visual filter question

Dennis Audet
Dennis Audet Member Posts: 159 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

This is probably trivial but I do not have the expert knowledge to do this:

Is it possible to use a visual filter to highlight all biblical references (citations) in an open resource?
How would this be done?
Thanks in advance for your consideration. Smile

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  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭

    why would you need to?

    they should be blue text  already rather than black text

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  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,288

    Hi Dennis

    It can be done - though I don't know how efficient it will be.

    If you run a Basic search for a range of scriptures (in the example below I am using Hebrews-Revelation) you will get search results for all references within that range

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    If you "make filter" from here, you will get what you want.

    You will note that the search took 34 seconds for me and this is a small resource. Admittedly my computer is well towards the low-end of what many people are using but you might find it takes a long time on larger resources.

    Hope this is helpful

    Graham

  • Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :)
    Keep Smiling 4 Jesus :) MVP Posts: 23,165

    Is it possible to use a visual filter to highlight all biblical references (citations) in an open resource?

    Yes, can use Bible Book abbreviations => http://www.logos.com/support/windows/L4/abbreviations

    Suggest doing a search first, which creates a temporary visual filter to highlight results in a resource.  The screenshot shows 30 seconds to find 4,078 results in one resource (lots of verses), then highlight them:

    image

    A search can be converted to a visual filter by clicking "Make Filter" (next to magnifying glass).

    DominicM said:

    why would you need to?

    they should be blue text  already rather than black text

    In a lexicon, all links are blue, so have created a visual filter to colorize a number of non-Bible links:

    image

    Caveat: this visual filter takes awhile for colors to appear in a Lexicon (using a laptop with 2nd Generation Core i7, RAM disk, and Logos installed in fastest partition).

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  • DominicM
    DominicM Member Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭

    that actually makes sense in a bizarre way.. I can see why you might wish to now

     

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  • Dennis Audet
    Dennis Audet Member Posts: 159 ✭✭

    all respondents, thanks for your advice. [:)]

    When I posted my original query, I also emailed an acquaintence (Mo) who has some expertise and I was fortunate [:D] to receive a timely response captured below:

    Hi Mo,

    I have a visual filter question for you.

    Is it possible to use a visual filter to highlight all biblical references (citations) in an open resource?

    How would this be done?

    Thanks in advance for your consideration.

     Mo's reply:

    Hi Dennis,
    Good question.
    Yes it can be done. (,,, deleted text ...)
    The picture below shows the syntax for just the NT and one book, Concise Theology.
    <Bible ~ gen-rev>
    In the Visual Filter range list there is no option for Open Resources. You have to select one book at a time, a collection, or the Entire Library.

    image

    Mo's suggested solution was just what I needed. I'll explain my need for this a little further down after I explain how I implimented it.

    In the following image, I show how I created a new highlighting pallate called BIBLICAL REFERENCE containing a formatting entry I named All Biblical References (because it will apply to all passages from Genesis through Revelation). The highlighting tab shows my selections for font styling, background, text effects, borders & lines. The visual filter 'Visual Filter highlighting All Biblical References with 'Double Box, Blue Background'' on the upper right shows the <Bible ~ gen-rev> search string suggested by Mo. The lower right pane shows the application of the visual filter in an open user created resource.

    image

    To continue, I should tell you that I am not a twenty-something and my visual accruity is not so good. I want the biblical references to be overly easy to find (I.E. jump off the page). My need to find them is because when I highlight the text in an open resource and, in creating a Passage List using the Add passages from: ... selected text., all biblical references except the first are deleted in the process - so you end up with only the first occurance of a citation in the passage list. For some users' needs, this may be what is desired. For me, it is not. So to meet my needs, I need to go into the original text and identify all citations after the first and, editing the Passage List, insert the biblical referances in the appropriate places in the Passage List - ugh!  [:'(] Why didn't Logos make it an OPTION to not automatically delete all but first occurances?????

    In this one application, I foud 78 biblical references that were automatically deleted from the selected text, all of which I had to manually reinsert in my Passage List. This was not trivial in 80 pages of text so Mo's search suggestion was a huge help. [8-|]

    [I] Logos - would you please implement an OPTION to create Passage Lists without deleteing subsequent occurances of Biblical References. The defaul option could be to function as it does now. Please!

    For the glory of God alone! [Y]

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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,339

    in creating a Passage List using the Add passages from: ... selected text., all biblical references except the first are deleted in the process - so you end up with only the first occurance of a citation in the passage list.

    You will have to explain this with some screenshots as I cannot reproduce - I don't lose any references in my passage list.

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    Dave, I'm fairly sure that he means that if the same reference happens to turn up in several places in the selected text, it nevertheless only shows up once in the PL -- which is probably what most of us would want, but I guess there might be situations when one wants every occurrence in the exact order.

    I can confirm that it does indeed work this way, both when adding by selection and by clipboard from within Logos. I got a couple of odd results adding from outside Logos, though, but I'm far too tired to look closer at them now. I'll see if I can figure them out tomorrow.

    Mac Pro (late 2013) OS 12.6.2

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton MVP Posts: 36,339

    fgh said:

    Dave, I'm fairly sure that he means that if the same reference happens to turn up in several places in the selected text, it nevertheless only shows up once in the PL

    I took it as losing references from the PL, which doesn't happen. However, I copied passages from this selection without losing any, and they appeared in the same order in the PL.

    (Mk 6:39; Rev 8:7+); (Rev 6:8)

    (Rev 13:18 v.r. NA26); not in LN

    (1Co 15:47+); 2. LN 1.42 earthly (1Co 15:48–49+)

    (Rev 6:6+; Rev 6:8)

    (Mt 7:6; Mk 5:11; Lk 8:32, 15:15)

    If the PL is then sorted you lose the duplicates!

    Dave
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    Windows 11 & Android 13