Let's get the Classic Commentaries on Revelation Moving again

In Community Pricing the Classic Commentaries on Revelation is stuck. Most people will not bid $160 for the set and it takes too many people at $50 to overcome those that have bid $160.

What we need is for those who have bid $160 to change their bid to $50. This will bring the $160 peak down 3 times faster than new bidders bidding on the $50 level. Once $50 becomes the new peak, many more new bidders will be drawn in at that price.

I know there have many posting on this, but so far the numbers have not moved. Surely some of you who think $160 is a fair price can help all of us by getting the bidding moving again. Changing your bid should not impact the $50 peak, but it will lower the $160 peak until the $50 price wins.

The other Classic Commentaries that have lower prices are moving well. Let's get Revelation moving also.

Some of you may not know that you can change and re-change your bid anytime you want, up to the time the Pre-pub order is placed. So let's do it!

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Dean J

Here is the link:

http://www.logos.com/product/8522/classic-commentaries-and-studies-on-revelation

Paul Chatfield

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/335434#Comment_335434

The other thought that's worth considering on this thread is that if Logos are 'helping' some of these Classic Commentaries to reach 100%, as it seems they have been doing with a number of them, then people reducing their bids to $50 will not slow its progress, but just mean that when it's helped over the line they pay $50 rather than $160. Their choice I guess...

tom

In Community Pricing the Classic Commentaries on Revelation is stuck. Most people will not bid $160 for the set and it takes too many people at $50 to overcome those that have bid $160.

What we need is for those who have bid $160 to change their bid to $50. This will bring the $160 peak down 3 times faster than new bidders bidding on the $50 level. Once $50 becomes the new peak, many more new bidders will be drawn in at that price.

I know there have many posting on this, but so far the numbers have not moved. Surely some of you who think $160 is a fair price can help all of us by getting the bidding moving again. Changing your bid should not impact the $50 peak, but it will lower the $160 peak until the $50 price wins.

The other Classic Commentaries that have lower prices are moving well. Let's get Revelation moving also.

Some of you may not know that you can change and re-change your bid anytime you want, up to the time the Pre-pub order is placed. So let's do it!

Because of the number of classic commentaries that are already in the pipeline, I am willing to let this one wait for another six months or so. My wallet is very slim right now.

Dean J

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/335451#Comment_335451

Because of the number of classic commentaries that are already in the pipeline, I am willing to let this one wait for another six months or so. My wallet is very slim right now.

Problem is, if Logos decide to 'help' this one before we get it to $50, we'll be stuck with the higher price tag.

Evan Boardman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/335489#Comment_335489

I think $50 might be too low of a tipping point and $160 you have too few people willing to bid that high. Try $90 then when it peeks people will be willing to bid lower or lose out. But the question is, do you have enough people willing to tip it in order to force people to lower the price?

David Ames

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/335451#Comment_335451

Because of the number of classic commentaries that are already in the pipeline, I am willing to let this one wait for another six months or so. My wallet is very slim right now.

My wallet is also slim but this is one of the few sets that I want so please don't make me wait "another six months or so"

[It would be nice to use these to study the end times before the end times are history]

David Bailey

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/335451#Comment_335451

Because of the number of classic commentaries that are already in the pipeline, I am willing to let this one wait for another six months or so. My wallet is very slim right now.

Agreed! Besides, the $160 price is too steep for me. Maybe Jesus will return and world will end before this commentary set crosses the finish line. [:P]

Dean J

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/335534#Comment_335534

Mine is at $70, and although the $50 is too low, it still seems to me that there is more chance that it will beat out the $160 than a higher price. None of the $160 bidders appear to have changed their bid, so it looks like getting more bidders in at $50 is the only thing that will get this moving again.

David Wilson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/335489#Comment_335489

Problem is, if Logos decide to 'help' this one before we get it to $50,

My guess is that Logos "contract out" some of these Community Pricing sets, and set the publication cost based on estimates of what it is going to take to get the book into Logos format. As people get more time freed up and get the chance to take a closer look at the project and whatever resources they are starting from, they may feel the estimated production cost can be lowered. If that were so, we might suddenly see the 100% line moved down a chunk and it would take less bidders at any level to get it into production. It feels like that has been happening from time to time. That we rarely see production cost estimates go up would tend to mean that those doing intial estimates are not in the habit of estimating on the low side.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/335837#Comment_335837

That we rarely see production cost estimates go up would tend to mean that those doing intial estimates are not in the habit of estimating on the low side.

It has happened. The Lexham Discourse Hebrew Bible Bundle made a sudden drop of about 10-15 percentage points at one time, and the Synopsis of the Greek Sources for the Hasmonean Period recently dropped almost 50.

But I agree with you that the sudden jumps are far more likely to have to do with changes in estimated production costs than with Logos "helping" certain resources (though in some cases it might also be some professor that recommends it, or some blog that mentions it; things can spread so incredibly fast these days, with blogs and Twitter and 'Likes').

EDIT: Renegotiated contracts may also be a factor. A publisher that initially wants a large share might be willing to settle for less if the product is still lingering after a year or two, which means that, with the same price for us, fewer buyers are suddenly needed to bring it into production.

Michael A. Lasley

We need $160 bidders to change to $50. Just try it for a week and see what happens. I had my bid at $160 also for months. Are there $160 bidders out there? Maybe they don't read the forums?

Friedrich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/336940#Comment_336940

i don't think changing the bid from $160 to $50 will up the point on $50, it will just lower the $160 point. Which will be helpful because it may reduce anxiety that the set will only go for that high an amount and others may place bids @$50.

Barnes' Notes languished for years (YEARS!!) and finally got published. Revelation will too. Have faith, grasshoppas . . .

Evan Boardman

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/336967#Comment_336967

Barnes' Notes languished for years (YEARS!!) and finally got published. Revelation will too.

I think Matthew Poole was there before Barnes and its still there. A shame to, its a fine work and the reason why I also use Bible Explorer.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/336967#Comment_336967

i don't think changing the bid from $160 to $50 will up the point on $50, it will just lower the $160 point. Which will be helpful because it may reduce anxiety that the set will only go for that high an amount and others may place bids @$50.

Yes, that's the point. Not to raise the $50 point initially, but to lower the intimidation factor of the $160 point so that more $50 bidders come on board, and that will raise the $50 point.

Friedrich

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/336978#Comment_336978

Barnes' Notes languished for years (YEARS!!) and finally got published. Revelation will too.

I think Matthew Poole was there before Barnes and its still there. A shame to, its a fine work and the reason why I also use Bible Explorer.

wow. now that's a long time.

David Bailey

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/337032#Comment_337032

Yes, that's the point. Not to raise the $50 point initially, but to lower the intimidation factor of the $160 point so that more $50 bidders come on board, and that will raise the $50 point.

[Y] Yes, we need new bidders.

Dean J

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/337032#Comment_337032

Despite always being talked about, the Revelation set has not moved recently. I really hope this one gets moving soon as it's a high priority for me. But unless some of the higher bidders change their bids, it doesn't look like people are willing to come on board at $50.