Works of Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Matthew C Jones

How about the works of Dietrich Bonhoeffer?

If not everything, can we get The Cost of Discipleship?

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Jack Caviness

How about the works of Dietrich Bonhoeffer?

If not everything, can we get The Cost of Discipleship?

I would buy that!

Jack

Dudley Rose

Fortress publishes a lot of Bonhoeffer and is nearing the completion of the Dietrich Bonhoeffer Works in English. Fortress has indicated that they will produce an electronic version upon completion. Since they have used Logos for other electronically published titles, I sure hope they do for Bonhoeffer. This critical edition set would be a spectacular resource, and of course since it is his complete works, it includes Discipleship, Letters and Parers, Ethics, and Life Together and much more.

Dudley

How about the works of Dietrich Bonhoeffer?

If not everything, can we get The Cost of Discipleship?

J.R. Miller

that sounds promising! thanks for the insight.

Matthew C Jones

Fortress publishes a lot of Bonhoeffer and is nearing the completion of the Dietrich Bonhoeffer Works in English. Fortress has indicated that they will produce an electronic version upon completion. Since they have used Logos for other electronically published titles, I sure hope they do for Bonhoeffer. This critical edition set would be a spectacular resource, and of course since it is his complete works, it includes Discipleship, Letters and Parers, Ethics, and Life Together and much more.

Dudley

Great! I hope it works out that way. I bought several Fortress publications that came with Libronix versions included with the hardcopy book. A great value. Also, it seems they are quick to get to market once they start on something. Hopefully we will see this Fortress/Libronix relationship continue.

Steven Yu

I would like to see the work of Bonhoeffer in Logos too!

Chris Ease

"The Cost of Discpleship" would be a good electronic book. I imagine that book would be along the line of John MacArthur's "The Gospel According to Jesus" and "The Gospel According to the Appostles". I'm assuming Bonhoeffer's position is lordship salvation, based on him being quoted in John MacArthur's books.

tom

"The Cost of Discpleship" would be a good electronic book. I imagine that book would be along the line of John MacArthur's "The Gospel According to Jesus" and "The Gospel According to the Appostles". I'm assuming Bonhoeffer's position is lordship salvation, based on him being quoted in John MacArthur's books.

Chris, I am not sure what you mean by lordship salvation. I can tell you that Dietrich Bonhoeffer was a (very good) Lutheran theologian. Thus, Bonhoeffer's view of salvation was a very Lutheran view of salvation. If you had asked Dietrich when he was saved, he would have replied with something like "around 1900 years ago with the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus.

George Somsel

If you had asked Dietrich when he was saved, he would have replied with something like "around 1900 years ago with the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus.

That would have been a good answer too. Another good question is "What do you consider 'salvation' to mean? Is it just "fire insurance"?

Chris Ease

MacArthur quoted Bonhoeffer in "The Gospel According to the Appostles" under the chapter "Cheap Grace". MacArthur's position is a lordship position which is hard for me to explain. John MacArthur's explains lordship.........

What Is “Lordship Salvation” All About?

The gospel call to faith presupposes that sinners must repent of their sin and yield to Christ’s authority. That, in a sentence, is what “lordship salvation” teaches.

I don’t like the term lordship salvation. I reject the connotation intended by those who coined the phrase. It insinuates that a submissive heart is extraneous or supplementary to saving faith. Although I have reluctantly used the term to describe my views, it is a concession to popular usage. Surrender to Jesus’ lordship is not an addendum to the biblical terms of salvation; the summons to submission is at the heart of the gospel invitation throughout Scripture.

Those who criticize lordship salvation like to level the charge that we teach a system of works-based righteousness. Nothing could be further from the truth. Although I labored to make this as plain as possible in The Gospel According to Jesus, some critics continue to hurl that allegation. Others have imagined that I am advocating a new or modified doctrine of salvation that challenges the Reformers’ teaching or radically redefines faith in Christ. Of course, my purpose is just the opposite.

MacArthur, J. (2000). The gospel according to the Apostles : The role of works in the life of faith. Originally published: Faith works. Dallas : Word Pub., c1993. Nashville, TN: Word Pub.

Here is an excerpt from MacArthur's book quoting and commenting on Bonhoeffer.

Cheap grace means grace sold on the market like cheapjacks’ wares.…

Cheap grace is not the kind of forgiveness that frees us from the toils of sin. Cheap grace is the grace we bestow on ourselves.

Cheap grace is the preaching of forgiveness without requiring repentance, baptism without church discipline, Communion without confession, absolution without personal confession. Cheap grace is grace without discipleship, grace without the cross, grace without Jesus Christ, living and incarnate.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Cheap grace. The term itself is offensive.

“Why do you use that expression?” a friend asked. “It just seems to denigrate the grace of God. After all, grace isn’t cheap —it’s absolutely free! Isn’t perfect freeness the very essence of grace?”

But “cheap grace” doesn’t speak of God’s grace. It is a self-imparted grace, a pseudograce. This grace is “cheap” in value, not cost. It is a bargain-basement, damaged-goods, washed-out, moth-eaten, second-hand grace. It is a manmade grace reminiscent of the indulgences Rome was peddling in Martin Luther’s day. Cheap? The cost is actually far more than the buyer could possibly realize, though the “grace” is utterly worthless.

The term “cheap grace” was coined by a German Lutheran pastor and Nazi resister named Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Bonhoeffer was hanged in 1945 by SS guards, but not before his writings had left their mark. Bonhoeffer’s theological perspective was neo-orthodox, and evangelicalism rightly rejects much of his teaching. But Bonhoeffer spoke powerfully against the secularization of the church. He correctly analyzed the dangers of the church’s frivolous attitude toward grace. After we discard the neo-orthodox teachings, we do well to pay heed to Bonhoeffer’s diatribe against cheap grace:

Cheap grace means grace as a doctrine, a principle, a system. It means forgiveness of sins proclaimed as a general truth, the love of God taught as the Christian “conception” of God. An intellectual assent to that idea is held to be of itself sufficient to secure the remission of sins. The Church which holds the correct doctrine of grace has, it is supposed, ipso facto a part in that grace. In such a Church the world finds a cheap covering for its sins; no contrition is required, still less any real desire to be delivered from sin. Cheap grace therefore amounts to a denial of the Incarnation of the Word of God.

Cheap grace means the justification of sin without the justification of the sinner. Grace alone does everything, they say, and so everything can remain as it was before. “All for sin could not atone.” The world goes on in the same old way, and we are still sinners “even in the best life” as Luther said. Well, then, let the Christian live like the rest of the world, let him model himself on the world’s standards in every sphere of life, and not presumptuously aspire to live a different life under grace from his old life under sin.

Cheap grace has not lost its worldly appeal since Bonhoeffer wrote those words. If anything, the tendency to cheapen grace has eaten its way into the heart of evangelical Christianity. The no-lordship movement has led the way in legitimizing and institutionalizing cheap grace in American fundamentalism. No-lordship teaching tragically misconstrues and misapplies the biblical doctrine of grace. While verbally extolling the wonders of grace, it exchanges the real item for a facsimile. This bait-and-switch tactic has confounded many sincere Christians.

MacArthur, J. (2000). The gospel according to the Apostles : The role of works in the life of faith. Originally published: Faith works. Dallas : Word Pub., c1993. Nashville, TN: Word Pub.

Sandy Marshall

This sounds like a sermon we had a few months ago at my church. Does your last name began with an M and are you from VA? I like John MacArthur too, have you read Hard To Believe? Don't mean to be nosey but your comments sounds like one someone I know.

Rosie Perera

How about the works of Dietrich Bonhoeffer?

I'll second that!

Luuk Dondorp

Yes! I do hope that Bonhoeffer will become available in the Logos format. As soon as it will be available I will buy it.

NetworkGeek

+1 [Y]

Steve Nicholson

Me too!

Pastor Mick

Another vote for the works of Bonhoeffer.

Guillermo Velazquez

Very much interested in Bonhoeffer's books!

David C. Rowe

Yes to ALL of Bonhoeffer's works.

Eric Woernle

[Y][Y] I thinks his Works would be a great addition!!!!!

Mark Johnson

It would be awesome to have at least some Bonheoffer (Cost of Discipleship, Life Together, and Ethics) available in Logos in the "smart book" (tagged) form.

MJ. Smith

As long as we are in the B's can't we also get some Martin Buber?

Bruce

It would be awesome to have at least some Bonheoffer (Cost of Discipleship, Life Together, and Ethics) available in Logos in the "smart book" (tagged) form.

Perhaps it’s a publisher issue, but I have noticed that Bonheoffer's books do not seem to be available on Kindle either. It would really be nice to have this worked out so books such as these can be available for those of us who rely almost exclusively on digital books due to work situations.

George Somsel

It would be awesome to have at least some Bonheoffer (Cost of Discipleship, Life Together, and Ethics) available in Logos in the "smart book" (tagged) form.

Perhaps it’s a publisher issue, but I have noticed that Bonheoffer's books do not seem to be available on Kindle either. It would really be nice to have this worked out so books such as these can be available for those of us who rely almost exclusively on digital books due to work situations.

I looked at some of the print editions and have come to the conclusion that there may be a copyright issue. I would imagine that the original edition (in German) is probably PD by now, but the translation may be another issue.

Philana Crouch

It would be awesome to have at least some Bonheoffer (Cost of Discipleship, Life Together, and Ethics) available in Logos in the "smart book" (tagged) form.

Perhaps it’s a publisher issue, but I have noticed that Bonheoffer's books do not seem to be available on Kindle either. It would really be nice to have this worked out so books such as these can be available for those of us who rely almost exclusively on digital books due to work situations.

This has changed, Discipleship is on Kindle now http://www.amazon.com/Discipleship-Dbw-Vol-4-ebook/dp/B003BXRO3Y/ref=sr_1_6?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1320543686&sr=1-6