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As a practical matter don't be too surprised if this takes awhile, due to the dependence on mono. Besides, there isn't all that much time between the dp and general release.
While I'd like a quick patch as much as anyone and was also disappointed that logos has been the only incompatibility I've run into (so far), being realistic anyone who is running 10.8 and needs logos probably should plan on running lion in a vm or re-installing lion. Not sure which I'll do yet. C'est la vie.
All I want is for Logos 4.8 to be compatible with OSX 10.9
All I want is for Logos 4.8 to be compatible with OSX 10.9
All I want is for Logos 4.8 Logos 5 to be compatible with OSX 10.9. [:)]
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Hey, saw this link on Twitter and it seemed relevant to this discussion.
How to get Mountain Lion to work in VMware: either don't instal the VMware Tools, or follow these instructions.
All I want is for Logos 4.8 Logos 5 to be compatible with OSX 10.9.
All I want is for Logos 4.8 Logos 5 to be compatible with OSX 10.9 OSX 11. [;)]
James - Welcome to the forums. Why do you think Logos is not compatible? Are you using a developers copy? Can you be more specific?
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Just finished installing myself and can confirm Logos crashes on startup. Hope there is a fix so we don't have to uninstall Mountain Lion.
The Developer Preview was only released today, so (until now) our developers haven't had the opportunity to investigate and fix compatibility issues.
We will post an announcement when a version of Logos 4 that is compatible with OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion is available. (Again, since the Developer Preview only came out today, we don't have an estimate for when an updated version of Logos 4 will be available, but it's likely to be close to (but before) the official release of 10.8 this summer.)
James - This is similar to what happened with Lion last year.
Bradley - I hope we will see some more Lion features implemented at that point (hint, hint). [:)]
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I'm downloading Mountain Lion now. It may be too soon to answer this question, but when you say you "will post an announcement when a version of Logos that is compatible with OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion is available," do you know if that will be a regular build, a beta build or something different? Just curious.
I agree and more! C'mon it is totally unrealistic to expect to get a pre-release copy of an OS and then plonk something like L4M on it with the expectation that it will be a guaranteed work.
Apple says... don't put on production machines.
Also I would be a bit annoyed if Logos siphoned off resources chasing a moving target like getting L4M to work on work in progress pre-release Mountain Lion.
Having said all that, of course Logos will/should be looking into compatibility with new OS - but it's not summer yet! So why is this question being posted in the first place.
"I want to know all God's thoughts; the rest are just details." - Albert Einstein
Apple released Mountain Lion to developers precisely so that they could start working to ensure compatibility. There's every reason to believe that Logos will have their software running in Mountain Lion well before it actually ships, and no reason why users shouldn't be kept posted on their progress.
Reality Check guys: I was just recently ( last couple months ) told the problems I had were related to Lion, the program worked fine in Leopard, but Lion was still new-they were working on it.
Therefore: If Logos is still not fully functional and stable in Lion, it is pure fantasy to think it is going to be working in ML anytime soon if there are any major changes to base code in ML .
Logos is still NOT stable in Lion, much less something new and improved.
BTW, Accordance already works in ML.
My point there is that something is still wrong in Logos code structure concerning OSX ( don't know a blooming typing about Mono or any of that kind of stuff ) .
I highly recommend one "does not" upgrade to MT if one depends on Logos as a Pastor or Student, Logos will be behind the curve as they are still trying to catch up to programming in OSX.
Blessings.
Well that is not everyone's experience, so there needs to be balanced feedback.
Yes well they have the advantage of being a native Mac application. So there would be expectation that it would have less issues with new versions of OS X, good on them. On the other hand Logos 4 has more resources and a more functional, dare I say 'powerful', interface.
Well everyone knows I have done quite a few posts regarding the whole Mono topic. Eventually though, on one level (the user experience level) it doesn't matter about Mono - as long as Mono does not become the overriding 'weakest link' in Logos for Mac.
There are just as much Mac native UI performance/reliability issues in Logos for Mac which it seems that are now being addressed. And unless I am mistaken the indexing code has improved since around version 4.3.
One should not be upgrading to 10.8.x 'Mountain Lion' (ML) at all unless they are a professional developer because, actually, there is nothing to 'upgrade' to. It is not released, it doesn't exist. It is beta. Apple says don't install it on production machines. So really there should be no discussion or expectation at this time by people from Logos in any way related to ML. The only expectation should be that Logos should, if it has any brains [which I am sure they do], immediately be starting to test with ML. I see also that there is a new compiler with the latest version of Xcode.
"I want to know all God's thoughts; the rest are just details." - Albert Einstein
Highly debatable, but this is not the proper venue for such a debate. Nevertheless, as someone significantly invested in both platforms, I couldn't let that little jab slip by without at least a minor response.
I highly disagree with this, too. Apple didn't just release the beta to developers; they also released it to non-developers such as myself via the the AppleSeed program. I have no idea of which there is more--developers or participants in the AppleSeed program--but the fact remains that there are a lot of us non-developers taking Mountain Lion for a walk. I have no idea why Apple invited me to be a part of the AppleSeed program a year or so ago because from what I understand, it's invite-only (I didn't sign up anywhere for it). But obviously Apple wants to see how their new OS runs in other contexts before its general release besides just providing advance copies for developers of third-party software.
Funny, I find discussion healthy as long as it's not unkind or belligerent. On the other hand, I tend to be wary of those who want to dissuade normal kinds of discussion.
The fact that Logos doesn't work in the first beta release of OS X 10.8/Mountain Lion is not a knock against Logos. It's neither good nor bad. It merely is what it is. I don't blame Logos developers, and at this stage in the game, don't expect anything from them.
As a user, though, if I weren't running Mountain Lion, I'd want to know this fact so that I could keep a watchful eye on the developments of both for when 10.8 is released.
Since I am running Mountain Lion, I'd be glad to help Logos test a working beta for it as soon as one becomes available. None of this, however, is reason for anyone to get upset or defensive, which is what I've seen a little bit of in this thread.
10.8 is considered a "pre-developers copy."