Can I get full features without base package upgrade?

Unless you're just absolutely in love with the pronunciation thing (I'm not even which languages: just greek?), the Crossgrade makes FAR more sense for what you're expressing:

http://www.logos.com/minimalcrossgrade  $69

I had the Original Languages, added the crossgrade and see literally nothing in Scholars etc that I'd waste money on. I pick and choose exactly what I NEED, wait for a good SALE, etc.

I ended up spending a solid five-figures (a choice), but there's very little I bought that is in the higher packages; even Portfolio isn't that great. I got what fit my needs.

Fraser Edwards said:

 

There seems to be very little I would gain in resources moving from Leaders to Scholars (purple) unless anyone can sell me on the books I would gain? :-)

Thanks

That we can probably do!  What are you planning on using Logos for, though?  Are you a pastor wanting to use it for sermon prep?  Do you teach a Bible study?  Are you wanting to do devotional reading and/or personal/private study?  Something else?  Your primary use(s) of the program will help determine what resources are most valuable.

Fraser ... before you decide, note that the syntax search (if I read the chart right), begins at Original Languages and up. Some folks (many?) really NEED to KNOW that; you might be too.  I have it but do most of my searches in another product that has more functionality.

Fraser Edwards said:

:-)  

I've been studying part time at bible college and preaching occasionally.  Possibly considering a full time degree in the future along with continuing to preach occasionally.  I've mainly been using logos for college assignments and sermon prep although at this stage I'm not likely to be preaching more than once a month.

Does that help?  

I think that the current level of resources in the Leaders package gives me plenty to go on with and I've added the Tyndale set and BST.  It's more the missing features that bother me rather than having more books at this stage but perhaps I'm just curious about what they do and wouldn't really use them?

Thanks!

The main things you get by upgrading to Scholars is in the Preaching and Teaching section (mainly a bunch of sermon outlines), the Ancient/Original Texts sections, and the Exegetical Guide and Bible Word Study features of the program.  If you're preaching once a month, you very well could find these things helpful.  However, if you don't plan on spending any time in the original languages and primarily use commentaries for your study, then you're probably better off spending your money on some good commentaries and/or dictionaries at this point and upgrading later when you go to seminary.  I tend to use a combination of both, which makes the Scholar's Library invaluable (or at least very valuable!)

Another thing to remember is the more advanced features are pointless without the backup material to use them. That's why many of the language tools, for example, are not available unless you pick up Original Languages or higher. You may want to also wait till Logos 5 to see if they won't offer some spectacular deal to upgrade while moving to the new platform. If you are not desperate for the tools right at the moment, the wait might pay off.

As far as the Scholarship packages: gold or platinum are the best. I've found that many of the solid resource like BDAG are helpful. Picking them up individually might make sense but you'd miss out on some of the wider array of commentaries you get as well. I now own a wide range of commentaries that make different view points, levels of comprehension, and application possible.

Actually I bought one of the addins a couple of weeks back.

Now it's true, Logos, though accepting payment, had no clue how to actually deliver the product. And the refund lady at Logos was somewhat confused as to why a Logos4 user would want the addin.

Anyway, they've got so many balls in the air, at least they're all very nice people.