NEED HELP! Does anyone have in print "Nelson's New Illustrated Bible Dictionary?

Does anyone have in print "Nelson's New Illustrated Bible Dictionary? I am trying to footnote this quote and I need the page number for this definition of goodness: (the part that I have underlined).

Unfortunately my Logos book does not have page numbers for this book. Sad

GOODNESS — the quality of being good; praiseworthy character; moral excellence. The Bible speaks often of the goodness of God (Ex. 33:19; Rom. 2:4). God’s goodness consists of righteousness, holiness, justice, kindness, grace, mercy, and love. Goodness is also one of the fruits of the Spirit that should characterize Christian believers (Gal. 5:22). Christians are called to goodness, even as God the Father is perfect and good (Matt. 5:48).

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JT (alabama24)

I am trying to footnote this quote

Charlene - I know that it can be irritating to have a resource without page numbers, but in an ever increasing digital world, page numbers are becoming a relic of the past. Your style guide (i.e. "turabian") will have guidelines for sourcing electronic resources without page numbers. If you have questions, you should contact your professor.

Charlene

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/340359#Comment_340359

Charlene - I know that it can be irritating to have a resource without page numbers, but in an ever increasing digital world, page numbers are becoming a relic of the past. Your style guide (i.e. "turabian") will have guidelines for sourcing electronic resources without page numbers. If you have questions, you should contact your professor.

Hi Alabama24,

I realize that it is becoming a relic....but until it has completely become "stone age," I still like to use the page numbers![:)]

And actually this is not for school. It is a book that I am writing.

Josh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/340360#Comment_340360

I use Logos for school and this is very frustrating! Sure there is ways to work around this issue but I want Logos to cite properly to begin with.

NetworkGeek

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/340361#Comment_340361

This is not a Logos issue, it's an industry issue, and the decision has been made. I did some Google searching and for scholarly and university work the trend is overwhelmingly accepting that electronic sources do not have page numbers. In fact I didn't find any sites that disqualified electronic sources without page numbers or anything like that; not to say there aren't any, but the citation direction is now well-established.

As a note, several academic institutions stipulate something like this to reflect an electronic source with no page numbers; your guidance may vary based on style requirements to be used:

[quote]When an entry requires that you provide a page but no pages are provided in the source (as in the case of an online-only scholarly journal or a work that appears in an online-only anthology), use the abbreviation n. pag.

Andy

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/340361#Comment_340361

I use Logos for school and this is very frustrating! Sure there is ways to work around this issue but I want Logos to cite properly to begin with.

I agree. Where there is an equivalent print edition, I would expect the electronic resource to incorporate page numbers which match the printed edition.

Something like the EEC is, in my view, a different matter.

Andy

Josh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/340368#Comment_340368

I agree. Where there is an equivalent print edition, I would expect the electronic resource to incorporate page numbers which match the printed edition.

Something like the EEC is, in my view, a different matter.

Andy

Exactly. This is also an issue of Logos not being consistent with how they create their books.

The vast majority of Logos resources are print resources made into electronic resources (as opposed to online-only or electronic-exclusive resources which don't include page numbers by default).

Keith Jones

pg. 515--just happened to have this.

hope this helped.

Charlene

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/340384#Comment_340384

Thanks, Keith!

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/340376#Comment_340376

Thread => No Page Numbers: Very Frustrating includes an observation about Thomas Nelson resource creation for Libronix.

Found another reply => http://community.logos.com/forums/p/35703/268520.aspx#268520 about Thomas Nelson Maps with disk space issues, which could have been a motivator to not include page number tagging in 1995 when resource was digitized for Libronix Library System.

Looking at Logos resource, noticed "Nelson's New Illustrated Bible Dictionary" has English Headword indexing, which could be useful for electronic citations (e.g. "Goodness" is the English Headword).

Keep Smiling [:)]