Hard copy's already owned.
If I already have purchased the hard copy of a book do I need to purchase it again for to have it on logos or can you get it on there some other way?
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Hi Leslie
Leslie Craig said:If I already have purchased the hard copy of a book do I need to purchase it again for to have it on logos or can you get it on there some other way?
Sorry, unless the hard copy book came with a Logos-compatible CD/DVD with the book in electronic format you will need to purchase it again.
Graham
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You need to purchase it again, I'm afraid. Once you've done so, you could sell your hardcopy, of course, to help pay for it.
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Theoretically there is another way to get it on there: scan the book, OCR it, convert it to a .docx file formatted as a Logos Personal Book, and build it in Logos. Legally you should be allowed to do that for your own private purposes (it's kind of akin to ripping MP3 files from your CDs). But that process is so laborious that most people prefer to purchase the digital copy, as someone has done all that work for them, and more. The Logos book development team does all kinds of tagging to link that book to other resources in your library. It's usually worth it to pay again for the Logos book even if you already own the hard copy, but that's up to you to decide.
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Much to my satisfaction, I have purchased Logos versions of books that I had on my shelf and successfully sold the hard copies on Amazon. What's made the transition easier to accept financially was buying collections in Logos when they went on sale.
The more Logos became my go to study resource, the books on my shelf received less use. My only downside is that I like looking at my books and many times I forget what I have in Logos.
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I know If sold my Lenski Hardback on craigslist to re-buy L3, because I had sold my QB licenses in the past. Then when I bought L3 X series, soon after that L4 came out and it's been a smooth experience since then. Plus, not only do I own all the resources that I used to own on QB but I've also added a bunch of new resources at a great price.
Anyway, back to the thread: Sell your hardback copy and buy the logos edition. I've done that in the past or I just end up giving away some. I know I donated most of my hardback library to my church, since my wife was tired of me having books laying around everywhere...[A]...plus is easier when you move not having to carry a bunch of boxes. I only have about 2 boxes of books and that's it. I'm putting some short ones in Logos PB format, and can't wait to give those away once I'm done with my PB projects.
Alright, that's all folks!
DAL
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Rosie Perera said:
that process is so laborious that most people prefer to purchase the digital copy, as someone has done all that work for them, and more.
I promise that is the truth. And the product that Logos sells you will be far superior to doing it the hard way - tagged in ways to the entire library that you could never do yourself.
Until Logos publishes the Bicentennial Edition of Wesley's works, I am converting a few select parts of it. Let me assure you that I had no idea all that would be involved. The footnotes - the most valuable - part have to be cut and pasted individually. There are 127 footnotes in the first sermon alone, and there are 157 sermons. Then there are the Journals, Letters, Essays, Grammars, and various other volumes of writings. There must be tens of thousands of notes. Yes, I will be only doing small selections.
Of course the less scholarly the work, the less trouble it is to convert.
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DAL said:
I'm putting some short ones in Logos PB format, and can't wait to give those away once I'm done with my PB projects.
What will be your legal rights to the PB once you give away the hard copies? If you have the hard copy and you did the work to make the PB - fine, covered under fair use. But if the book is still in copyright and you give away the hard copy you have no legal rights to the PB / docx files.
For example with a Music CD you can have the 'you made it' MP3 if you own the store bought original CD - But if you give away the CD you no longer have any legal rights to the MP3 files from that CD [the legal owner of those MP3 files is whoever you gave or sold the CD to]. So it seams to be with hard copy books and PB.
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David Ames said:
What will be your legal rights to the PB once you give away the hard copies? If you have the hard copy and you did the work to make the PB - fine, covered under fair use. But if the book is still in copyright and you give away the hard copy you have no legal rights to the PB / docx files.
For example with a Music CD you can have the 'you made it' MP3 if you own the store bought original CD - But if you give away the CD you no longer have any legal rights to the MP3 files from that CD [the legal owner of those MP3 files is whoever you gave or sold the CD to]. So it seams to be with hard copy books and PB.
I think David is correct on that.
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Michael Childs said:David Ames said:
What will be your legal rights to the PB once you give away the hard copies? If you have the hard copy and you did the work to make the PB - fine, covered under fair use. But if the book is still in copyright and you give away the hard copy you have no legal rights to the PB / docx files.
For example with a Music CD you can have the 'you made it' MP3 if you own the store bought original CD - But if you give away the CD you no longer have any legal rights to the MP3 files from that CD [the legal owner of those MP3 files is whoever you gave or sold the CD to]. So it seams to be with hard copy books and PB.
I think David is correct on that.
Well, then I guess I'll have to keep them. It's only 2 boxes and they don't bother me anyway. 2 boxes has kept my wife happy so I'll get away with having them. Plus, gives me something to read at night without having to have my laptop on.
Thanks for the information!
DAL
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