Hebrew Bible search, including vowel pointing

I am trying to search the Hebrew Scripture for מֵאֵת. I just want to search for the manuscript form and not the lemmas. But when I enter this word in the search box, it seems to return all verses with this consonant pattern, including ones with other vowel pointings. What am I doing wrong?

מֵאֵת

mē·ʾēṯ

מן · את

from · with

from · (with)

PM · PW

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Dave Hooton

Try searching (in Morph Search) with:-

מֵאֵת WITHIN 0 chars @P

i.e. find the form that is tagged as a preposition

Wyn Laidig

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/339304#Comment_339304

Dave,

That helps. Strange, however, that I basically get 3 results for each verse, one for the manuscript form, and 1 for each of the two associated Lemmas:

ALSO, I am still puzzled why this is necessary. Is this a bug in Logos? It seems that if I perform a search of a Hebrew word that includes vowels, I should just get only what I am searching for, and not words with other vowel patterns as well.

Rosie Perera

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/339316#Comment_339316

ALSO, I am still puzzled why this is necessary. Is this a bug in Logos? It seems that if I perform a search of a Hebrew word that includes vowels, I should just get only what I am searching for, and not words with other vowel patterns as well.

Logos has never been able to do vowel pointing sensitive searches in Hebrew. It's been a problem for a while. I'm not sure if anyone has formally brought it up as a request in the Suggestions forum or UserVoice (don't think so), but there was no Logos employee response on this old thread: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/8571.aspx

Room4more

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/339319#Comment_339319

Hmmm……Maybe try this[you are searching for a word that has a prep; I.E. hundred(100) + (something else):

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/339316#Comment_339316

That helps. Strange, however, that I basically get 3 results for each verse, one for the manuscript form, and 1 for each of the two associated Lemmas:

Depending on the resource (!) you would get 2x results for a search like this - one for the word and one for the morphology. Because two morphologies are associated with the word you get 3x results. It's a bug I've tried to get Logos to eradicate because we are searching for ONE word with particular attributes whereas מֵאֵת WITHIN 2 words @P is searching for multiple words.

Room4more

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/339351#Comment_339351

Yuppers I would have to agree, yet he could change his k-board to the 'He' and type in the part he wants to search for, and break it down, depends on what he is after[or me'yah, may-yaw'; probably a primitive numeral; a hundred; also as a multiplicative and a fraction :- hundred ([-fold], -th), + sixscore] :