Great tips for Logos 4

I'm hoping that this can be a post where truly great tips are offered concerning Logos 4. Please only offer tips that you have found truly helpful.

The best tips I found are consolidated on the wiki - have a read and let me know what you think.

Best tip: watch the videos.  Seriously.  All of them.  

     http://www.logos.com/videos

The videos are too basic and incomplete. I hope Logos posts more in-depth "hoe to" videos in the near future. The one's they have just don't cut it. But I thank you for your suggestion.

Wiki just doesn't ring my bell. I am hoping that there are some beta-users who can really provide some solid "how-to" tips for Logos 4. But I thank you for your reply.

Wiki just doesn't ring my bell

Could you give an example of something that would ring your bell?

I'm hoping that this can be a post where truly great tips are offered concerning Logos 4. Please only offer tips that you have found truly helpful.

"Turn off the Use Internet option if you are having performance problems."

That's my tip.  But truly the wiki is the place to put these things, and there are a bunch there. It's a good list, go read it.  No bells needed.

 

The videos are too basic and incomplete. I hope Logos posts more in-depth "hoe to" videos in the near future. The one's they have just don't cut it. But I thank you for your suggestion.

Steven,

what SPECIFICALLY would you like to see as a topic in a video...?

I'm more than willing to tackle what I can and make one.

In the mean time...here are some vids.

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=166041711847&comments=#/group.php?v=app_2392950137&ref=mf&gid=193808921078

 

Is there a way to pull up Logos new map set without doing a seach or use the passage guide?

Steve,

i believe you can just type

title:logos map

in your library and then just open it

Robert,

Your suggestion opens only the old Logos map sets. L4 comes with 60 new high resolution maps. These show up after doing a Passage guide operation in the Bible Places (if the passage has a location). Once open it shows a lot of map icons at the bottom and you can view any of them.

My problem is that sometime i just want to view one of these maps and cannot find a way to open them without looking up a verse with a location that might pull them up in the passage guide.

I agree with this completely!!! BIG help!

My problem is that sometime i just want to view one of these maps and cannot find a way to open them without looking up a verse with a location that might pull them up in the passage guide.

Are you looking for Tools>Biblical places? Or you can type "Show Biblical Places" in the command box. Or if you are in a Bible and want to look up a place right click on the place, and the following options appears.

Steve,

Whoops....then I'd also like to know how to pull this up! [:D]

In the mean time...here are some vids.

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=166041711847&comments=#/group.php?v=app_2392950137&ref=mf&gid=193808921078

Thanks for the videos Robert - keep them coming when you can. I was going to start doing a few myself.

Robert,

Your suggestion opens only the old Logos map sets. L4 comes with 60 new high resolution maps. These show up after doing a Passage guide operation in the Bible Places (if the passage has a location). Once open it shows a lot of map icons at the bottom and you can view any of them.

My problem is that sometime i just want to view one of these maps and cannot find a way to open them without looking up a verse with a location that might pull them up in the passage guide.

I like to look into the maps also. I see Biblical Places as a great improvement against the old way of v3. What better can you get than that?

Are you looking for Tools>Biblical places? Or you can type "Show Biblical Places" in the command box. Or if you are in a Bible and want to look up a place right click on the place, and the following options appears.

This helps some. But for instance i am in Ezekiel and reading in chapter 39, i wanted to view Israel & Babylon. i clicked on Israel in Ezekiel and nothing appeared in the popup menu for biblical places. If i open Biblical Places it shows a single image of a picture with no maps. So in the textbox in Biblical places i typed exile, again no maps. Then typed Babylon, now maps appeared. And after viewing map icons i find one of Babylon during the Exile.

I also found one of Logos's maps 'Deportation of Israelites and Return'. It would be nice to see a list of these 60 maps and let me view it. Like be able to open their new maps and view the table of contents. Thus letting me see what they have and i select what i am looking for.

 

Bohuslav,

Thanks. I like the improvement too. But it would also be nice to see a list of all their new maps. It seems that when i type a location, it only shows what Logos deems relevant. Thus i have to do trial and error to try and find these 60 maps that they advertise.

 

I am awaiting membership confirmation and looking forward to it. One thing I'd really like to know:

On Logos 3 I had numerous collections that were always present and loaded any time I went to a difference verse. With Logos 4 I have to constantly select and re-open my collections. I don't like that because it takes time and is just a hassle.  Any suggestions on how I can keep my collections loaded even when I move to a different passage of Scripture?

i clicked on Israel in Ezekiel and nothing appeared in the popup menu for biblical places.

That's odd. I get the following for Israel Biblical places.There are 4 new maps from Logos that come up.

Bohuslav,

Thanks. I like the improvement too. But it would also be nice to see a list of all their new maps. It seems that when i type a location, it only shows what Logos deems relevant. Thus i have to do trial and error to try and find these 60 maps that they advertise.

 

Yes, I agree with you that some kind of list would be nice, however, since Biblical Places gather your maps from various resources (like Tyndale Bible Dictionary) and more are supposed to come, it might be difficult to create such list.

Try write very basic letter to the search box in the Biblical Places (like "a") and you will get about 2 pages of maps offered in the drop-down menu.

On Logos 3 I had numerous collections that were always present and loaded any time I went to a difference verse. With Logos 4 I have to constantly select and re-open my collections. I don't like that because it takes time and is just a hassle.  Any suggestions on how I can keep my collections loaded even when I move to a different passage of Scripture?

You need to set up a custom Passage guide and set it to be used instead of Logos' default. Instructions are below.

Guess that i am a little slow today. This is what my screen shows when i click on Israel in Ezekiel 39

i clicked on Israel in Ezekiel and nothing appeared in the popup menu for biblical places.

That's odd. I get the following for Israel Biblical places.There are 4 new maps from Logos that come up.

Philip - I get the same results you do for Israel

Guess that i am a little slow today. This is what my screen shows when i click on Israel in Ezekiel 39

I don't get a hit from "Israel" in 39:25 for Biblical Places either. If you open Biblical Places and type Israel I get the same results that Philip got. Is it smart enough to know that "house of Israel" is not a physical location and so doesn't hit Biblical Places?

Guess that i am a little slow today. This is what my screen shows when i click on Israel in Ezekiel 39

Steve - I think the NIV may not be completely tagged with Biblical People, Places, and Things information.  Try KJV or ESV or NASB95.  I belive Logos is working on an updated version of the NIV and NLT to add the reverse interlinear information, so I'm hoping the Biblical Places will be tagged as well when that's done.

Peter

Thanks Phillip, Bohuslav, & Michael

Guess i will have to temper my curiosity with patience.

I really like the scalable maps!!

When trying to copy a zoomed in map it captures the original maps size which doesn't zoom in well in a graphics program. But i can probably do a screen capture when zoomed in then crop and paste.

Hi Philip, I DID find a few usable tips from Wiki. I spoke too soon. I repent in dust and ashes.I am very thankful to you (and others) who are much better versed in Logos 4. You guys are a great help!

 

Guess that i am a little slow today. This is what my screen shows when i click on Israel in Ezekiel 39

 

Notice also that you've highlighted "Israel" as in AKA "Jacob"

Logos is doing the right thing....giving you an option for "Biblical People" NOT Biblical Places....

Find another Israel and check there....

Guess that i am a little slow today. This is what my screen shows when i click on Israel in Ezekiel 39

 

Notice also that you've highlighted "Israel" as in AKA "Jacob"

Logos is doing the right thing....giving you an option for "Biblical People" NOT Biblical Places....

Find another Israel and check there....

Yes, when you try Moab, it gives you place and offers Biblical Places.

By the way, guys, have you tried Bible Explorer? It is slow, but finds quite interesting things in the MEDIA section.

 

Hi Philip, I DID find a few usable tips from Wiki. I spoke too soon. I repent in dust and ashes.I am very thankful to you (and others) who are much better versed in Logos 4. You guys are a great help!

Since the Wiki just started yesterday in a serious way its perfectly understandable. It will be worth our while to check it often and make contributions.

Mark, I followed your instructions. But when I navigate to a new passage, my collections are listed with that title "collection" and not say "Bible Dictionaries", "Theology" etc. Either I'm still doing something wrong, or there's some kind of glitch in my software.

Either I'm still doing something wrong, or there's some kind of glitch in my software.

That one's a bug, and it's been reported.

Have any idea  how long it takes the techs at Logos to repair a bug?  This one is a pretty big one. Thanks for all your help.

Have any idea  how long it takes the techs at Logos to repair a bug?  This one is a pretty big one. Thanks for all your help.

This bug is fixed, and will be in the upcoming 4.0a release.

I hope Logos posts more in-depth "hoe to" videos in the near future.

Steven,

what SPECIFICALLY would you like to see as a topic in a video...?

It was clear to me. He wants  videos on how to plant the seed of the gospel with logos

Bob, your company is fantastic! I have used Logos from the early days. It's been great to see just how prominent Logos has become. Do you have any idea how long it will be until the update is ready? This must be a very stressful time for all of you at Logos. Hang in there, buddy!

 

It should read "how-to" videos. I just want access to more tutorial videos. I wish they would make videos longer than a minute or two--videos that truly give guidance to those of us who have made significant financial investments into Logos 4. Blessings, my friend.

This isn't exactly a tip that reveals any fantastic L4 secrets, but I love using Power Lookup with a cross-reference resource. What a great way to benefit from the hard work that goes into something like New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge. I included a screen shot below that shows a basic setup that I use: my custom guide (well illustrated earlier in this thread), my Bible, and NTSK, with Power Lookup on the right. Simply highlight the exact section of NTSK I want, and I can browse lots of relevant material. Note the "copy" button at the top of the Power Lookup frame.

FYI, NTSK costs $39.99 on its own, but a Logos salesperson found that it was part of "Nelson's Ultimate Bible Reference Library," which includes several other resources with NTSK, and I think cost less than the resource itself. You might ask about that.

Timothy,

Good tip! thanks!

Good tip, Timothy. Thanks.

Making "Close all" a short cut.

This (I think) is a tip from Philip Spitzer...

You already know that you can type close all to close any open resources all at once...but did you know that you can make that command a short cut; it's MUCH faster than typing...watch how fast it is after the click....

[View:http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1233173679950&oid=193808921078:550:0]

I use other Bible study applications in which I can click on a verse and force it to be the current verse.  I find that to be handy and intuitive.

I just realized that in Logos 4 I can

• right-click a verse
• in the right-click menu, choose 'Reference Matthew 6:10' (or whatever the verse is I click on)
• click the first option on the left -- 'Open'. 

That makes the clicked-on verse the current verse.  And other resources in the link set follow along.

That's at least one more click than what I want (and sometimes more, if the right-click menu is not on 'Reference x:xx' to begin with).

Once the right-click menu displays, menu options can be accessed with keyboard -- that's handy.  up/down arrows go through the options on the right, and 'tab' takes you to the options on the left, where up/down similarly navigate through the options.

<originally posted as a response in suggestions>

 

I would love to hear any tips people might have for working with the cool handouts feature.  Is there an easier way to add information to the handouts pages?  For instance, if I am teaching through 1 John and want to add some information about the Gnostics in my handout, what is the easiest way to go about it?  If I select the "add item" option and type they keyword "gnostics" in, I only get one article which is not really what I am looking for.  How can I search through more of my library to import information into these handouts without copying and pasting information as a "blank item" (which does not seem to cite the source).  One more thing....is there a way to limit the pages of the handouts without having to individually delete every item in the search you do not want to incorporate?

Thanks!

Chad

Sadly the handout feature is very limited and has been roundly criticized in previous posts.  For all practical purposes, until Logos updates it, it serves no functional purpose.

Sadly the handout feature is very limited and has been roundly criticized in previous posts.  For all practical purposes, until Logos updates it, it serves no functional purpose.

I agree Randy....

I started this thread, and am hoping we can get back on track on sharing "Great tips for Logos 4."  Can we get back on focus? I think this thread could really help a lot of people. Blessings to all, Steve Spencer

Making "Close all" a short cut.

This (I think) is a tip from Philip Spitzer...

You already know that you can type close all to close any open resources all at once...but did you know that you can make that command a short cut; it's MUCH faster than typing...watch how fast it is after the click....

[View:http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1233173679950&oid=193808921078:550:0]

Robert,

Any chance you could put your videos up on a more public access point such as YouTube or Vimeo, or change your privacy settings in Facebook? As it is now, I believe only people who are Facebook friends of yours can see that video. Facebook said it has either been removed or is not visible due to privacy settings. I'm maintaining a collection of all user-created video tutorials on the wiki, and would love to add links to yours, but I can't the way things stand now.

Rosie,

Yes...I can.

The Facebook is for all Logos users but it is by invitation only; you just have to ask the owner.

I'll see what I can do about putting up these vids on youtube.

Rosie,

I can't do anything about the Facebook vids.....I don't have a copy...talk to Jeremiah Morris about getting facebook access...

Rosie,

I can't do anything about the Facebook vids.....I don't have a copy...talk to Jeremiah Morris about getting facebook access...

Thanks for trying. I've left him a note on the thread where he announced the availability of the Facebook user's group. That's the only way I know to contact him, as this forum software doesn't allow private messaging to users.