Convince me: Hermeneia/Continental Commentaries
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OK, I just bought it. Looking through it now...
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Just kidding.
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I think You are being very aware and healthy admitting this.
I can admit that I have a low dosage of epilepsia medication. I haven't had an outbreak and I'm not likely to have, but I did have a 700 Cubic foot truck accident at 72 MPH on slippery road, got just a cratch, my colleague got nothing - which I've told no-one but my girlfriend. Had good insurance, truck was unusable afterwards. Currently I have no insurances, just a fire-proof safe for storing some of the most cherisable books and Bibles. I'm not an insurance -type-of-guy.Disclosure!
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Ha! Joseph, you're such a pleasure to read. I previously argued to myself I didn't need ACCS for literally 7 years. I ended up buying it. So effectively I missed out on 7 years of great reading, thinking, and learning. I could say I was prudently watching my pennies. Oh yes ...instead getting my nifty car, great new refrigerator and washer/dryer set, and trips to Northern California. Sure.
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Joseph Turner said:
, they do not indeed. The set was going to add another $40 a month to the $73 a month that I already owe, which is already $73 more than I should be paying, so I am going to fight my compulsivity and decline the offer. I have it in my head that I want the set, and it is driving me crazy, but I am going to pass. Been there; done that. [:D] Good for you.
george
gfsomselיְמֵי־שְׁנוֹתֵינוּ בָהֶם שִׁבְעִים שָׁנָה וְאִם בִּגְבוּרֹת שְׁמוֹנִים שָׁנָה וְרָהְבָּם עָמָל וָאָוֶן
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DMB said:
Ha! Joseph, you're such a pleasure to read. I previously argued to myself I didn't need ACCS for literally 7 years. I ended up buying it. So effectively I missed out on 7 years of great reading, thinking, and learning. I could say I was prudently watching my pennies. Oh yes ...instead getting my nifty car, great new refrigerator and washer/dryer set, and trips to Northern California. Sure.
What is "ACCS"?
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My washer has broken down ~1½ years ago if I remember correctly (a long time so I don't remember). It's cumbersome to use the common facilities (such as that the only free time is at 1 AM-7AM.) My washer is not old at all, (a burglar broke it). Spare-parts are provided nearby.
I should put a few $100 on my vehicles but I've been procrastinating.
I have high rent because the appartment I live in is luxurious and in a large city -area.
I'll have a school tuition fee and high-school books to pay. I haven't finished high-school; I have about 10% left for minimum graduation only. I don't know yet if the adult high-school studies are going to continue August 2012 or January 2013 - it's a Catholic school which is why I'm suddenly motivated (I was an atheist for a period and have become christian again since 1¼ years. Before that I was a Christian for 16 years). It's been 4 years since I was in school.
It's equally difficult for me to resist the offer. I know I could find better titles for many of the parts of the Bible, but the convenience of one big order is tempting.Disclosure!
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Eric Weiss said:
What is "ACCS"?
Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture (ACCS) (29 vols.)
A patristic commentary done by IVP, currently LOGOS is not selling it directly it is like Bigfoot pops up on Logos servers for sale every once in a while, then it disappears for long periods. But seriously it is sold on CDROM and can be found most places you find books. Very good series, except the Apocrypha volume it covers some of the volume not all of it.
-Dan
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Unix said:
Watch out regarding the 4 Esdras -volume. As You can see from this page: http://www.logos.com/product/7756/hermeneia-new-testament#026
... it's bundled with the NT. So that likely means that the title regards 4 Esdras 1-12 as a Christianizied book.Interesting conclusion, given that it's in the OT bundle as well: Hermeneia: Old Testament (39 vols.). All the volumes that don't easily fit the OT/NT pattern are in both.
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Joseph,
Given that you have "OCD", bee aware that for the $600 you spent, you are still missing the following in Hermeneia:
Forthcoming (from bestcommentaries.com)
? Clifford, Richard J. Genesis ? McBride, S. Dean Exodus ? Anderson, Gary Leviticus ? Numbers ? Lohfink, Norbert; Braulik, Georg Deuteronomy ? McCarter, P. Kyle Joshua ? Wilson, Robert McLachlan 1/2 Kings ? Talmon, Shemaryahu Ezra/Nehemiah ? O'Connor, Michael Esther ? Coogan, Michael Job ? Hossfeld, Frank Lothar; Zenger, Erich Psalms 1-50 ? Schipper, Bernd Proverbs ? Roberts, J.J.M. Isaiah 1-39 ? Roberts, J.J.M. Lamentations ? Hiebert, Ted Joel ? Kugel, James Jonah ? Vanderhooft, David Habakkuk ? Hanson, Paul D. Haggai, Zechariah ? van der Woude, Adam S. Malachi ? Bovon, Francois Luke 19:28-24:53 ? Attridge, Harold W. John ? Mitchell, Margaret M. 2 Corinthians ? Hendrix, Holland Ephesians ? Holloway, Paul A. Philippians ? Koester, Helmut 1/2 Thessalonians ? Malherbe, Abraham J. Pastoral Epistles ? Kloppenborg, John S. James ? Pearson, B. A. 2 Peter/Jude ? Fiorenza, Elizabeth Schussler Revelation Therefore, be ready to pay much more money if you want to complete the series.
I went to other online bookstore to check out some of the sample. I already have Anchor Bible, NICOT/NT, WBC, NIGTC, PNTC. I personally found the reading much more difficult than the other commentaries. It goes into details which do not seem relevant to me as a non-scholar reader. If you look at their ranking in Bestcommentaries.com, their strongest books are on the minor prophets. One can keep spending and spending and there is no end to it. If you want a complete set, being a person with OCD, the other commentaries may be better for the sake of completeness.
Just for kicks, go over to the Puritanboard forum and search for the Puritan's view on Hermeneia. [;)]
I asked a very famous and well-respected retired NT scholar why there are so many new commentaries, and are the new ones any better than the old ones. His answer is that in the academic world, it is published or perished. Given that there are more people now on Earth than ever before, the number of commentaries has to increase. His opinion is that Calvin's commentary is still up-to-date despite the general attitude that new is always better.
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Paul Lee said:
Just for kicks, go over to the Puritanboard forum and search for the Puritan's view on Hermeneia.
The fact that they have something by Harold Camping (the sky is falling on …) on there doesn't commend it.
george
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George Somsel said:Paul Lee said:
Just for kicks, go over to the Puritanboard forum and search for the Puritan's view on Hermeneia.
The fact that they have something by Harold Camping (the sky is falling on …) on there doesn't commend it.
You will not find any site more resolutely opposed to Harold Camping than the Puritanboard, that really was a cheap shot.
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Mike Pettit said:George Somsel said:Paul Lee said:
Just for kicks, go over to the Puritanboard forum and search for the Puritan's view on Hermeneia.
The fact that they have something by Harold Camping (the sky is falling on …) on there doesn't commend it.
You will not find any site more resolutely opposed to Harold Camping than the Puritanboard, that really was a cheap shot.
Not really since they put it up there.
george
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George Somsel said:Mike Pettit said:George Somsel said:Paul Lee said:
Just for kicks, go over to the Puritanboard forum and search for the Puritan's view on Hermeneia.
The fact that they have something by Harold Camping (the sky is falling on …) on there doesn't commend it.
You will not find any site more resolutely opposed to Harold Camping than the Puritanboard, that really was a cheap shot.
Not really since they put it up there.
You really have no shame, perhaps you should read the ninth commandment.
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DMB said:
Ha! Joseph, you're such a pleasure to read. I previously argued to myself I didn't need ACCS for literally 7 years. I ended up buying it. So effectively I missed out on 7 years of great reading, thinking, and learning. I could say I was prudently watching my pennies. Oh yes ...instead getting my nifty car, great new refrigerator and washer/dryer set, and trips to Northern California. Sure.
I will get the set eventually, but I need to pay some other stuff off first. I have a couple of credit cards that are getting out of hand and with the Logos payment plan, I need to take a step back. Maybe the set will go on sell again.
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Brothers, no flaming please. Keep it civilized. Stay focus on the question: to buy, or not to buy.
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Paul Lee said:
Joseph,
Given that you have "OCD", bee aware that for the $600 you spent, you are still missing the following in Hermeneia:
Therefore, be ready to pay much more money if you want to complete the series.
I went to other online bookstore to check out some of the sample. I already have Anchor Bible, NICOT/NT, WBC, NIGTC, PNTC. I personally found the reading much more difficult than the other commentaries. It goes into details which do not seem relevant to me as a non-scholar reader. If you look at their ranking in Bestcommentaries.com, their strongest books are on the minor prophets. One can keep spending and spending and there is no end to it. If you want a complete set, being a person with OCD, the other commentaries may be better for the sake of completeness.
Just for kicks, go over to the Puritanboard forum and search for the Puritan's view on Hermeneia.
I asked a very famous and well-respected retired NT scholar why there are so many new commentaries, and are the new ones any better than the old ones. His answer is that in the academic world, it is published or perished. Given that there are more people now on Earth than ever before, the number of commentaries has to increase. His opinion is that Calvin's commentary is still up-to-date despite the general attitude that new is always better.
I agree with much of what you say. It wouldn't bother my OCD so much that the sets aren't complete, because I would justify it in my mind by saying that they just aren't available yet, but they will be. That is then the problem, and your other point: I would feel the need to buy every book issued afterwards, and at $100.00 every time they come out with a couple of volumes, I would be in a bad way. With that said, you still can't beat the price.
I would really like to have the NICOT/NT and AB, but they are too expensive for now. I have some of the print volumes.
I don't always go for new commentaries because they are "new," but I do appreciate newer commentaries by respected authors. With all due respect to Mr. Calvin, there is a lot of biblical scholarship that has taken place in the last 500 years. Also and again, I know that there are people who don't like the set because they disagree with it, but I don't think that alone to be a valid reason to dislike a commentary set, particularly if it has been highly influential in general. If subsequent scholars are forced to interact with it, then it has value.
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Mike Pettit said:
You really have no shame, perhaps you should read the ninth commandment.
Of course I have no shame when I have no reason for shame. Perhaps you should have some shame.
george
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George Somsel said:Paul Lee said:
Just for kicks, go over to the Puritanboard forum and search for the Puritan's view on Hermeneia.
The fact that they have something by Harold Camping (the sky is falling on …) on there doesn't commend it.
If you're referring to this post/article at Puritanboard forum:
Harold Camping - "Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts..."
by Semper Fidelis
Published on 05-24-2011 09:51 AMit says:
"False teachers like Harold Camping feed the carnal desire of man to
believe they can navigate the labyrinth of the hidden and inscrutable
things of God without holding on to the thread of God's Word that truly
guides them through it. Claiming a form of Godliness and a desire to
"escape judgment", it feeds the carnality and idolatry of man. Man is
not comfortable obeying God's command that the hidden things belong to
Him alone. Men prodly claim that they can name the day and the hour.
God's ways, it would seem, are not truly inscrutable. Indeed, God's
"punch" is so telegraphed that we can easily duck the Arm of His
Judgment."That doesn't seem to be something by Harold Camping, but rather a condemnation of Camping.
Optimistically Egalitarian (Galatians 3:28)
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What am I missing? I see the collection we are discussing with 63 volumes, but I see an OT collection with 39, NT with 31, and 2 upgrades with 3 and 2 respectively. So without printing out the lists and comparing I'm assuming the sale collection doesn't include 12 volumes?
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Whenever Herm goes on sale, that's always the question. The OT and NT contain overlapping volumes (apocrypha, etc). It's the complete set.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Eric Weiss said:George Somsel said:Paul Lee said:
Just for kicks, go over to the Puritanboard forum and search for the Puritan's view on Hermeneia.
The fact that they have something by Harold Camping (the sky is falling on …) on there doesn't commend it.
If you're referring to this post/article at Puritanboard forum:
Harold Camping - "Today, if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts..."
by Semper Fidelis
Published on 05-24-2011 09:51 AMit says:
"False teachers like Harold Camping feed the carnal desire of man to believe they can navigate the labyrinth of the hidden and inscrutable things of God without holding on to the thread of God's Word that truly guides them through it. Claiming a form of Godliness and a desire to "escape judgment", it feeds the carnality and idolatry of man. Man is not comfortable obeying God's command that the hidden things belong to Him alone. Men prodly claim that they can name the day and the hour. God's ways, it would seem, are not truly inscrutable. Indeed, God's "punch" is so telegraphed that we can easily duck the Arm of His Judgment."
That doesn't seem to be something by Harold Camping, but rather a condemnation of Camping.
George, I often appreciate your directness and your resolve, but I think this time you jumped the gun and judged too quickly.
I will also say that I did take the original advice and looked up Hermeneia, and I actually found about the same thing said that we have already discussed. Admittedly, I did not spen a lot of time looking at it, but basically they said that it is generally liberally slanted, every volume is not the best for its given book (so if possible buy single volumes where desired), it's highly detailed and academic in nature, and it is expensive. These are all fair handed criticisms. Of course I would consider single volumes if they were available in Logos, and I do own 1 or 2 paper versions.
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james e snow said:
What am I missing? I see the collection we are discussing with 63 volumes, but I see an OT collection with 39, NT with 31, and 2 upgrades with 3 and 2 respectively. So without printing out the lists and comparing I'm assuming the sale collection doesn't include 12 volumes?
The 63 volumes include the OT and NT sets, plus the 3 volume upgrade. It does not include the 2 volume upgrade.
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I see. Thanks.
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Thanks.
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james e snow said:
I see. Thanks.
I had the same question - i.e., how does 39 + 31 = 63? But then I saw that the OT and NT sets both contain 7 of the same volumes. So it's either (39-7) + 31 or 39 + (31-7) = 63. [H]
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Eric Weiss said:james e snow said:
I see. Thanks.
I had the same question - i.e., how does 39 + 31 = 63? But then I saw that the OT and NT sets both contain 7 of the same volumes. So it's either (39-7) + 31 or 39 + (31-7) = 63.
Ah, I get it now...math...good job. At least you didn't have letters intermingling amongst the numbers like some of them liberal math people do! [:P]
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Well I have jumped in and got it. So far so good. The best thing about it is that it spells centre correctly [:P]
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Joseph Turner said:
being a person with OCD
As my grandson (age 14) would point out, that's CDO for sufferers. [Think about it and alphabetical order.] This is, of course, the same grandson who accuses my cats of ADD every time they want attention.
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MJ. Smith said:Joseph Turner said:
being a person with OCD
As my grandson (age 14) would point out, that's CDO for sufferers. [Think about it and alphabetical order.] This is, of course, the same grandson who accuses my cats of ADD every time they want attention.
MJ, you have grandchildren? You are waaaaaaaaay toooooo young to have grandchildren.
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MJ. Smith said:DAL said:
a scholarly paper, yes, they are good; but not very useful for sermon preparation
Some of us are lucky enough to have homilists who don't distinguish between scholarly and pastoral in researching their homilies. I haven't found the money for ICC yet but Hermeneia was an early absoluter requirement - one I'd been introduced to in parish adult ed.
Well, correction: I meant "Academic paper" not "scholarly paper." Someone once said, "We don't have to be scholars to study the Bible, but we can all be scholarly" or something along those lines [8-|] Anyway, I believe some "preachers" get to technical during their sermon and their communication of academic studies that they totally lose the audience and as a result nobody is touched by the Word because the messenger failed to focus on the soul saving message and instead tried to "impress" the crowd with all his "technical jargon." A sermon doesn't need to sound "pious" it just needs to be Scriptural and God will do the rest in touching men's hearts. A little Hebrew and a little Greek here and there yes, by all means, but sometimes the most embarrassing and ignorant words a "minister" can utter are: "Well, the Hebrew/Greek says..." or "Hermeneia, one of the most respected commentaries says..." In answer to that, it is said that an old lady once said, "Well, the Bible can sure shed some light on what that commentary says..." LOL Anyway, to the OP, if you have the money and you want to spend it, go for it, I'm sure you can learn something from that set and the Bible will help you shed some light on it... [:P] [;)]...I know if I could afford that set and NICOT/NICNT I would buy them, but as of now, just being a part time minister won't allow me to keep spending money on books like I used to when I was preaching full time. Anyway, have a great evening!
Blessings!
DAL
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I notice this forum tends to associate 'pastors' with 'sermons'. Is it good for a sermon?
Our pastor (and I suspect most) spend considerably more time in Bible classes, emails with members and just basic talking with the believers and near-believers. Some want hard data and no compromise; some just want confirmation they're on-track; others really are most interested in encouragement. I'm glad ours moves across the gamut and seems to enjoy it.
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I have to deal manually with Logos in order to set up my bankcard details because I live abroad (CVV is needed). That gives the convenience of a couple of extra days to think so that I don't make decisions in a haste (they don't seem to be responding especially quickly to my email). I think I'm cancelling the Hermenia -order, especially if I don't get a refund for the Hermeneia Upgrade (3-vols) which I bought on April 19. 2012, or a REALLY good further discount (in the order there's also some more cheaper items).
Instead I thought of this item: the 2011 [url="http://community.logos.com/forums/p/51352/381306.aspx#381306"]Oxford Encyclopedia of the Books of the Bible[/url], it's newer than Hermeneia, which is an advantage, and I started to doubt whether I really need to look up all that much in the Hermeneia Continental series to justify the price.
If I regret my decision soon, I can always purchase Accordance with Hermenia for $700 and a small Mac laptop (where I'll install Logos too) for taking sermon notes and such things on town. + I'll buy a desktop Windows computer (because that's cheap). (Right now I only have a laptop, a mid-size Windows 7, but I'll have to give it away very soon because it's only borrowed.) In the mean time when I don't have any computer, I'll be able to read print books.Disclosure!
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Unix:
Did you check out CCEL (Christian Classics Ethereal Library)? They have Catholics commentaries by Aquinas (Catena Aurea), Calvin commentaries, etc. for FREE.
As an evangelical, my first pick for commentaries is WBC, considering the cost and overall quality of the series. But it still costs $699, and for most people that is a lot of money. One set of commentaries that many people overlook is the Believers Church Bible Commentary (BCBC). It is written for Anabaptists, and takes a very pious and high view of the Scripture. It may not have the most original insights or breakthrough researches, but they are very even in quality and great for intermediate level use (such as sermon preparation and devotion). And the set is significantly cheaper than NICOT/NT.
I would love to have Hermeneia... but I fear that my interest is more in collecting books than actually reading them. I respect MJ Smith's high view of the series (if she did not say how much she enjoyed it, I would not even be looking at the series.) If I am rich, I will have no second thought. But when I see other people in my congregations struggling to make ends meet, I feel a little guilty and realize I need to be wise about how to spend my resource.
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Well I for one am glad I jumped in on this series at the sale price. $599 is still pricey, no doubt. But it's a series I've had my eye on for a long time and was waiting until the price was right. It looks like the last time it went on sale was 2010, so I decided I should go ahead and get it now while I can. So far, I'm a happy buyer with no regret. It will take me several months to pay off my cc that I use for Logos now, but I don't foresee any other major purchases until the Xmas sales unless something big gets released from pre-pub. (unfortunately, I did have to cancel my order for the Baker OT commentary series, as that would have been too much with this sale).
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http://www.ccel.org/ccel/calvin/commentaries.i.html is a bit interesting. Although I wouldn't pay $39 for the download. I have the Catholic Foundations Library, so I allready have Catena Aurea (I used a coupon-code for the Library and got -15% off).
Soon I won't have free internet anymore. Internet is pretty expensive in the house I live in. I don't know when I'll afford internet again.
Is there an easy way to download a webpage so that it can be read offline? Is that possible on both Mac and Windows? One way, that would be a bit time-consuming, would of course be to separately save each webpage on the harddrive.Paul Lee said:Did you check out CCEL (Christian Classics Ethereal Library)?
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Unix said:
Soon I won't have free internet anymore. Internet is pretty expensive in the house I live in. I don't know when I'll afford internet again.
Is there an easy way to download a webpage so that it can be read offline? Is that possible on both Mac and Windows? One way, that would be a bit time-consuming, would of course be to separately save each webpage on the harddrive.Paul Lee said:Did you check out CCEL (Christian Classics Ethereal Library)?
CCEL has many books on Kindle; Catena Aurea for $4.99, for instance. You can install the Kindle app on your PC.
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Also check out the Internet Archive (www.archive.org) for many public domain works that are freely available to download, and already in a variety of formats (html, txt, pdf, epub). You can always Calibre to convert formats to/from Kindle (.mobi) or other devices.
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Well, there is no optical fibre in this house even though there's a lot of apartments and this is a densely populated quarter of the town. Only options are flat-fee ADSL via the phone copper line (expensive) or flat-fee cellular internet broadband (expensive), unless You want an old fashioned modem (I have a desk-phone line).
OK, Kindle is available for both PC and Mac: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_rel_topic?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200488020Evan Boardman said:
Where do you live, in Mcdonalds? SmileUnix said:Soon I won't have free internet anymore.
But if I want to install Kindle book(s) on both a desktop PC and a laptop Mac, do I have to purchase licenses for both? That would double the cost.
Kindle Calvin commentaries seem pretty expensive: http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=sr_nr_scat_341677031_ln?rh=n%3A341677031%2Ck%3Ajohn+calvin+commentaries&keywords=john+calvin+commentaries&ie=UTF8&qid=1342035232&scn=341677031&h=f7ee96c5efe3a50736c3943943940f0f6b79360d#/ref=sr_pg_13?rh=n%3A341677031%2Ck%3Ajohn+calvin+commentaries&page=13&sort=price&keywords=john+calvin+commentaries&ie=UTF8&qid=1342035310
Thanks, works fast! But it's not in text form, and how do I read it offline? http://archive.org/search.php?query=John%20Calvin%20commentariesRev Chris said:check out the Internet Archive (www.archive.org)
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Unix said:
But if I want to install Kindle book(s) on both a desktop PC and a laptop Mac, do I have to purchase licenses for both? That would double the cost.You can download to up to 5 devices at any one time (i.e. you can keep re-downloading as long as you delete them from the devices you don't need them on).
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This is the beauty of cross-platform licenses that is the trend among ebook platforms like Vyrsos/Logos, Amazon, B&N, etc - you buy the license once and can use it on many devices/platforms.
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Kindle doesn't seem to sell that many bundles, so CCEL seems less expensive, although still too expensive so I don't think I'll buy it
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Unix said:
Thanks, works fast! But it's not in text form, and how do I read it offline? http://archive.org/search.php?query=John%20Calvin%20commentaries”>http://archive.org/search.php?query=John%20Calvin%20commentariesRev Chris said:check out the Internet Archive (www.archive.org)
Click on one of the search results, and you will see details on the left side of the page for offline download options. For instance, here is "The commentaries of M. John Calvin on the Acts of the Apostles":
http://archive.org/details/commentariesofmi00calv
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Yeah, I noticed that, but do I have to do that separately with each resource, is it not possible to download them as a bundle?
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Unix said:
Yeah, I noticed that, but do I have to do that separately with each resource, is it not possible to download them as a bundle?
Generally, no - they are listed separately. Such is the burden that comes with free resources. There's a reason why Logos charges a nominal fee to make public domain works available in the program. Just as there is a reason why "publishers" have created bundles for Kindle of public domain works and charge a fee for them. The works are freely available, but making them user-friendly comes with a cost.
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I wrote today at 9:58 AM:
... now I received an email from the seller (surprisingly late in the evening) that the order has been processed, so I don't know whether I can still cancel it or not. I think I'll be pleased with it though. I didn't get any response yet whether anyone thinks it's good or not?!Unix said:Instead I thought of this item: the 2011 Oxford Encyclopedia of the Books of the Bible, it's newer than Hermeneia, which is an advantage, [...]
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As an evangelical, my first pick for commentaries is WBC, considering the cost and overall quality of the series. But it still costs $699
Depends on when and where you buy it. It's frequently on sale for about $400, and that's bundled with a lot of other books.
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I did a new calculation, dropping many volumes from the interesting ones, and the interesting items would cost $445 as printed matter, including postage, that would be 4294 pages, averaging ¢10½ a page.
Regarding the rest of the volumes, I might have some use for the Ps -titles - but I still might buy the Berit Olam -volume as printed matter in addition that.
There would be quite a lot of overlapping. I'm for example going to buy: http://www.amazon.com/Ezekiel-Interpretation-Commentary-Teaching-Preaching/dp/0664238637/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1342112877&sr=1-1 ... as printed matter, or in Logos, if Logos releases it. Plus I allready have printed commentaries of Gn, Jn, Ro, Jas that I find better. And I have a brief Lk commentary that is written by Caird + the 2011 Oxford Encyclopedia of the Books of the Bible.
... and the twin volumes in this offer covering Galatians, are overlapping, the same goes for Qôheleth, Sonag of Songs and Micah.
Among the most interesting titles in this offer, are: Isaiah 13-27, Deutero-Isaiah, Hermeneia minor prophets (except the 1977 Joel and Amos -volume), 2 Corinthians 8 and 9, Johannine Letters.
... but I find Isaiah hard to grasp, and technical commentaries just makes it worse.
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