OSX 10.8
Logos 4 is not compatible with OSX 10.8
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James - Welcome to the forums. Why do you think Logos is not compatible? Are you using a developers copy? Can you be more specific?
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Just finished installing myself and can confirm Logos crashes on startup. Hope there is a fix so we don't have to uninstall Mountain Lion.
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Cliff Diamond said:
Just finished installing myself and can confirm Logos crashes on startup. Hope there is a fix so we don't have to uninstall Mountain Lion.
The Developer Preview was only released today, so (until now) our developers haven't had the opportunity to investigate and fix compatibility issues.
We will post an announcement when a version of Logos 4 that is compatible with OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion is available. (Again, since the Developer Preview only came out today, we don't have an estimate for when an updated version of Logos 4 will be available, but it's likely to be close to (but before) the official release of 10.8 this summer.)
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Bradley Grainger said:
we don't have an estimate for when an updated version of Logos 4 will be available, but it's likely to be close to (but before) the official release of 10.8 this summer.)
James - This is similar to what happened with Lion last year.
Bradley - I hope we will see some more Lion features implemented at that point (hint, hint). [:)]
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Bradley Grainger said:
The Developer Preview was only released today, so (until now) our developers haven't had the opportunity to investigate and fix compatibility issues.
We will post an announcement when a version of Logos 4 that is compatible with OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion is available. (Again, since the Developer Preview only came out today, we don't have an estimate for when an updated version of Logos 4 will be available, but it's likely to be close to (but before) the official release of 10.8 this summer.)
I'm downloading Mountain Lion now. It may be too soon to answer this question, but when you say you "will post an announcement when a version of Logos that is compatible with OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion is available," do you know if that will be a regular build, a beta build or something different? Just curious.
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R. Mansfield said:
do you know if that will be a regular build, a beta build or something different?
The developers are obviously just getting a peek at the software now, as you are (insert Napoleon Dynamite "Lucky!"). If I remember correctly, a service release came out last year just in time for the release of Lion. I assume that the SR went through the same beta process of other releases, and would anticipate the same with this future SR.
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alabama24 said:R. Mansfield said:
do you know if that will be a regular build, a beta build or something different?
The developers are obviously just getting a peek at the software now, as you are (insert Napoleon Dynamite "Lucky!"). If I remember correctly, a service release came out last year just in time for the release of Lion. I assume that the SR went through the same beta process of other releases, and would anticipate the same with this future SR.
I went ahead with the install. It's true that Logos 4 won't run. So far, though, every other program works fine. If Logos waits until until a "just in time" window like you describe above, I guess that means about four or more months without Logos for me.
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R. Mansfield said:
I went ahead with the install. It's true that Logos 4 won't run. So far, though, every other program works fine. If Logos waits until until a "just in time" window like you describe above, I guess that means about four or more months without Logos for me.
Rick, while I understand the annoying-ness of Logos being the anomaly, can't you just roll it back to your previous install or is there a pressing need for Mountain Lion?
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Paul Newsome said:
Rick, while I understand the annoying-ness of Logos being the anomaly, can't you just roll it back to your previous install or is there a pressing need for Mountain Lion?
Paul, I'm not certain I can roll it back or not. Certainly, I could simply reinstall Lion, but I would bet that I probably couldn't keep my user folder and settings intact.
Unless I run into major problems, I'll probably just press forward. Apple invited me to participate in the beta through the Appleseed program, so I figured why not?
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I have confirm installation of MAC OS is possible using Virtual Box, so as long as you have the space installing a copy of the old os and putting logos in it should't be an issue. I have not tested Logos under it because it is just installing but then again i just wanted to see if virtual box would do it, I did know my parallels would do it but VB is free. So no need to go back just take a little time to have a second OS X system on you machine.
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That's a good idea, Dan. I bet I could do it in VMWare, which I have loaded. Or I could simply load Logos in the Win 7 install I have in VMWare until the Mac version is working again.
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Wonder if OS X 10.8 Gatekeeper settings affect Logos 4 Mac ?
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Wonder if OS X 10.8 Gatekeeper settings affect Logos 4 Mac ?
After I read an article tonight, I wondered the same thing. Inquiring minds want to know.
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No, Gatekeeper really only affects installation of programs. Regardless, I've got my security settings set to allow anything from any source to install.
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R. Mansfield said:
It may be too soon to answer this question, but when you say you "will post an announcement when a version of Logos that is compatible with OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion is available," do you know if that will be a regular build, a beta build or something different?
Like most new features, this will very likely be released first as part of a beta (for testing), then make its way into a regular build.
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As a practical matter don't be too surprised if this takes awhile, due to the dependence on mono. Besides, there isn't all that much time between the dp and general release.
While I'd like a quick patch as much as anyone and was also disappointed that logos has been the only incompatibility I've run into (so far), being realistic anyone who is running 10.8 and needs logos probably should plan on running lion in a vm or re-installing lion. Not sure which I'll do yet. C'est la vie.
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Bradley Grainger said:Cliff Diamond said:
Just finished installing myself and can confirm Logos crashes on startup. Hope there is a fix so we don't have to uninstall Mountain Lion.
The Developer Preview was only released today, so (until now) our developers haven't had the opportunity to investigate and fix compatibility issues.
We will post an announcement when a version of Logos 4 that is compatible with OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion is available. (Again, since the Developer Preview only came out today, we don't have an estimate for when an updated version of Logos 4 will be available, but it's likely to be close to (but before) the official release of 10.8 this summer.)
I agree and more! C'mon it is totally unrealistic to expect to get a pre-release copy of an OS and then plonk something like L4M on it with the expectation that it will be a guaranteed work.
Apple says... don't put on production machines.
Also I would be a bit annoyed if Logos siphoned off resources chasing a moving target like getting L4M to work on work in progress pre-release Mountain Lion.
Having said all that, of course Logos will/should be looking into compatibility with new OS - but it's not summer yet! So why is this question being posted in the first place.
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Apple released Mountain Lion to developers precisely so that they could start working to ensure compatibility. There's every reason to believe that Logos will have their software running in Mountain Lion well before it actually ships, and no reason why users shouldn't be kept posted on their progress.
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Reality Check guys: I was just recently ( last couple months ) told the problems I had were related to Lion, the program worked fine in Leopard, but Lion was still new-they were working on it.
Therefore: If Logos is still not fully functional and stable in Lion, it is pure fantasy to think it is going to be working in ML anytime soon if there are any major changes to base code in ML .
Logos is still NOT stable in Lion, much less something new and improved.
BTW, Accordance already works in ML.
My point there is that something is still wrong in Logos code structure concerning OSX ( don't know a blooming typing about Mono or any of that kind of stuff ) .
I highly recommend one "does not" upgrade to MT if one depends on Logos as a Pastor or Student, Logos will be behind the curve as they are still trying to catch up to programming in OSX.
Blessings.
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I have no stability issues with Logos in Lion. It runs clean and fast without any crashing or issues. I'm sorry if that is not your experience but it's defiantly not everyone's.
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R. Mansfield said:
That's a good idea, Dan. I bet I could do it in VMWare, which I have loaded. Or I could simply load Logos in the Win 7 install I have in VMWare until the Mac version is working again.
Update: VMWare is now the second program I've run into that won't run in Mountain Lion. However, they are usually pretty quick to respond to these kinds of issues, so I'd expect VMWare to update sometime soon. Then I can install Logos temporarily in Windows 7 while waiting for a ML update for Logos/Mac.
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Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:
BTW, Accordance already works in ML.
Accordance has the advantage of being a Mac only app. Logos must work with Logos and Windows and they can't seem to keep them both aligned while taking advantage of the uniqueness of each platform.
I'd be curious to learn how many of the Mac devs working with Logos are people who started on OSX or jumped from Windows to OSX for the purpose of creating Lgoos in Mac. I wonder because it could be the problems like this might come from learning on the fly.
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Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:
Logos is still NOT stable in Lion
Hardly surprising, considering that it's also not stable in Snow Leopard. I rarely have less than 2-3 crashes a day if I'm stupid enough to actually try to use the program for actual work.
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Kevin A. Purcell said:
I'd be curious to learn how many of the Mac devs working with Logos are people who started on OSX or jumped from Windows to OSX for the purpose of creating Lgoos in Mac. I wonder because it could be the problems like this might come from learning on the fly.
We've already been told that only one or two Mac devs had any professional experience on Mac before joining Logos.
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I am glad it works well for you Alexander.
The forums themselves are an ongoing testimony to the lack of stability across the Osx lineup.
To be fair, the stability issues do vary from unit to unit and related to resources and type of use.
I was not being ugly, just stating the fact that Logos is not stable across the Mac Platform which is something Logos itself admits.
Blessings
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Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:
I am glad it works well for you Alexander.
The forums themselves are an ongoing testimony to the lack of stability across the Osx lineup.
To be fair, the stability issues do vary from unit to unit and related to resources and type of use.
I was not being ugly, just stating the fact that Logos is not stable across the Mac Platform which is something Logos itself admits.
Blessings
You have to remember, however, that forums are the place for complains and issues. If the number of users is correct from customer service, the vast majority of people are using the application without issue. Have you tried to reach out to technical support with the error logs you have when you do have stability issues?
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R. Mansfield said:
Update: VMWare is now the second program I've run into that won't run in Lion. However, they are usually pretty quick to respond to these kinds of issues, so I'd expect VMWare to update sometime soon. Then I can install Logos temporarily in Windows 7 while waiting for a ML update for Logos/Mac.
You have troubles running VMware? They already have a VMware Fusion version enhanced for Lion some time ago. If you are running the latest version of Fusion (4.1.1) and are having issues then it would be more likely your Mac machine.
I don't use Fusion anymore I switched to Parallels because VMware were too greedy with their upgrade from 3 to 4.
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Sorry--my mistake. VMWare won't run in MOUNTAIN LION. It worked fine for me in Lion.
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Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:
Logos is still NOT stable in Lion, much less something new and improved.
Well that is not everyone's experience, so there needs to be balanced feedback.
Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:BTW, Accordance already works in ML.
Yes well they have the advantage of being a native Mac application. So there would be expectation that it would have less issues with new versions of OS X, good on them. On the other hand Logos 4 has more resources and a more functional, dare I say 'powerful', interface.
Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:My point there is that something is still wrong in Logos code structure concerning OSX ( don't know a blooming typing about Mono or any of that kind of stuff ) .
Well everyone knows I have done quite a few posts regarding the whole Mono topic. Eventually though, on one level (the user experience level) it doesn't matter about Mono - as long as Mono does not become the overriding 'weakest link' in Logos for Mac.
There are just as much Mac native UI performance/reliability issues in Logos for Mac which it seems that are now being addressed. And unless I am mistaken the indexing code has improved since around version 4.3.
Fr. Charles R. Matheny said:I highly recommend one "does not" upgrade to MT if one depends on Logos as a Pastor or Student, Logos will be behind the curve as they are still trying to catch up to programming in OSX.
One should not be upgrading to 10.8.x 'Mountain Lion' (ML) at all unless they are a professional developer because, actually, there is nothing to 'upgrade' to. It is not released, it doesn't exist. It is beta. Apple says don't install it on production machines. So really there should be no discussion or expectation at this time by people from Logos in any way related to ML. The only expectation should be that Logos should, if it has any brains [which I am sure they do], immediately be starting to test with ML. I see also that there is a new compiler with the latest version of Xcode.
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Patrick S. said:
On the other hand Logos 4 has ... a more functional, dare I say 'powerful', interface.
Highly debatable, but this is not the proper venue for such a debate. Nevertheless, as someone significantly invested in both platforms, I couldn't let that little jab slip by without at least a minor response.
Patrick S. said:One should not be upgrading to 10.8.x 'Mountain Lion' (ML) at all unless they are a professional developer
I highly disagree with this, too. Apple didn't just release the beta to developers; they also released it to non-developers such as myself via the the AppleSeed program. I have no idea of which there is more--developers or participants in the AppleSeed program--but the fact remains that there are a lot of us non-developers taking Mountain Lion for a walk. I have no idea why Apple invited me to be a part of the AppleSeed program a year or so ago because from what I understand, it's invite-only (I didn't sign up anywhere for it). But obviously Apple wants to see how their new OS runs in other contexts before its general release besides just providing advance copies for developers of third-party software.
Patrick S. said:because, actually, there is nothing to 'upgrade' to. It is not released, it doesn't exist. It is a beta.Do you feel the same way about beta versions of Logos software? I've participated in the Logos/Mac beta program like a lot of other people on this board and like a lot of Windows users for Logos/Win. As far as I know, it's open to anyone who wants to participate. Do you discourage non-participation in this, too, because it's "not released...doesn't exist [and] is a beta"?Patrick S. said:So really there should be no discussion or expectation at this time by people from Logos in any way related to ML.
Funny, I find discussion healthy as long as it's not unkind or belligerent. On the other hand, I tend to be wary of those who want to dissuade normal kinds of discussion.
The fact that Logos doesn't work in the first beta release of OS X 10.8/Mountain Lion is not a knock against Logos. It's neither good nor bad. It merely is what it is. I don't blame Logos developers, and at this stage in the game, don't expect anything from them.
As a user, though, if I weren't running Mountain Lion, I'd want to know this fact so that I could keep a watchful eye on the developments of both for when 10.8 is released.
Since I am running Mountain Lion, I'd be glad to help Logos test a working beta for it as soon as one becomes available. None of this, however, is reason for anyone to get upset or defensive, which is what I've seen a little bit of in this thread.
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Logos is hiring => http://www.logos.com/about/careers that includes => http://www.logos.com/jobs/SoftwareDeveloper
Observation: Logos developers tend to reply more to Beta forum discussions => Mac Beta and => PC Beta
Wiki has => Logos 4 Beta Program
Curious which Logos 4 version(s) crash on OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion ?
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R. Mansfield said:
The version I have installed is 4.50.1893.
The current beta is 4.51.0.2020 and can be downloaded HERE. You can also use the command set update channel to beta in the command box. More info can be found HERE. If you want to test the latest & greatest, that is where you would get it. Word of warning: it is BETA software. Ideally you would have two computers to use - one with Mountain Lion & L4 beta; another with Lion & L4 stable.
My only concern about this thread is that it isn't fair to gripe and complain (not that you necessarily were) about Logos not working on a just released beta version of OSX. It is one thing to make people aware that Mountain Lion crashes Logos, it is quite another to bash the developers over it. It is also fair for some of us to remind users of the status of the OS build.
By the way, there is a forum for the beta: HERE.
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alabama24 said:R. Mansfield said:
The version I have installed is 4.50.1893.
The current beta is 4.51.0.2020 and can be downloaded HERE. You can also use the command set update channel to beta in the command box. More info can be found HERE. If you want to test the latest & greatest, that is where you would get it. Word of warning: it is BETA software. Ideally you would have two computers to use - one with Mountain Lion & L4 beta; another with Lion & L4 stable.
My only concern about this thread is that it isn't fair to gripe and complain (not that you necessarily were) about Logos not working on a just released beta version of OSX. It is one thing to make people aware that Mountain Lion crashes Logos, it is quite another to bash the developers over it. It is also fair for some of us to remind users of the status of the OS build.
By the way, there is a forum for the beta: HERE.
alabama24, I'm not certain why you quoted me at the beginning of your comments. In my post before last, I defended the developers. I've certainly not bashed or griped. I also stated that I've used the Logos beta builds before, so obviously, I know where to find them and know that there's a beta forum. I posted in this forum because there was already a thread in progress about Mountain Lion, and I was not currently running the beta build, but the regular one.
Again I don't know why I was quoted before your response that followed.
Incidentally, the beta build you linked to above (build 4.51.2020) crashes in Mountain Lion, too; but I'll make a separate post to that effect in the beta forum now that I've had a chance to test that for myself.
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Hey Guys: First: was not trying to start an argument or be ugly- just stating known facts and hoping to help people who might not understand that upgrading to ML is highly risky and at ones own risk.
I apologize for my post offending "anyone" and sending the thread off track, it was not intentional.
Second: Yes, report my issues to tech support, done screen-shares and all of that, of my several issues , some could not be fixed at that time and I was told: These are known issues with Lion.
Some issues were reported as "new issues that were not known, again related to Lion as they did not appear in Leopard.
Some of my issues have been resolved with the recent updates, some not.
Same reports: Some Issues are related to Lion and are being worked on by developers.
So, let me be very clear: There are "known issues in Logos for Mac that are related to OSX Lion" as per Logos tech support.
Third: I believe the Owner of Logos recently posted on the Forums concerning the fact there are indeed known issues with Logos for Mac and- They are working on it.
Therefore, I was simply reminding us all that there are still ongoing issues related to Lion that are under development.
We cannot expect Developers or Tech Support to deal with User issues related to ML while they are trying to work out the already known issues and, I feel sure, looking at ML on their own.
They may well appreciate any info people can give related to ML , but beyond that, I doubt they have time for user issues related to ML.
Next: I mentioned Accordance because it is working , and if you are duel use, you are not crippled and, in case the developers saw the thread, who knows, it may be helpful to know.
I was not trying to "disrespect Logos" ( I have a sizable investment tied up in Logos) , however, the point stands that Logos is still behind and trying to catch up "when it comes to Osx". There is no harm in saying that, it is true.
Logos is dual platform and does not have the many years of experience in Mac/Osx that Accordance does.
What they are trying to do is admirable, though not where any of us want it to be yet.
Discussion is good, comparisons are good, benchmarks are good and both platforms have much to offer, yet, we are not comparing Apples to Apples ( excuse the pun ).
While they have many things in common, they are not the same and there is no reason, in my opinion, for us to get upset about it.
I own both, use both daily, and use them for different functions, where they overlap is just a plus.
Lastly: I think it is a good thing Apple makes these changes open to some of the public as well as developers. Regular users do things developers do not ( in general ) because each person has individual ways of going about things. The whole idea is to see what "breaks" and what does not. With this comes the ability to see the Os under many different situations, with different settings, other software in play, so forth and so on. I am willing to bet "a dollar and against a donut hole" Apple is as interested in ML breaking Logos as Logos is.
Again, just don't want to see people ( if ML available to them ) lose their ability to do their work if Logos is critical to said work.
Hope this helps, didn't mean any harm.
Blessings of Grace and Peace to all.
P.S. Nice Blog Rick.
Thanks for the recent updates to the Developers.
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Alexander Longacre said:
I have no stability issues with Logos in Lion. It runs clean and fast without any crashing or issues. I'm sorry if that is not your experience but it's defiantly not everyone's.
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it is getting better, wish I was one of the ones that didn't have crashes and such.
You lucky guys! Smile.
Now don't lead me into Envy-smile.
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R. Mansfield said:
alabama24, I'm not certain why you quoted me at the beginning of your comments.
I just quoted you to compare your build with the latest beta. No offense meant. [:)]
R. Mansfield said:I also stated that I've used the Logos beta builds before, so obviously, I know where to find them and know that there's a beta forum.
I am sorry, I didn't catch that. I didn't understand that you have used Logos beta before.
R. Mansfield said:Since I am running Mountain Lion, I'd be glad to help Logos test a working beta for it as soon as one becomes available.
This was the statement that confused me… I was just trying to give you direction to where you will find the beta becomes available, but apparently you knew that already. [:)]
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I purchased logos just a few days after I installed Lion. I have zero trouble with the L4. 4.5 SR-5 (4.50.0.1893)
How will I know when Logos will be stable for ML? Stable might not be the right word after reading the past 3 pages in this forum, but in what forum will they let us know that Logos4 is ML ready.Thanks
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rkponder said:
How will I know when Logos will be stable for ML?
There will be plenty of discussion about it as the time draws near. If you haven't heard anything by release date, don't buy it yet.
rkponder said:Stable might not be the right word after reading the past 3 pages in this forum, but in what forum will they let us know that Logos4 is ML ready.
I anticipate if there are any problems, Logos will let us know about it beforehand. This identical conversation happened last year:
http://community.logos.com/forums/t/33538.aspx
http://community.logos.com/forums/t/35927.aspx?PageIndex=1
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alabama24 said:rkponder said:
How will I know when Logos will be stable for ML?
There will be plenty of discussion about it as the time draws near. If you haven't heard anything by release date, don't buy it yet.
Anticipating future wiki => Mac Release Notes and History update with comment about OS X Mountain Lion compatible
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R. Mansfield said:Patrick S. said:
On the other hand Logos 4 has ... a more functional, dare I say 'powerful', interface.
Highly debatable, but this is not the proper venue for such a debate. Nevertheless, as someone significantly invested in both platforms, I couldn't let that little jab slip by without at least a minor response.
I also have both platforms. In this case 'debatable' is the key word, i.e. everyone has an opinion and discussion is not going to get anywhere. So let's leave it there [:#] [:)]
R. Mansfield said:Patrick S. said:One should not be upgrading to 10.8.x 'Mountain Lion' (ML) at all unless they are a professional developer
I highly disagree with this, too. Apple didn't just release the beta to developers; they also released it to non-developers such as myself via the the AppleSeed program. I have no idea of which there is more--developers or participants in the AppleSeed program--but the fact remains that there are a lot of us non-developers taking Mountain Lion for a walk. I have no idea why Apple invited me to be a part of the AppleSeed program a year or so ago because from what I understand, it's invite-only (I didn't sign up anywhere for it). But obviously Apple wants to see how their new OS runs in other contexts before its general release besides just providing advance copies for developers of third-party software.
I also have been invited by Apple to various AppleSeed programs. And if you read the 'fine print' they will see they strongly warn to only install the test software on spare/non production/non critical machines. It's test software. Why do they release to a broader audience? Well to try the software in as many configurations etc. as possible — on the understanding that being test software it can crash and burn, so don't go crying to Apple when (not if) it does.
For this whole point about testing (beta) software vs. released software let's use the analogy of flying [in] a plane — being either a test pilot or a paying passenger.
That is, the difference is someone is either a) Chuck Yeager (with the 'Right Stuff') strapped into a flying bomb or b) a passive passenger warming the seat of a flying lounge chair. And the consideration is which of these two 'modes of transport' would you entrust your most precious things (in this analogy your family) to. Would you strap your wife and children into the X-1, or seat them in a modern commercial jumbo jet (747, A380)?
Sometimes during testing things crash and burn. If someone wants to take up their wife and kids (their Logos 4 installation) in the X-1 (Mountain Lion) instead of the jumbo jet (SL/Lion) well.... Like Chuck Yeager I would say "honey! whatcha doing in here?!?! This is a test plane, it's too dangerous, get out!"
R. Mansfield said:Patrick S. said:
because, actually, there is nothing to 'upgrade' to. It is not released, it doesn't exist. It is a beta.
Do you feel the same way about beta versions of Logos software? I've participated in the Logos/Mac beta program like a lot of other people on this board and like a lot of Windows users for Logos/Win. As far as I know, it's open to anyone who wants to participate. Do you discourage non-participation in this, too, because it's "not released...doesn't exist [and] is a beta"?A beta from Apple, for the real purpose of testing, and a beta from Logos, for the purpose of quietening down people baying for a Mac version of Logos 4 are two totally different things. People have this concept that beta software means 'hey I get the software early'. No — it means you get the software early and there is a cost involved. Which could be, depending on the software being tested, as bad as all the data on your whole computer getting fried.
R. Mansfield said:Patrick S. said:So really there should be no discussion or expectation at this time by people from Logos in any way related to ML.
Funny, I find discussion healthy as long as it's not unkind or belligerent. On the other hand, I tend to be wary of those who want to dissuade normal kinds of discussion.
The fact that Logos doesn't work in the first beta release of OS X 10.8/Mountain Lion is not a knock against Logos. It's neither good nor bad. It merely is what it is. I don't blame Logos developers, and at this stage in the game, don't expect anything from them.
As a user, though, if I weren't running Mountain Lion, I'd want to know this fact so that I could keep a watchful eye on the developments of both for when 10.8 is released.
Since I am running Mountain Lion, I'd be glad to help Logos test a working beta for it as soon as one becomes available. None of this, however, is reason for anyone to get upset or defensive, which is what I've seen a little bit of in this thread.
I'm not dissuading discussion — just unreality. When someone says "Logos 4 is not compatible with OSX 10.8" with what seems the unspoken implication of "hey dudes it should be". Then really I think that people's wrong perception of what beta/testing software is needs to be educated, otherwise I can imagine people strapping their families into X-1s.
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This forum thread began with the post "Logos 4 is not compatible with OSX 10.8". The only implication I see is the notification by a Logos 4 user that software compatibility with the latest developer release needs to be addressed. I don't expect Logos to be instantly compatible with pre-release software, but I do expect transparency and open communication during the development process.
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Mark Allison said:
I don't expect Logos to be instantly compatible with pre-release software, but I do expect transparency and open communication during the development process.
Read the fourth post in the thread. It's transparent and open communication:
Bradley Grainger said:The Developer Preview was only released today, so (until now) our developers haven't had the opportunity to investigate and fix compatibility issues.
We will post an announcement when a version of Logos 4 that is compatible with OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion is available. (Again, since the Developer Preview only came out today, we don't have an estimate for when an updated version of Logos 4 will be available, but it's likely to be close to (but before) the official release of 10.8 this summer.)
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alabama24 said:
Read the fourth post in the thread. It's transparent and open communication:
Exactly. And that's what I expect. It was the proper response to the original post.
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Mark Allison said:
Exactly. And that's what I expect. It was the proper response to the original post.
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alabama24 said:Mark Allison said:
Exactly. And that's what I expect. It was the proper response to the original post.
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