I understand why someone would put notes on a book or bible. But does anyone actually put notes on a passage guide and if so what kinds of things would you put in notes there? Where else besides books and bibles do you put them and why?
I had to ask the same question Kevin.
It was suggested that you might want to annotate which commentaries where most useful or something along those lines. Certainly not much of anything passage related.
I actually build a lesson in "notes" as I study the passage and keep records of my observations, its a nice way to keep track in an ongoing study, and its great for sermon prep.
Works for me.
Here is my "For instance" example. This is a note attached to the commentaries section of a passage guide. I can add to the commentaries list by simply pasting a link to other sources that provide commentary on a passage. this lets me build a more complete guide. I find this far more effective then creating a collection search in the guide. You can do the same with the cross-reference section. Add your own cross references to the guide. If the guide is used for sermons you can put the songs that you sung for the message into the music section.
Thanks. I don't think I will use it, but I was just wondering how someone would.
Again, thanks!
I've actually learned to like this feature. When I'm studying through a passage, I can quickly take notes on positions taken by various commentators, note what was important, etc. This way when I open the next day I'm not trying to remember who said what. I suppose in the future, when I come back around to that passage I'll be able to see some of those notes which may be helpful.
But those notes will be assigned to the Passage Guide and not the passage won't they. Wouldn't you have to go back to that Passage Guide?
I do this, but in another program attaching the notes to the verse.
Kevin
Some have used the notes to mark passage all along even in v3, I used v3 notes to do the same thing as v4. I also labeled all my sermons and lessons by their Scripture reference and title- easier to locate by searching.
Thats why I was concerned about how long a PG layout could be saved - indefinately is the answer there I believe. So the notes tab I save to it will always be with that study.
I like to return to them occasionally and review them or modify for SS lessons in a different format.
I use a 1 t-byte external drive so storage is not an issue.
Yes. But I'm hoping for something like this in the future, which would essentially attach the note, and whole passage guide to the passage....
Gotta spare? :-)
But those notes will be assigned to the Passage Guide and not the passage won't they. Wouldn't you have to go back to that Passage Guide? I do this, but in another program attaching the notes to the verse.
Yes you would. The passage guide will show up in future reports under "My Content" so it's easy to stumble back upon a passage guide you've already worked through.
My custom passage guide has a section that reports back not only commentaries but a bunch of Journal Articles as well. It can take a long time to mine those lists for treasures. So my notes are a valuable annotation of which articles I find helpful and which I don't (and potential quick summaries of their content). This saves a lot of time and helps keep my exploration of the passage guide somewhat systematic.
You are right though, those notes are tied to the passage guide, so only make notes there about the results of the passage guide. I simultaneously have notes that I'm working which are tied to the passage.
So does every passage guide I run get saved for future reference or just those that I give a title to?
I would personally hate it if all of them did.
UPDATE:
OK answering my own questions. Ran a passage guide on Luke 23:32 and then closed it. Ran another one on a larger passage and there was nothing under My Content.
But does anyone actually put notes on a passage guide and if so what kinds of things would you put in notes there?
I use them primarily as a to-do list - it was an almost automatic response so I nearly forgot it was new.
Actually the more I think about it the more I wonder if we are not letting our 3.0 thinking hinder us from seeing a better way. Notes in the guides might be the better way to go. If I run an exegetical guide, I can add notes to each individual word. This would get very cluttered in a note file, but the guide organizes them all and gives 1 click access to them. Simply create a guide called "Word Study notes" with only the word for word in it and have it automatically lookup up nothing. Click on the word you want to add a note too. No needing to link to resources, they are all right there. Word study is linked as well. Just add your note to the word.
I agree with you up to a point - I think you are headed in the right direction but I've not yet been able to get the "perfect" workspace. I do agree that habits from L3 (and other products) hinder us from seeing the best way to use L4.
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Jacob,
If I no longer need a passage guide that's listed under My Content, how can I remove it or permantly delete it?
Michael
[quote] Yes you would. The passage guide will show up in future reports under "My Content" so it's easy to stumble back upon a passage guide you've already worked through.
As far as I know there is no way to delete it. But the good thing is that it doesn't clutter up any menus (it's not accessible on the File menu); you'll only see it when you run a guide covering a similar verse range.
There may very well be a way to delete it, but I don't know about it, and for me, there is no point to deleting it.
Philip,
This sounds useful, but you lose me on the "Click on the word you want to add a note too [sic ]" Where is this word since the guide is looking up nothing?
Can you show or make up a screenshot?
Chris
Further reflection. Are you able to add a note to a word in an exegetical or custom guide and have the note show everytime you run a guide with a word by word section that includes that word? Or if you run a guide with a word by word section in a guide on an overlapping passage, does it show the note?
I tried it and it doesn't for me. So, unless I run the very same guide, which appears in My Content in a guide on an overlapping section, I can't find the note. If I can't remember where it was that I put a certain note, it's basically lost and useless, isn't it?
So, I don't know how your idea works -- but that is probably very evident by this post.
I tried that this morning. It was great to jot down my thoughts right there – it was not great to have them disappear before I could do anything with them! Are they to be found somewhere else?
Maybe I'll find my answer if I keep reading...
Your notes disappeared from your passage guide? Or your passage guide disappeared?
By the way, notes in a passage guide is probably not the best solution for long-term storage...notes would be this. But the passage guide note taking area is best for comments which resources are good for what...Notes on the research process, not the research itself.
IF you lost the passage guide notes by closing the passage guide, run the passage guide again and the old one will appear under "My Content"
Philip or Jacob or anyone else, I'm exploring your ideas of using the notes section in the ExG. But I'm having a problem. I run an ExG on a verse X, make notes on a word Y, close the guide. Later I go back to the ExG on verse X and the notes are there. I then add more notes to word Y, close the guide. Later open the guide and the updating I did isn't there. Can you help me?
I then add more notes to word Y, close the guide. Later open the guide and the updating I did isn't there. Can you help me?
I've never had this problem, but I haven't looked for it either. I'll keep a watch out for it.
But those notes will be assigned to the Passage Guide and not the passage won't they. Wouldn't you have to go back to that Passage Guide? Yes. But I'm hoping for something like this in the future, which would essentially attach the note, and whole passage guide to the passage....
Brilliant, Philip! I really like that design. I might have said it before, but I wish you were working for Logos in user interface design.[:)]
But those notes will be assigned to the Passage Guide and not the passage won't they. Wouldn't you have to go back to that Passage Guide? I do this, but in another program attaching the notes to the verse. Yes you would. The passage guide will show up in future reports under "My Content" so it's easy to stumble back upon a passage guide you've already worked through.
Yes, but I want to do more than "stumble upon" any passage guides I've saved. Currently that's the only way you can ever find them again. I might remember something vaguely about some notes I'd taken in a PG but not remember where in Scripture they are. The only way to find all my passage guides is to create a PG for the entire Bible! and look in My Content. Last time I tried that, Logos couldn't handle it and crashed. They should provide a list of saved passage guide reports somewhere, so you can go through them and cull the ones you don't need anymore quite easily, or be reminded again something you were studying before.
