Will the new iPad impact performance of Logos app?

Mike Childs
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edited November 21 in English Forum

With the expected upgrade in processor and resolution, will performance of Logos app be helped significantly by new iPad release, assuming there is to be such a release announced tomorrow.

Will the resolution upgrage make reading on the iPad a better experience?  Will speed be improved?  Will the new iPad handle pdf files better?


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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    Michael - With so much unknown about tomorrows announcement, it is hard to say anything with certainty… but I will take a stab. [:)]

    Will the resolution upgrage make reading on the iPad a better experience?

    Not unless/untill Logos releases a high res version of the app. 

    Will speed be improved?

    For some things. It should be noted that the mobile app does quite a few things "in the cloud." I don't know how much faster this will become.

    Will the new iPad handle pdf files better?

    Do you mean speed in viewing / changing pages?

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  • Mitchell
    Mitchell Member Posts: 454

     

    Will the resolution upgrage make reading on the iPad a better experience?

    Not unless/untill Logos releases a high res version of the app. 

    I'm in agreement with you except on this point - if the iPad 3 follows the pattern of the iPhone 4, apps not yet optimized for retina displays will still have high resolution text, just not graphics. Since Logos is mostly text, I would expect a retina display to make the experience better right out of the box.

    This is pure speculation but I wonder if Logos has been holding off on the next Logos for iOS update until the iPad 3 announcement so they can have double-resolution graphics on the day of release.

  • Pastor James
    Pastor James Member Posts: 273

    And of course the whole LOGOS / SIRI thing could be real interesting [;)]

  • Kenneth Neighoff
    Kenneth Neighoff Member Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭

     

    This is pure speculation but I wonder if Logos has been holding off on the next Logos for iOS update until the iPad 3 announcement so they can have double-resolution graphics on the day of release.

     

    I would hope that IF this is what they are doing they would say something, because the more communication that comes to the way of the user of the app the less frustration there would be. The term "very soon" was used with notes and highlighting and about six months later it appeared.  Now we have seen a notice that says a "few days". In my way of thinking a few days is two or three maybe four at the max, now it has been over a week since reading plans were taken off the app and no word of progress has been said. Alabama has done some of this, letting us know at what stage the app is at. I believe the last he said was RC3.

    I guess my question would be, how much effort does it take to post a brief progress report to keep people updated. All I know is this, the more communication the better.

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    I wonder if Logos has been holding off on the next Logos for iOS update until the iPad 3 announcement so they can have double-resolution graphics on the day of release.

    I would hope that IF this is what they are doing they would say something

    I don't think there is any truth in the speculation. [:)] Logos would not delay this update for the new hardware. By the way, this morning, the beta went to RC4. I have no inside info on release info, but my guess is that reading plans will go back online upon the release of 2.1. 

     

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  • Kenneth Neighoff
    Kenneth Neighoff Member Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭

    Thanks Alabama for this update, at least we know where it stands right now. I am glad they are still working out the days.

     

    Keep up the good work. It is appreciated.

  • Kevin A. Purcell
    Kevin A. Purcell Member Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭

    And of course the whole LOGOS / SIRI thing could be real interesting Wink

    Only if Apple lets the third party apps in with an API related to Siri. If they don't the only thing we will get is dictation through the keyboard, which we already have.

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  • Mitchell
    Mitchell Member Posts: 454

    And of course the whole LOGOS / SIRI thing could be real interesting Wink

    Only if Apple lets the third party apps in with an API related to Siri.

    Yep. And as cool as it would be, I'm not holding my breath.

  • Paul-C
    Paul-C Member Posts: 1,896

    During the iPad 3 presentation, Apple claimed that iPad 3 will upscale text without any necessity on the part of app developers to update their apps.  However, they did say that if the developers take the time to update their apps, the results will be all the better.  Seems like the Logos iOS app will benefit from iPad 3 straight out of the box!

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    Seems like the Logos iOS app will benefit from iPad 3 straight out of the box!

    Sounds like that to me too! [Y]

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  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭

    sounds interesting, have to say am tempted, just as well I have no money to be silly with [:P]

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    Logos would not delay this update for the new hardware.

    Let me modify my statement… I don't think Logos would delay the mobile release because of the updated hardware… An update to the OS is another story. I have no idea if the devs had access to iOS 5.1 (which was released today) or not. By the way, I am downloading the update to my iPhone & iPad as I write. Hopefully nothing in the new version of iOS breaks the app! [A]

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  • Kenneth Neighoff
    Kenneth Neighoff Member Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭

    Logos would not delay this update for the new hardware.

    Let me modify my statement… I don't think Logos would delay the mobile release because of the updated hardware… An update to the OS is another story. I have no idea if the devs had access to iOS 5.1 (which was released today) or not. By the way, I am downloading the update to my iPhone & iPad as I write. Hopefully nothing in the new version of iOS breaks the app! Angel

     

    Alabama,

     

    Post your experience with the update and the Logos app.  I plan on doing the update after Bible Study tonight.

     

     

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    Post your experience with the update and the Logos app.

    The update is finished and I quickly used the app without incident. I will have to give it a more rigorous run later. I have to get the kids to church now. [:)]

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  • Kenneth Neighoff
    Kenneth Neighoff Member Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭

     

    I have to get the kids to church now. Smile

     

     

    Thanks for the update.

     

    Just the kids. [:O]

  • With Apple adding siri voice dictation to iOS 5.1, wonder about dictating notes in Logos ?

    By the way, Apple has reduced refurbished iPad 2 prices => http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad plus can pre-order the new iPad.

    Keep Smiling [:)]

  • Mike Childs
    Mike Childs Member Posts: 3,117 ✭✭✭

    Will the new iPad handle pdf files better?

    Do you mean speed in viewing / changing pages?

    Yes, for a large pdf, the iPad 1, which I have, is just not very good.  Frustrating to try to read is the way I would describe it.  If you have to wait 10 to 15 seconds almost everytime you turn a page, it is annoying and useless.  A relatively small pdf file is okay, but a large one - no way.

    I suspect it is just a horsepower problem.  In fact, it may be much better on iPad 2.  I chose to skip that upgrade for several reasons. (Mostly, my finances.)  I believe iPad 3 may solve my problem.

    I also think it is very likely that Logos will quickly come out with a high res version.  To do otherwise is to become obsolete before long, and Logos is too smart for that.  With twice the pixels on the screen, the text should look pretty good.

    With more processing power to work with, it may be possible for more features to be done on the iPad, rather than in the cloud.  That would be helpful.

     


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  • Mitchell
    Mitchell Member Posts: 454

    With Apple adding siri voice dictation to iOS 5.1, wonder about dictating notes in Logos ?

    It looks like voice dictation is built into the system keyboard, so I bet Logos won't even need to update their app to work with it! 

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    It looks like voice dictation is built into the system keyboard, so I bet Logos won't even need to update their app to work with it! 

    Indeed. I don't know how useful this will be in the near future. For what its worth… If you have an iPhone 4s, you can do this now (I just tried). To enter John 3:16 you need to say "JOHN THREE COLON SIXTEEN"

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  • Jonathan Pitts
    Jonathan Pitts Member Posts: 670 ✭✭

    With Apple adding siri voice dictation to iOS 5.1, wonder about dictating notes in Logos ?

    It looks like voice dictation is built into the system keyboard, so I bet Logos won't even need to update their app to work with it! 

    Dictation was available on iPhone 4S already but doesn't seem to be available on iPad 2 after the upgrade.

  • Jerry M
    Jerry M Member Posts: 1,680

    Dictation was available on iPhone 4S already but doesn't seem to be available on iPad 2 after the upgrade.

    Evidently voice dictation is only available on the iPad 3.  I was disappointed about this also after I upgraded.

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,489

    Dictation was available on iPhone 4S already but doesn't seem to be available on iPad 2 after the upgrade.

    There may be a hardware reason for this. I think that the iPad 2 is similar to the iPhone 4. Does the iPhone 4 have dictation?

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  • Jerry M
    Jerry M Member Posts: 1,680

    Dictation was available on iPhone 4S already but doesn't seem to be available on iPad 2 after the upgrade.

    You can download the Dragon Dictation app for free, but it only works with wifi/3g.  It also will not work within the Logos app, but you can do a horizontal 4 finger swipe back and forth between them.  Then email the note to yourself.  Since it is free you can always delete the app if you don't like it.

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