you decide to go this way, it is also worth checking out Splashtop, a cheap and robust app which enables you to take control of your desktop via your iPad.

     

  • Rev. Bill Woods
    Rev. Bill Woods Member Posts: 8 ✭✭

    Hi everyone.

    Learned something new today and thought I should ad to this discussion.

    My 2nd favorite - after Logos - Bible software is GLO.

    Glo does not even offer an Android version, only runs on an iPad.

    So if you go with Android, you kiss your Glo goodbye. 

    For me, that puts a hefty amount on the iPad side of the scale.

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭

    I think the comment earlier about Android fragmentation is important. 
    As do I, though strides are being made to reconcile that via Ice Cream Sandwich.  It remains to be seen if it will happen.

    Until an Android maker makes a money back guarantee that they will support each new version of Android throughout the 2 years of my phone contract, I'm unlikely to buy another one. I'm doubting that's going to happen. Apple has never made such  promise, but they have a history of delivering it. You can still get iOS 5 on a 3GS which was released nearly 3 years ago.

    Dr. Kevin Purcell, Director of Missions
    Brushy Mountain Baptist Association

    www.kevinpurcell.org

  • Bill Moore
    Bill Moore Member Posts: 974 ✭✭

    Hi everyone.

    Learned something new today and thought I should ad to this discussion.

    My 2nd favorite - after Logos - Bible software is GLO.

    Glo does not even offer an Android version, only runs on an iPad.

    So if you go with Android, you kiss your Glo goodbye. 

    For me, that puts a hefty amount on the iPad side of the scale.

    Hi Bill. Even if you decide on an iPad, I think it would still be prudent to hold off for two or three months to see what Apple comes out with. I've been waiting for a better display on the iPad before I buy, and the rumored iPad 3 is supposed to have one. Whatever I buy will be at least a three-year investment, and getting as non-pixelated display as possible is very important for my reading. I bought the iPhone 4S last November and love the Retina display of its fonts. If the iPad 3 can get close to that, I'll probably buy.

    As far as tweaking and such goes, I just don't have enough time for that. I simply want it to do what I need, be it iOS, Android, or Windows. When it comes to tablets and phones, iOS works for me. As far as notebook computers go, Windows is still very satisfactory. The cost difference between a MacBook Pro and similarly-configured Lenovo ThinkPad, when bought at a nice sale price, is still too much for me to take go all-Apple. That may happen one day, but not yet.

    Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC

  • You have convinced me that what I want is an IPad.  Now, whether to wait and see if the IPad 3 is going to be an extreme jump in technology and price over the IPad 2. 

  • Bill Moore
    Bill Moore Member Posts: 974 ✭✭

    You have convinced me that what I want is an IPad.  Now, whether to wait and see if the IPad 3 is going to be an extreme jump in technology and price over the IPad 2. 

    Welcome to the forums, Christopher. I'm hoping that the price of the iPad 3 will be the same as the current iPad 2 and the iPad 2 will drop some. It's worth waiting two or three months to me. I'll be surprised if the iPad 3 is a huge jump in capability, but I'm really hoping the display is a significant improvement. We'll see.

    Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC