ISBE 1915 edition

I just noticed the ISBE 1915 edition edited by James Orr has just gone on community pricing. I already have this in my library from Ages Software. Will this one be any different from the one by Ages?

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Randy Lane

I just noticed the ISBE 1915 edition edited by James Orr has just gone on community pricing. I already have this in my library from Ages Software. Will this one be any different from the one by Ages?

The content should be the same. And is preferred over the revision of a few decades ago.

I'm in, but at $25, not the initial recommended $55

Todd Phillips

There's a note on the product page:

[quote]

Do you already own the Ages edition of The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, 1915 Edition
that was built for Libronix? The previous edition was created many
years ago, using the best digital files available at the time. We’re
rebuilding the 1915 ISBE from the ground up—this collection contains
new, updated files. Enhance your library with one of the most useful and
trusted reference collections by placing your bid today!

So it's probably the same, but retyped for better accuracy. I'm in for $15. This should really be a part of the base packages.

Michael Hatcher

Sorry I missed that---should have looked at it better. Thanks for including the quote.

Jerry M

Here is the link. Edit: Oops I missed your link Todd.

The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, 1915 Edition - Logos Bible Software

Rosie Perera

There's a note on the product page:

[quote]

Do you already own the Ages edition of The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, 1915 Edition
that was built for Libronix? The previous edition was created many
years ago, using the best digital files available at the time. We’re
rebuilding the 1915 ISBE from the ground up—this collection contains
new, updated files. Enhance your library with one of the most useful and
trusted reference collections by placing your bid today!

So it's probably the same, but retyped for better accuracy. I'm in for $15. This should really be a part of the base packages.

If someone already owns this resource and Logos is fixing typos in it (euphemistically put as "rebuilding it...from...updated files"), this should really be a free upgrade. Seems uncharacteristic of them to charge again for it. I could see someone who already owns the 1995 edition but not the 1915 edition (which was quite different) wanting to buy this now just for historic reference. But I already own the 1915 edition and rarely if ever refer to it anyway. I have reported two typos in it (Corintians instead of Corinthians and an4t instead of and) but have never done a systematic search for typos. I'm sure there are tons if it had an4t (an obvious OCR error). Still not worth it to me to pay again for this resource. I think the cost of future typo fixes should be included in the original price. I bought it back in 2007 as part of a Calvin, Spurgeon and ISBE bundle (Ages) for $194.96.

Dave Moser

The content should be the same. And is preferred over the revision of a few decades ago.

Could you elaborate why you believe the content of the 1915 edition is superior to the update?

Thanks!

Rosie Perera

The content should be the same. And is preferred over the revision of a few decades ago.

Could you elaborate why you believe the content of the 1915 edition is superior to the update?

If he's talking about the "revision of a few decades ago" it's certainly not the 1995 update, as that was only 17 years ago. Perhaps there was another poorer quality attempt to revise this content in the intervening years that Randal is referring to? I see on worldcat.org that there's a 1939 (©1929) edition which very few libraries still have a copy of. It was probably lame.

There are some books in history that have a classic year people continue to go back to as the best edition, even when later updates have come out. This was the case with the 11th edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (1910-1911). People are still collecting it!

Phil Gons (Logos)

If someone already owns this resource and Logos is fixing typos in it (euphemistically put as "rebuilding it...from...updated files"), this should really be a free upgrade. Seems uncharacteristic of them to charge again for it.

We are completely scrapping the original Ages files and starting from scratch—re-keying the every character from the print at our high standards. It sounds expensive, but it's actually cheaper than fixing the numerous problems with the digital files we licensed from Ages.
If you own the Ages/Logos edition, you will get these new files for free. They will replace your current files automatically, because they will have the same commerce and resource IDs. The note was inadvertently left off the product page and will be added first thing tomorrow. We don't charge you for a new cleaned-up edition of content you already own. It is equivalent to fixing typos.

Genghis

Please bear with me but why buy ISBE 1915, when it won't have the benefit of the last 90-something years of theological development?

Mike Pettit

Please bear with me but why buy ISBE 1915, when it won't have the benefit of the last 90-something years of theological development?

The development of theology over the past 90 years is seen by many as little short of apostacy

Genghis

But surely

technological benefits such as the internet, the pc which have led to useful tools such as Logos, and made so many writers and thinkers much more accessible to a wider audience; and
archaeological discoveries such as the DSS and the insights that have arisen from an examination of such findings
The continuing but gradual reapprochment between Jews and Christians

must have led to some progress?

mab

Please bear with me but why buy ISBE 1915, when it won't have the benefit of the last 90-something years of theological development?

It's more for the conservative stance of the authors. There are other, better works, for newer findings.

FWIW, I bid on this one because I've found it more helpful at times.

tom

Please bear with me but why buy ISBE 1915, when it won't have the benefit of the last 90-something years of theological development?

I was thinking the same thing, and when I read Phil's statement:

He's referring to the revised edition (1979–1995). Some don't like it as well because it's not as theologically conservative as the original.

I almost spilled my drink because I am thinking that the 1995 version of ISBE is very very very conservative.

Matthew C Jones

I almost spilled my drink because I am thinking that the 1995 version of ISBE is very very very conservative.

[C] But Tom, the 1915 edition of the ISBE is very, very, very, very conservative. [;)]

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That makes the 1995 edition one "very" closer to the liberal column. [6] I find both editions worthy reference titles. They are both more conservative than the Anchor Yale Bible Dictionary.