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I'm in at $40.
I bid $50 and nothing happened. I changed to $80 and the price immediately changed. So I am holding the price at $80 until more of you bid your $40 or $50.
If everyone does this the resource will go through at $80, why not lower your bid? You can change it up until it goes into development.
I wasn't about to pay the pre-pub price for this work being a Calvinist, but I'll be glad to get it at a good price.[:)]
thanks for the additional bidders at $50. I have now changed to $50. The reason I stayed at $80 before is that when I changed to $50 at that time the price went back to $90.
Wasn't this product on prepub at a much higher price?
I wasn't about to pay the pre-pub price for this work being a Calvinist, but I'll be glad to get it at a good price.
Ditto, I am glad to have his writings at this price. I love having resources I don't agree with this is how we learn.
Yes but it didnt get enough interest.
I just noticed this and the going price was already down to $50. I bid $40 for now. Looks like nobody is in at $90 anymore.
It seems to be a different work as it is still being offered on the Pre -Pub page http://www.logos.com/product/9130/john-wesley-collection
Huh? Thanks for pointing that out Ted. That is odd.
Dont confuse John with Charles Wesley. They are brothers. John is known for Methodist movement, Charles for hymns
It seems to be a different work as it is still being offered on the Pre -Pub page http://www.logos.com/product/9130/john-wesley-collection Huh? Thanks for pointing that out Ted. That is odd.
It's not odd. One is for John Wesley and one is for his brother Charles. The John Wesley one started out in CP as well, if I recall, and graduated into prepub. Charles is just a bit behind his older brother.
It seems to be a different work as it is still being offered on the Pre -Pub page http://www.logos.com/product/9130/john-wesley-collection Dont confuse John with Charles Wesley. They are brothers. John is known for Methodist movement, Charles for hymns
Ahh thats my confusion.[:#]
The Works of Charles Wesley (22 vols.) is currently $90. Who in the world places such ridiculous price.
$90 is cheap, people pay double that for half the volumes on pre-pub, people low balling valuable resources is killing community pricing.
I find this to be worth a look, most of my extended family is Methodist or of the Wesleyan tradition . So I am interested to learn a bit more of Charles Wesley. Id be interested in this for the journals, hymns and poetry alone. What a tremendous song-writer! We still sing many of His hymns.
[*] Thanks Ted and Rosie for paying more attention to detail. [*]
I'm right there with you theologically, and no doubt Charles' theology influenced his hymnody, but what you will be buying with this collection is primarily poetry. There are sermons and journal notes, but what you really want to buy in this collection is his God-gifted creative genius.
He's the author of hymns that everybody loves like And Can it Be?, Christ the Lord Is Risen Today, Come Thou Long Expected Jesus, Jesus Lover of My Soul, Hark! the Herald Angels Sing, Soldiers of Christ Arise, and many, many others you're likely familiar with.
You will get to sift through all the expressions of glory to God this poet penned, and I think this is something everyone can appreciate, reformed or no.
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The Works of Charles Wesley (22 vols.) is currently $90. Who in the world places such ridiculous price. $90 is cheap, people pay double that for half the volumes on pre-pub, people low balling valuable resources is killing community pricing.
Why do you think it is killing community pricing? I think it's the opposite. Resources with high bids routinely get stuck in the pipeline. Are you worried that Logos will pull the plug on this program if we're banding together to get lower prices? Logos gets the same amount in total to bring the book into production whether a few people bid a lot or lots of people bid a little, so they shouldn't care. Once it goes over the top into pre-pub, they can set the price at whatever they like.
Mike, I respectfully disagree with you. While I won't call $90 a ridiculous bid for this resource, I think the Community Pricing program is very healthy.and somewhat fun to watch.
Now if you are urgently wanting John Gill or this Wesley Collection I can see you advocating everyone raise their bids to $120. But I am afraid it is the high bid crowd keeping the Classic Commentaries on Revelation from progressing. A "win-win" bidding strategy would be to find a middle ground.and entice moderately interested bidders. (The nickle-increment bidders may be left out in the cold. Or could it be they just like to bid but not buy?)
My worry is that very worthy resources get stuck because people are not making what I see as a realistic (i.e. that will balance demand and cost) bids, of course people must bid no more than they would be willing to pay but I believe people are bidding much less than they are willing to pay due to the prevailing attitude that any bid over $40 is madness. The reason whay I feel this is happeneing is the mismatch between pre-pub and community pricing expectations.
The problem as I see it is many projects will never make it to pre-pub, even though they are very valuable.
....I believe people are bidding much less than they are willing to pay due to the prevailing attitude that any bid over $40 is madness. The reason whay I feel this is happeneing is the mismatch between pre-pub and community pricing expectations.
I give my apologies for calling it "ridiculous", i will edit and change. Please understand me, I am not trying to underestimate the value of Charles Works. I just think that when it is open for public, $90 is too much. I dont want to see this set freezing with a high price as the Classic Commentaries of Revelations
The reason whay I feel this is happeneing is the mismatch between pre-pub and community pricing expectations. The problem as I see it is many projects will never make it to pre-pub, even though they are very valuable.
I understand your concern about that. I am hoping enough users see the value of the resources and eventually push them through. I visualize the process looking like the exodus scene from Cecil B. DeMille's movie Exodus. Some of us are waiting a long time for that huge column of people to start moving before we see any progress. [:D] Maybe we should hire this guy to move the bids along:
Move it!
Please understand me, I am not trying to underestimate the value of Charles Works. I just think that when it is open for public, $90 is too much. I dont want to see this set freezing with a high price as the Classic Commentaries of Revelations
Understood and agree. I would rather see 5000 users buy Wesley at $30 than 500 buy Wesley at $130.
Wow, the bids are going fast, for a few days it reached almost 80%
http://www.logos.com/product/17356/the-works-of-charles-wesley
people low balling valuable resources is killing community pricing.
I frequently low ball a collection just to maintain my hat in the ring. That way I get an email when it is about ready to go prepub. I low ball when I am not willing to pay the higher price. No, we don't push the product to a quick finish. But if the price goes low enough then we help lower it further.
Community pricing is doing much better than it was 3-4 years ago as there are more people bidding. It now generally works like it was designed to work.
I have already made a Personal Book of Charles Wesley's Journal. However, I have bid $40, and will buy the Logos version. It will no doubt be a better tagged version of the Journal, and has some 20 other works.
