Was Judas present when Christ instituted Communion?
please help with good resources.
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Which library do you have Pastor Jesse?
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please help with good resources.
I always think scripture is a good resource. In Luke 22:14-23, Judas was at the table. In Matthew 26:20-30 and Mark 14:12-25, it is not clear when Judas left. And the Eucharistic is not in John.
I always think scripture is a good resource. Luke Luke 22:14-23, Judas was at the table. In Matthew 26:20-30 and Mark 14:12-25, it is not clear when Judas left. And the Eucharistic is not in John.
You're too late, Tom - that was MY suggestion, and I even added John! [:P]
Edit: And, yes, I'm aware John 13 isn't about Communion. 
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I always think scripture is a good resource. Luke Luke 22:14-23, Judas was at the table. In Matthew 26:20-30 and Mark 14:12-25, it is not clear when Judas left. And the Eucharistic is not in John.You're too late, Tom - that was MY suggestion, and I even added John!
Yes, I saw that I was slow looking up the scripture verses. I will also challenge you to find the Eucharist in John.
luke 22 definitely says yes he was present.
Edit: And, yes, I'm aware John 13 isn't about Communion.
Have you seen that? [:P]
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Edit: And, yes, I'm aware John 13 isn't about Communion.Have you seen that?
Nope, I did not see that edit.
Because the Eucharist is not in John, we cannot use John to support or deny the presence of Judas when Jesus Instituted the Lord’s Supper.
platinum. there is a lot of controversy on this issue even among the scholars.
Pastor Jesse Blevins,
You might run a search on "Closed Communion" (there are people out there stating Jesus himself instituted Closed Communion since Judas had already left - though I can't see any scriptural justification for this), you should get some results you can go with.
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Matthew 26:23
Definitely supping with the Lord.
But some may differentiate between the meal and the ordinance.
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
You might want to do a search of your library like the following: (Judas NEAR present) AND ("Lord's Supper" OR Eucharist OR Communion)
Jacob Hantla
Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
gbcaz.org
First suggestion: The Bible! [H]
Edit: Matthew 26,25; Mark 14,18-20; Luke 22,21; John 13,26
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