Sentence Diagramming
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Learning NT Greek Now and Then by David Parker is a good easy book on Greek and diagramming. It is in Logos and uses NA27 for teaching Greek Diagramming.
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I have this resource and hadn't looked at it much until reading your comment. The booklet is very basic and considering there's next to nothing for diagramming Greek sentences this can be a good beginner resource. The explanations of some of the difficulties a diagrammer might expect are good. For example page 166 he explains, "The verb is an equative so takes a predicate nominative rather than an accusative object. But which nominative is subject and which predicate? A rule of Greek grammar is that when one of the nominatives takes the article and the other does not, the one with the article is the subject." There are many such simple but useful explanations to move the diagrammer along.
I would however quibble with the way Parker teaches the dative, the relative pronoun and the compound sentence. I also do not approve of the way he diagrams prepositions (pg 44). His diagramming of Luke 1.2 on page 113 is clearly wrong. The actual method of diagramming then is quite different from the method I use.
Having said this let me say also that diagramming is more about digging into the Scripture than being "right" or "wrong". Determining relationships among words, phrases, paragraphs and sentences is the goal. If in the end nuggets have been mined then no method is "wrong." However, the method Parker uses in his booklet mimics the R/K method only slightly and is very little like the tool I use.
Terry
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Hi Terry: Yes, I love this R/K too! Unfortunately, I've done all my diagrams with pencil and coloured pencil... If I can figure out a way to colour scan all this into PDF...I'll do so.
I didn't know that Logos had software to do sentence diagramming. I'm investigating now...
Thanks,
Gavin.
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The KoineWorks Diagramming software package is still available at http://ericsowell.com/blog/2009/1/18/koineworks-diagramming.
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Terry,
Can you send me the zip file for Koineworks?
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Do you know any good books for learning tree diagramming?
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Daniel,
Schreiner has an excellent section on diagramming in Interpreting the Pauline Epistles. Also, Kantenwein has a book specifically devoted to the topic, Diagrammatical Analysis. Kantenwein is cheaper, but Schreiner's book covers more ground and might be more useful in the long run. There are also some aspects of Kantenwein that I'm not a fan of, such as his approach to using diagrams in preaching.
Hope that helps!
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Daniel said:
Do you know any good books for learning tree diagramming?
You mat want to check this video out. It is about 1.5 hours long, but it has some good basic information.
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davidphillips said:
Schreiner has an excellent section on diagramming in Interpreting the Pauline Epistles. Also, Kantenwein has a book specifically devoted to the topic, Diagrammatical Analysis. Kantenwein is cheaper, but Schreiner's book covers more ground and might be more useful in the long run. There are also some aspects of Kantenwein that I'm not a fan of, such as his approach to using diagrams in preaching.
Hope that helps!
Thanks, I've read Diagrammatical Analysis and was looking specifically for tree diagramming help. Interpreting the Pauline Episltes looks like an interesting book I'll have to check it out.
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Fredc said:
You mat want to check this video out. It is about 1.5 hours long, but it has some good basic information.
Thanks, I'll check it out. It looks like a good refresher as I've had experience with line diagramming before. But I don't know anything about tree diagramming. I'm assuming there's more to it than drawing my diagram lines in a different shap, but I haven't found much info on it.
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Daniel,
My apologies. When you said "tree diagramming," I thought "line diagramming." I'm not sure what you specifically mean by "tree diagramming," so I can't say that Schreiner's book addresses it.
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Not sure about tree diagramming, but the best introduction to sentence diagramming I've yet seen is by Eugene Moutoux. I bought 2 of his from Amazon:
- Drawing Sentences: A Guide to Diagramming
- Diagramming Step by Step: One Hundred and Fifty-Five Steps to Excellence in Sentence Diagramming
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Thanks,
Those sound like useful books.
What I'm thinking of looks something like what you'll see in this link http://www.ductape.net/~eppie/tree/screenshots.html
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There are three basic styles of parse trees used in linguistics - constituency, dependency and x-bar. Nearly every text for introduction to linguistics or introduction to syntax will include a section on drawing tree diagrams. Some places to start:
http://www.nativlang.com/linguistics/grammar-xbar-lessons.php
http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~hollingk/classes/lec16.CL1-f11.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luiUK4tMjy8
http://www.nltk.org/book/ch08.html
http://allthingslinguistic.com/post/100357884082/how-to-draw-syntax-trees-part-1-so-you-asked
If you still have questions, ask again.
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MJ. Smith said:
There are three basic styles of parse trees used in linguistics - constituency, dependency and x-bar. Nearly every text for introduction to linguistics or introduction to syntax will include a section on drawing tree diagrams. Some places to start:
http://www.nativlang.com/linguistics/grammar-xbar-lessons.php
http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~hollingk/classes/lec16.CL1-f11.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luiUK4tMjy8
http://www.nltk.org/book/ch08.html
http://allthingslinguistic.com/post/100357884082/how-to-draw-syntax-trees-part-1-so-you-asked
If you still have questions, ask again.
I think this will keep me busy for quite awhile. Thank you.
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