Women's Bible Study Collection (12 vols.) - Demeaning?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/353124#Comment_353124

Well, she references Philippians, in which case she's basically discussing the responsibility of all believers, with her book directed to a specific group of interest.

I agree with your general drift, however. Creating groups quickly introduces human pecking orders which people seem to enjoy (both genders).

Michael G. Halpern

I've been sharing this sentiment for years in the church. We have Men's Bible Studies and Women's Bible Studies (among various others); the church often does quite a job of separating us more than uniting us. Other than the occasional discussion of gender specific roles, why do we find it necessary to make such distinctions between male/female. I have found mixed groups much more enlightening most of the time, as discussion takes both genders into consideration. I know many a man who could learn greatly from Beth Moore.

Eric Weiss

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/353127#Comment_353127

I've been sharing this sentiment for years in the church. We have Men's Bible Studies and Women's Bible Studies (among various others); the church often does quite a job of separating us more than uniting us. Other than the occasional discussion of gender specific roles, why do we find it necessary to make such distinctions between male/female. I have found mixed groups much more enlightening most of the time, as discussion takes both genders into consideration. I know many a man who could learn greatly from Beth Moore.

ISTM that if separate(d) Bible studies were replaced with ones in which both men and women attended and fully participated at all levels, as both attendees and teachers of the classes, seeing that all the members of the Body of Christ have the same goal - i.e., to grow in Christlikeness and the knowledge of Him, and not into male-Christlikeness versus female Christlikeness, or "male" knowledge of Christ versus "female" knowledge of Christ (after all, Jesus took on human nature, not "male human nature," and died for humans' sins, not the "male sin nature"), and to help each other do so - I suspect that some of these ideas that certain "roles" in the Body of Christ are for males only would begin to disappear as people would begin to see that women can teach and lead and be led and empowered by the Spirit just as well as, and in the same ways as, men. There is only One Body, and as I read Paul, the different functions by the Spirit of the different members in the Body are not gender-restricted or gender-defined or gender-determined.

Paul Golder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/353135#Comment_353135

I wonder what Paul was thinking when he wrote: "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety."?

Graham Criddle

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/353145#Comment_353145

Concerned that this could easily become a theological debate with the potential to hurt people.

Please respect the guidelines for these forums which ask us to not do this.

Graham

Paul Golder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/353149#Comment_353149

Concerned that this could easily become a theological debate with the potential to hurt people.

Please respect the guidelines for these forums which ask us to not do this.

Graham

Excellent point Graham, my apologies, temptation got the best of me.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/353151#Comment_353151

to Paul Gouder,

regarding your question, there are some good respectful discussions on this topic at equalitycentral.com/forum.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/353187#Comment_353187

Why should there be "women's bible study collections"? Aren't all Christians, male and female, to hold fast to and grow up into the same Person, Jesus Christ?

In a way, I agree with you. Then again, I personally like the distinctions because men and women are not the same. We need to acknowledge the difference.

This being said, I was real excited when I saw the title of this prepub because I have been saying that we need more resources from a female perspective. When I read what is included and the one sided theological bent of this collection, you could say that it got my panties all tied up in knots. I personally believe that we need women to use their "rebellious, complaining, questioning spirits" because it keeps the men in check.

Garrett Ho

I personally believe that we need women to use their "rebellious, complaining, questioning spirits" because it keeps the men in check.

Personally, I don't think we need women OR men with "rebellious, complaining, questioning spirits." Even though I don't intend to buy the resources, I don't have a problem with these books being available on Logos.

To be honest, I think the OP was inflammatory, and I'll leave it at that. "This sounds like those male pastors who label any women who wants to affirm her New Creation dignity as a full-fledged and equal child of God as having a "Jezebel Spirit.""

I'm not sure why people are upset. Is it that you don't like the content of the book? Or, are you upset that Logos is making the book available on their platform? Or, is the issue with the title of the collection?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/353190#Comment_353190

Personally, I don't think we need women OR men with "rebellious, complaining, questioning spirits."

IMHO, if we did not have "rebellious, complaining, questioning spirits," women would still not be able to vote, African Americans would still be slaves, and all the Israelites will still be in Egypt.

To be honest, I think the OP was inflammatory, and I'll leave it at that. "This sounds like those male pastors who label any women who wants to affirm her New Creation dignity as a full-fledged and equal child of God as having a "Jezebel Spirit.""

I think the OP was making a very actuate observation.

I'm not sure why people are upset. Is it that you don't like the content of the book? Or, are you upset that Logos is making the book available on their platform? Or, is the issue with the title of the collection?

I cannot speak for everyone. What makes me upset is that this collection only has one theological position, and (IMHO) {deleted so it does not start a theological debate}

Paul Golder

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/353172#Comment_353172

to Paul Gouder,

regarding your question, there are some good respectful discussions on this topic at equalitycentral.com/forum.

Thanks for the info Teri,[Y] but I was just being an instigator.

It's a bit of a pet topic for me, and I have been debating it in the circles I run with for 30 years, so whenever it comes up I always have to fight the urge to throw in my two cents.[:$]

Michael

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/353326#Comment_353326

I don't have a problem with it. Men and women ARE different, but we all form one body. Are ministries like Proverbs 31 Ministries and Promise Keepers demeaning because thier ministry focus is specifically on women or men? I think not. Each addresses needs for a specific part of the body.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/353336#Comment_353336

Just saw this again. Michael, may I ask from what part of the Body are women from and from what part of the Body are men from or representing.

My understanding of physiology, of which I'm certain that God is aware since He created it that way, is that our DNA of male and female are spread equally throughout the whole body. The only differences physically (other than the skeletal and genitals) are the effects that our hormones have upon the body we walk in. Men carry 60% testosterone and 40% estrogen, while women carry 60% testosterone and 40% estrogen. But the point is that the body is a whole body in which testosterone and estrogen are spread throughout.

So, are you suggesting that the Body of Christ is masculine or feminine primarily? Or what exactly are you saying?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361224#Comment_361224

oops, mistake. meant to write women carry 60% estrogen and 40% testosterone.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361225#Comment_361225

Jesus quoted it Matt 19:5[Gen 2:24], Paul re-iterated it Eph 5:31, yet it is physically impossible.-? So if there is no equality before God, or the Throne, then how can this be?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361228#Comment_361228

I agree with you, Room4more. my quibble is with this statement: "Each addresses needs for a specific part of the body". I don't see men representing a specific part of the Body of Christ and women representing different parts of the Body of Christ. What I see is all the believers representing various parts of the Body of Christ not segregated into pinks and blues.

Giovanni Baggio

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/353151#Comment_353151

Concerned that this could easily become a theological debate with the potential to hurt people.

Please respect the guidelines for these forums which ask us to not do this.

Graham

Excellent point Graham, my apologies, temptation got the best of me.

No need to apologize Paul it's not a theological debate, it's just simple facts. You have a problem with the divine "pecking order" then complain to the Holy Spirit who revealed to Paul that that's the way it should be done.

Women, please understand, is not about macho man or chauvinist mentality is just about roles in worship and how GOD wants things done. You see when it comes to salvation we're all sons of God through faith (Gal. 3:26-27) it doesn't matter your gender or ethnicity or social status (Gal. 3:28), but when it comes to roles we must play (headship, submission, etc.) in the church per God's prescription (1 Timothy 2:8ff), then we must accept what the Word of God says and not question it. That doesn't mean women are worthless and need to shut up, but it means God wants the men to take the lead. I hate to see women fall into the feminist mentality and rebel just because they have been lead to think that submission means slavery when it doesn't. You all are new creatures in Christ just like men are (2 Corinthians 5:17), but that has nothing to do with the role each of us (men and women) must play in the church (per God's divine orders 1 Timothy 3:14-15).

Wow, look at me, I'm starting to learn a few things since I've been devoting my evenings to the study of the Word instead of watching gossip girl...LOL...[;)]

So no apologies needed Paul and Graham (no offense) but no need to make someone feel bad with the old used up card of "this may turn in to a theological debate," cus it isn't it's plain and simple Bible truth. Love you man!

Going through metamorphosis!

Giovanni

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361232#Comment_361232

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Interesting

While we do have to accept the non-rationale that we are different on the outside, the spiritual separation should not be to the point that we ostracize one gender from the other in the application, or self-servitude, to the Word of God and the non-compliance of leading a double-standardized life.

Yet, there are times when we must accept that our level of maturity, differing between milk and meat, can lead us to wanting to be separated, or as some would have it, segregated. But, guided by the example of our Beloved Saviour, Jesus The Son of God, we must/should lay aside that need, and seek to unite as one Body, not physically, but rather appealing to spiritual unity, to wit, many will be one day.

If the material in question can be a motivational addition to what we already have, then there should be an offering of it. Let those who can benefit in teaching the material to others be allowed to do so, if not for personal edification at that.

Yes, at first glance it does seem a bit demeaning, but I do not believe that that is the intention of the writer(s) or the promoter of the writer(s). If we take to our own gander and commit to it a slight of hand demeaning intent, then I would suspect that we are already of a bias attitude and may need to be readjusted…….

Contrary to sterotyped essential orthodoxy, I support women in the church setting. God Included them......

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361259#Comment_361259

Curiosity has the best of me:

How many would state that Mother Teresa was not call’d of God to do what she has done[minister, evangelize, teach]? While I do not fully agree with everything about her, I would NOT say the she was not call’d...

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361253#Comment_361253

Giovanni, you're such a good read on a slow Saturday afternoon. And you did nail it ... a simple reading in the NT of which gender pronouns were used would normally demonstrate where the sin-problem was concentrated and continues to be. A quick visit to one of our many prisons highlights why gender-based writing was absolutely essential. Even the angels to be put in prison had the gender problem according to the good apostle Paul.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361253#Comment_361253

"You all are new creatures in Christ just like men are (2 Corinthians 5:17), but that has nothing to do with the role each of us (men and women) must play in the church (per God's divine orders 1 Timothy 3:14-15)."

Here's where it get's into theological debates and here is where I must bow out. If all believers are to be new creatures in Christ (this was not said only to the men) then there is no need for new or old roles to be played or acted out ones whole "new" life.

I now retire.

fgh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361275#Comment_361275

Denise, you mustn't say things like that when I've just put pineapple in juice in my mouth! I nearly choked! [:O][:D]

R4m, I've seen a video with a woman who literally boasted that it was the prayers of her and her prayer group that caused M Teresa's death (as well as the earth quake in Assisi and a number of other things). Don't think they considered her called... Not a gender issue, though, just an anti-Catholic one. [:(]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361275#Comment_361275

Giovanni, you're such a good read on a slow Saturday afternoon. And you did nail it ... a simple reading in the NT of which gender pronouns were used would normally demonstrate where the sin-problem was concentrated and continues to be. A quick visit to one of our many prisons highlights why gender-based writing was absolutely essential. Even the angels to be put in prison had the gender problem according to the good apostle Paul.

Now that is interesting DMB, So let work that one backwards:

-Since it was eve that made adam fall, Why does God need to punish adam?

-since it was the serpent that made eve sin that caused adam to fall, Why does God need to punish eve?

-since it was the satan that cause the serpent to converse with eve that made eve sin that caused adam to fall, Why does God need to punish the serpent?

-since it was satan that made everything fall, Why does God need to punish the rest of Humanity?

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361285#Comment_361285

R4M take a closer look at the text itself. Note first the communication was between God and Adam; Eve learned about it second-hand. Secondly she was presented with a talking snake, who apparently could walk. I'm sure you have a solid appreciation for God's assurances in Deuteronomy concerning the source of signs (unnatural events) and their purpose.

But the issue really need not be pursued in-depth; the good Apostle Paul spelled it out clearly in 1 Tim 2:15. For a good exercise in the use of your Logos, again track who the recipient of all the NT teaching is (gender). Then remember who inspired the teaching.

Even more amazing (and difficult to imagine) is realizing who 'the Watchers' were in the book of Enoch and why they were called 'the Watchers'. Then think about why a prison would be needed for the angels. I could go on. Most people don't take those gender-pronouns at face value.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361289#Comment_361289

R4M take a closer look at the text itself. Note first the communication was between God and Adam; Eve learned about it second-hand. Secondly she was presented with a talking snake, who apparently could walk. I'm sure you have a solid appreciation for God's assurances in Deuteronomy concerning the source of signs (unnatural events) and their purpose.

But the issue really need not be pursued in-depth; the good Apostle Paul spelled it out clearly in 1 Tim 2:15. For a good exercise in the use of your Logos, again track who the recipient of all the NT teaching is (gender). Then remember who inspired the teaching.

Even more amazing (and difficult to imagine) is realizing who 'the Watchers' were in the book of Enoch and why they were called 'the Watchers'. Then think about why a prison would be needed for the angels. I could go on. Most people don't take those gender-pronouns at face value.

Interesting to say the least, but the question has been avoided. I am quite familiar with the text as with the extras outside of the text, but you did not answer the question, did you?

Should it be that we are the recipients of a celestial beings fall, Why Does God need to punish the rest of Humanity? Surely you can understand that you do not punish the child who got burned by the fire when they got to close.....

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361295#Comment_361295

Well, I agree with your points in the last message. But the answers are well above my pay-grade. I'm just fascinated reading all about it.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361298#Comment_361298

Well, I agree with your points in the last message. But the answers are well above my pay-grade. I'm just fascinated reading all about it.

Well it really isn’t above your “pay-grade”.

The simple answer is: He doesn’t?

But if we are to maintain a gender specific attitude then eve is the only one that will be saved, as you have so graciously pointed out in Paul’s text, but we may have understood the passage incorrectly. Men were neither cursed nor condemn’d by this passage, SO Paul must have meant something else…Paul stated Ro 5:12, that by ‘man’ sin entered the world, a gender specific pronoun, correct? Eve may have been deceived, but Paul affirms that it was man[adam] that the disobedience was manifested. God did not tell eve, as we agree that she was second hand, God told Adam – first hand. Adam KNEW!

Therein lies a big difference if we maintain the ‘role playing” of genders.

God punishes us individually for what we, as individuals, do; not corporately. the serpent has been long gone dead and has become disintegrated vultures dung by now, remember it was a Creation of Gods, not some transfigured, possessed celestial being.......even if by chance it was, it would still be dead, remember GOD curse the serpent, he would not be able to escape God's curse...

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361295#Comment_361295

Should it be that we are the recipients of a celestial beings fall, Why Does God need to punish the rest of Humanity? Surely you can understand that you do not punish the child who got burned by the fire when they got to close.....

Observation: question is appropriate for discussion elsewhere, perhaps => http://www.theologyonline.com/

The primary focus of Logos Bible Software forum discussions is using Logos Bible Software, including how to search for information, including plus what resource(s) would be helpful to include for research and study.

By the way, searching Logos.com for women finds 520 results => http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=women including:

Jewish Women Collection (4 vols.) noted authored by Jewish women about biblical matriarchs.

Godly Women's Collection (14 vols.) noticed authorship by men and women

Women's Bible Study Collection (12 vols.) noticed all written by women and published by BJU Press

Searching Logos.com for men finds 663 results => http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=men

Searching Logos.com for Jesus finds 1,902 results => http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=Jesus

Searching Logos.com for christian finds 4,457 results => http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=christian

Searching Logos.com for theology finds 4,578 results => http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=Theology

Keep Smiling [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361303#Comment_361303

[...]

The primary focus of Logos Bible Software forum discussions is using Logos Bible Software, including how to search for information, including what resource(s) would be helpful to include for research and study.

Keep Smiling

Thanks, I'll keep this in mind the next time(s) you post(s)........[we are all creatures of error].

Keep Smiling Smile

ooohhh, llookkiiee here:

http://community.logos.com/forums/p/48739/361116.aspx#361116

Please point out your instructions and such on, oh what was that, The primary focus of Logos Bible Software forum discussions is using Logos Bible Software, including how to search for information, including what resource(s) would be helpful to include for research and study.

Keep Smiling Smile

Josh

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361270#Comment_361270

Curiosity has the best of me:

How many would state that Mother Teresa was not call’d of God to do what she has done[minister, evangelize, teach]? While I do not fully agree with everything about her, I would NOT say the she was not call’d...

I did a quick Google search [:O] and found something rather interesting.

Tim Challies was recently on the cover of Logos "Bible Study" Magazine. He has an interesting blog. He wrote about Mother Theresa here.

Here was a quote I found interesting:

[Concerning a quote by Mother Theresa]

"With such a statement we can only be left believing that she was more
than a Catholic, but was a Universalist, believing essentially that all
religion leads to the same God. Time and again we see her expounding
such universalist beliefs. In an interview with Christian News a
nun who worked with Mother Teresa was asked the following in regards to
the Hindus they worked with, “These people are waiting to die. What are
you telling them to prepare them for death and eternity?” She replied
candidly, “We tell them to pray to their Bhagwan, to their gods.”"

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361303#Comment_361303

"including what resource(s) would be helpful to include for research and study."

I would suggest some more scholarly works such as books by Kevin Giles, Hamilton & Cunningham, J. Lee Grady, Ben Witherington, Webb, Krizo, Pierce, Groothius. I can suggest some title for women's studies.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361307#Comment_361307

Josh ... for goodness sakes. Now it's my turn having trouble with the pineapple juice.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361308#Comment_361308

Some quick ones....

Why Not Women, Heirs Together, 10 Lies Women Believe (also 10 Lies Men Believe), As Christ Submits to the Church, Let My People Go: a call to end the oppression of women in the church, Women and the Genesis of Christianity, Jesus and the Father, When Dogmas Die, Discovering Biblical Equality....... to start with.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361289#Comment_361289

Most people don't take those gender-pronouns at face value.

You're aware, I'm sure, that the pronouns reflect grammatical gender which is scarcely identical to biological gender.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361310#Comment_361310

I gots’ta admit:

I wonder how many “stars” would be tarnished if someone went through and separated the “helping hand” from all the junk…………I believe many would fall.

thanks for the conversation sorry I did not post what resources i used for my information.

Matlock's on....gotta become a couch potatoe..

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361314#Comment_361314

I wonder how many “stars” would be tarnished

The "stars" have always looked to me like holes in rusted metal.[;)]

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361310#Comment_361310

Some quick ones....

Why Not Women, Heirs Together, 10 Lies Women Believe (also 10 Lies Men Believe), As Christ Submits to the Church, Let My People Go: a call to end the oppression of women in the church, Women and the Genesis of Christianity, Jesus and the Father, When Dogmas Die, Discovering Biblical Equality....... to start with.

Noticed Logos has => Discovering Biblical Equality

Noticed Vyrso has => As Christ Submits to the Church: A Biblical Understanding of Leadership and Mutual Submission and => How Women Help Men Find God

Looking forward to next week when Logos announces more resources available for Vyrso => Vyrso's versatility, extensive features heads above the rest

For Logos suggestions, suggest posting in Suggestions forum or sending email to Logos product suggestions => http://www.logos.com/about/contact that could reference this thread.

Keep Smiling [:)]

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361312#Comment_361312

MJ ... you are of course correct (as always). And I'm sure you were also reading between the lines. I am always most impressed when one does a search of 'men and women' in Acts ... what could the women be literally doing that would merit be shipped under arrest to Jerusalem. Must be 'something'. I think it was revolutionary in those short phrases..

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361303#Comment_361303

Should it be that we are the recipients of a celestial beings fall, Why Does God need to punish the rest of Humanity? Surely you can understand that you do not punish the child who got burned by the fire when they got to close.....

Observation: question is appropriate for discussion elsewhere, perhaps => http://www.theologyonline.com/

The primary focus of Logos Bible Software forum discussions is using Logos Bible Software, including how to search for information, including plus what resource(s) would be helpful to include for research and study.

By the way, searching Logos.com for women finds 520 results => http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=women including:

Jewish Women Collection (4 vols.) noted authored by Jewish women about biblical matriarchs.

Godly Women's Collection (14 vols.) noticed authorship by men and women

Women's Bible Study Collection (12 vols.) noticed all written by women and published by BJU Press

Searching Logos.com for men finds 663 results => http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=men

Searching Logos.com for Jesus finds 1,902 results => http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=Jesus

Searching Logos.com for christian finds 4,457 results => http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=christian

Searching Logos.com for theology finds 4,578 results => http://www.logos.com/products/search?q=Theology

Keep Smiling

Again, it is not about the numbers, it is the material that is provided. Most of the material here that talks about women's issues simply discuess me. As I said in an earlier post

Personally, I don't think we need women OR men with "rebellious, complaining, questioning spirits."
IMHO, if we did not have "rebellious, complaining, questioning spirits," women would still not be able to vote, African Americans would still be slaves, and all the Israelites will still be in Egypt.

PetrosD

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361412#Comment_361412

Oh, dear. Such a lot of heat. Some light. :-)

When I hear someone say that Paul says I do not allow a woman to teach or to usurp the authority of a man, I often wait to see if they are making a point or exploring options.

It's worth noting that "woman" and "man" may be incorrect and that "wife" and "husband" is more likely (more common). If not, then they are at least as valid. So I do not allow a wife to teach or usurp the authority of a husband is quite possible, even likely. That does tend to leave a man unable to enforce his "authority" over women he's not married to. For some men, that's just gotta be hard to take.

Then there is the whole usurping of authority bit. I leave it to better Greek scholars than me, but I know that that phrase is supplied by the translators without much in the Greek to indicate it. The whole phrase translates one word "authenteo", made from auto (self) and hentes (a worker). Literally it means to be a "self worker". It could mean to be self-directed, to work alone, to do your own thing, or something else. So how about I do not allow a wife to teach her husband or to go off and work alone (without his partnership)? I'm not insisting. I'm just saying.

Then there is the whole "authority" issue anyway. Most times when I hear "authority" it's not from a man who has just used his robe to dry the feet he's just washed or sought out the lowest place at the table. Those who are leaders by virtue of being servants first rarely talk about authority because they don't have to.

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361535#Comment_361535

PetrosD, Thanks for the comment. I have noticed lately that there seems to be a bit of books requested that concern women and their particular 'role' within the churches social standing, how it may affect our own cultural setting and understanding of the message that Paul was attempting to relate to his own audience.

Intriguing that most have been by men…………

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361563#Comment_361563

PetrosD, Thanks for the comment. I have noticed lately that there seems to be a bit of books requested that concern women and their particular 'role' within the churches social standing, how it may affect our own cultural setting and understanding of the message that Paul was attempting to relate to his own audience.

Intriguing that most have been by men…………

This is because Logos' customer base is mainly men. I would say that about a year ago (could be more), Logos asked the question, where are the women?

Matthew C Jones

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361569#Comment_361569

Interesting thread. I only want to point out the resource first mentioned in this thread is one of several new collections originating from Bob Jones University Press and as such will contain common perspectives of that university. To demand "equality" of viewpoints within that collection would be similar to demanding Evangelical Fundamentalist views be represented within a collection of the Pontifical Bible Institute.

As for the multiple perspectives; I am thrilled to see Logos addressing them. Although I would probably get more from a "Women's Bible Study" than I would from a sports-themed macho devotional.....

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/361569#Comment_361569

Logos' customer base is manly men

LOL great typo[;)]