iPad App Wishlist

David McCulloch
David McCulloch Member Posts: 21 ✭✭
edited November 2024 in English Forum

Does Logos have a wishlist for the iPad app?

For the past few months, I have been forcing myself to use Logos instead of my hardcopy Bible at a weekly Bible study.  As a result, I have a few suggestions for making the iPad app into a better product.  For example:


  • Support tabbed reading panes (Google Chrome implemented this interface extremely well).  I am not talking about splitting the screen.
  • Ability to search on New Testament, not the entire Bible.
  • Ability to scroll text, not simply turn a page.  If this is not possible, at least let users align the page to any starting point.
  • Allow me to use my BDAG more easily, at least when I am connected via WiFi, to look-up selected words.
  • With IOS 6, support Siri's voice capabilities to permit hands-free navigation.
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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    David - Welcome to the forums! 

    You have some good suggestions. Logos does have a uservoice account, but they do not have one specifically for the mobile apps. [:(] 

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  • Steven Branson
    Steven Branson Member Posts: 41 ✭✭

    I love David's wish list and would add my support to his list, scrolling and tabs especially.

  • Brian Langhoff
    Brian Langhoff Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    I would like to voice my support of Logos investing in developing the iPad/iPhone app further.  Tabbed reading and limited Bible search field would be greatly useful.  I see more and more iPads at my seminary, and know that Logos could really further their case to be the leader in Bible software with a robust application for the iPad.

  • Mark Johnson
    Mark Johnson Member Posts: 280 ✭✭

    These suggetions are very useful and helpful!!!!

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Welcome to the forums Brian!

    I would like to voice my support of Logos investing in developing the iPad/iPhone app further.

    I can't speak as to the suggestions given, but I can assure you that Logos is continuing to develop the app. 

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  • JZ
    JZ Member Posts: 57 ✭✭

    I will get behind the suggestion for scrolling as well.  This would be a great help. 

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  • Ryan Romine
    Ryan Romine Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    These are great suggestions!! The ability to actually scroll the text would be so beneficial

  • Terry Roberts
    Terry Roberts Member Posts: 46 ✭✭

    Those are all needed enhancements.  Additionally, I would like to see the ability to have a "downloaded only" view for library.

  • Aaron Liu
    Aaron Liu Member Posts: 11 ✭✭

    Ditto these enhancement request.

    Also appreciate the hard work the iOS team at Logos are putting into making the iPad version more 'usable' and 'effective' for pastoral studies. Keep them coming!

  • Gary L. Bennett
    Gary L. Bennett Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    I would also like to see where you could use your split screen to have, lets say your Bible/Interlinear on top and your notes/lesson on the bottom of the screen. The developments are coming along great. Keep it up.

  • Jacob Hantla
    Jacob Hantla MVP Posts: 3,874

    I would like everything on your list and my order or priority would be


    • Search restricted to subset of bible (nt, out, single book etc)
    • Easier lexicon lookup
    • Tabbed 
    • Option for scrolling
    • Voice but I would prefer read to me option over voice navigation

    Jacob Hantla
    Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
    gbcaz.org

  • RyanB
    RyanB Member Posts: 686 ✭✭✭

    Prayer lists which sync to the desktop is the only thing keeping me from always using my iPad for my quiet time.

  • James Hudson
    James Hudson Member Posts: 337 ✭✭✭

    Yes,

    Independent multiple scrollable (and linked if required) split screen. I think Laridian does this best - looks good and is readable with 3 splits.

     

    James

  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,821 ✭✭✭

    Does Logos have a wishlist for the iPad app?

    For the past few months, I have been forcing myself to use Logos instead of my hardcopy Bible at a weekly Bible study.  As a result, I have a few suggestions for making the iPad app into a better product.  For example:

     

    • Support tabbed reading panes (Google Chrome implemented this interface extremely well).  I am not talking about splitting the screen.
    • Ability to search on New Testament, not the entire Bible.
    • Ability to scroll text, not simply turn a page.  If this is not possible, at least let users align the page to any starting point.
    • Allow me to use my BDAG more easily, at least when I am connected via WiFi, to look-up selected words.
    • With IOS 6, support Siri's voice capabilities to permit hands-free navigation.

    Excellent list overall.  Personally, I haven't  thought of need to scroll text, so not 100% clear on how it would provide a better user experience, so I'd probably put this at bottom of list if I was going to prioritize the list.


    • Voice but I would prefer read to me option over voice navigation

    I agree Read to me should also be on list, but like voice navigation, though would probably not see it as a great option in a classroom or church, everyone talking to their iPad could get a little distracting, just one person in church would be distracting for the congregation, but would find it useful in other situations.

     

     

     

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Andrew- I also don't put scrolling high on my list, but I can explain it a little. One reason is that when you are highlighting, sometimes the text spans two pages. Scrolling would allow you to position the text appropriately. This is the only reason I would want this feature. A "half page turn" would work for me just as well (or better)

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  • Philana Crouch
    Philana Crouch Member Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    Andrew- I also don't put scrolling high on my list, but I can explain it a little. One reason is that when you are highlighting, sometimes the text spans two pages. Scrolling would allow you to position the text appropriately. This is the only reason I would want this feature. A "half page turn" would work for me just as well (or better)

    That's a good point! I would like to have scrolling and page turning as options. 

  • Philana Crouch
    Philana Crouch Member Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    Andrew- I also don't put scrolling high on my list, but I can explain it a little. One reason is that when you are highlighting, sometimes the text spans two pages. Scrolling would allow you to position the text appropriately. This is the only reason I would want this feature. A "half page turn" would work for me just as well (or better)

    That's a good point! I would like to have scrolling and page turning as options. 

  • David Causer
    David Causer Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    Ok, not sure what this would be called, but 

     

    PLEASE

    Make an option, to allow the bible, always start at the same point. Foe example, on an iPad, I would like Romans 1:4 or what ever to always appear at the same place. Many people have a photographically memory, and the only thing I don't like about electronic bibles, is verse keep moving around - where as - in an actual bible, I can remember things like, roman 1:4 is on the right page, 2nd column pretty close to the bottom... And I can remember many verses like that.

    So, I would like some way to, select, for every time I go to a verse or chapter, for all the verses to still be in the same place as last time... So I could begin to photographically memorize, my favorite bible version, in electronic format on my ipad

     

    Hope that makes sense?

     

    Does anyone else memorized were verses are on a page like this too? Sorry for the mis-spellings I can't go back and change what I typed for some reason...

  • Bill Anderson
    Bill Anderson Member Posts: 603 ✭✭

    In addition to scrolling, I'd like to see the highlighting feature use fewer button presses by eliminating the "Done" button.

  • Into Grace
    Into Grace Member Posts: 692 ✭✭

    Please improve the search function. When I conduct a Bible search I often use a competitor's free app which allows a search by individual books.

    Logos needs to set the standard or risk losing market share. I love Logos. Please keep making your products better.  [:)]

     

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  • Simon’s Brother
    Simon’s Brother Member Posts: 6,821 ✭✭✭

    alabama24 said:

    Andrew- I also don't put scrolling high on my list, but I can explain it a little. One reason is that when you are highlighting, sometimes the text spans two pages. Scrolling would allow you to position the text appropriately. This is the only reason I would want this feature. A "half page turn" would work for me just as well (or better)

    Thanks Alabama, I agree in those instances it would be handy, but still doesn't make it to the top of the list for me, but have no objection if it was in the next release.

  • James Macleod
    James Macleod Member Posts: 142 ✭✭

    Searching is painful. I use a competitor’s product to search as well.

    Aligning the verse to the top of the page is a must.

    I would add the following requests.

    1)     Allow me to have saved workspaces like on the desktop. I have different ways of studying. If I am doing bible reading I will have the English on the top and the Greek on the bottom. If I am preparing a message I have the English on the top and a commentary on the bottom. If I'm reading Greek I will have the Greek on the top and BDAG on the bottom. There are more setups I like and it is a pain to have to open the appropriate books every time I want to switch my form of study. I should be able to set these up and quickly retrieve them.

    2)     Treat the commentaries as collections so I can move to a different book of the bible and the appropriate book of the commentary will open up.

     

  • Mathew Voth
    Mathew Voth Member Posts: 287 ✭✭

    I would love it if we could add the following:

    -Something that visually shows when you have completed a book (perhaps a small check mark on the top right of the book image)

    -Something that prevents the following scenario: I like reading commentaries cover to cover, however my page in the book often gets lost because I will link it to the Bible, and then the page changes. It would be great if you could set a book to "read mode" versus "study mode" or something.

    -The ability to eliminate books manually from your history on Ipad (sometimes I accidently open a book)

    -The ability to set up a list of books to read. This way when you come across a book in your library that you are interested in you could save it to read in the future.

    -It would be nice if the Home page on Ipad had a section for "Currently Reading." This is lots of room after the Devotionals section to accomadate this.  I am often reading a number of books at the same time, and it would be helpful to keep track of what I am reading (it could also include percentage read).

     

    That's all I've got for now! Thoughts?!

  • Daniel R Bartholomew
    Daniel R Bartholomew Member Posts: 80 ✭✭

    Great list!

    I think a far more robust way to search is critical--limit it to books of the Bible or a range of books, for example.

    Also, I would love to have highlights (not just notes) be linked across versions.

  • Tim
    Tim Member Posts: 256 ✭✭

    Ryan B. said:

    Prayer lists which sync to the desktop is the only thing keeping me from always using my iPad for my quiet time.

    I would like to second this. It would be a definite help for me.

  • Corey Spiegel
    Corey Spiegel Member Posts: 6 ✭✭

    Overall, the iPad is fast replacing the laptop as the daily device most users go to.  With the exception of hard core word processing and those type tasks (which is mostly confined to work use), I can do nearly all of my daily tasks using my iPad.  Logos has done a great job thus far making the iPad app a better overall experience than the very limited capabilities of the iPhone but could go even further.  I would like to see the ability to edit and create reading plans and a better interface for it (calendar views, etc).  The Home Screen could look a lot better too on the iPad.  Finally and one of the biggest, some of the books do not show on my iPad.  I suppose it is a limitation of the publisher.  Again, back to the laptop replacement comment, the iPad is no longer a mere "mobile" device like the iPhone.

  • Corey Spiegel
    Corey Spiegel Member Posts: 6 ✭✭

    I would love it if we could add the following:

    -Something that visually shows when you have completed a book (perhaps a small check mark on the top right of the book image)

    -Something that prevents the following scenario: I like reading commentaries cover to cover, however my page in the book often gets lost because I will link it to the Bible, and then the page changes. It would be great if you could set a book to "read mode" versus "study mode" or something.

    -The ability to eliminate books manually from your history on Ipad (sometimes I accidently open a book)

    -The ability to set up a list of books to read. This way when you come across a book in your library that you are interested in you could save it to read in the future.

    -It would be nice if the Home page on Ipad had a section for "Currently Reading." This is lots of room after the Devotionals section to accomadate this.  I am often reading a number of books at the same time, and it would be helpful to keep track of what I am reading (it could also include percentage read).

     

    That's all I've got for now! Thoughts?!

    Good ideas as well.  Maybe something like folders or categories (Currently Reading, Previously Read, etc).  Don't know, thinking while typing...

     

  • Jacob Hantla
    Jacob Hantla MVP Posts: 3,874

    Does anyone else memorized were verses are on a page like this too? Sorry for the mis-spellings I can't go back and change what I typed for some reason...

    That was how I did it when I carried an ink-and-paper Bible, but then I found I was paralyzed when I didn't have that Bible with me. That has actually been a benefit of not using a dead-tree Bible for a couple years now, I know my verses based on reference and context and not location on the page (I have to admit special highlights do help too).

    Jacob Hantla
    Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
    gbcaz.org

  • Gary Butner, Th.D.
    Gary Butner, Th.D. Member Posts: 483 ✭✭

    I would like everything on your list and my order or priority would be

     

    • Search restricted to subset of bible (nt, out, single book etc)
    • Easier lexicon lookup
    • Tabbed 
    • Option for scrolling
    • Voice but I would prefer read to me option over voice navigation

    All excellent idea

     

  • Steve Marquez
    Steve Marquez Member Posts: 27 ✭✭

    I like the suggestions here. Would also like to add:

    • A way to turn off verse numbers and heads and subheads.
       It would be great if there was a way to have just the bible text and nothing else.

    • Highlighting the way iBooks does it is extremely efficient and easy to use.
       It would be great to implement something like that and keep notes and highlights
       completely separate.

    • The same homescreen that we have in Logos 4 would be great on the iPad.
       The iPad lends itself to this kind of design better than the computer screen.

    Perhaps the design of the iPhone app and the iPad app should be different. The real estate is completely different. The things that are possible on the iPad are not that conducive to the iPhone.

    Thanks! I love the app so far. The team at Logos is doing a great job!

  • Kevin Kim
    Kevin Kim Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    Dear Logos,

    Is there way to edit the favorites? For example, I sometime categorize the bible verse by the topic that I am trying to remmber or trying to concentrate on. It seems like I can make one big list of bible verse. But it wouldn't let me categorize them, it would be so convient if I can pull it out when ever something pops up in my mind. 

     

    Thank you and new version of LOGOS Ipad ROCKS :D

  • Corey Spiegel
    Corey Spiegel Member Posts: 6 ✭✭

    I second Kevin's assessment of the new iPad version.  Great work!!

    With the next batch of ideas, I still would like to be able to see a currently reading list and have the option of bookmarks within a particular book.

    When I open the app, it either shows every book in my library which is numerous or whatever I searched for last.  It would be great to have a current reading list of books that are tagged as being actively read.  And finally with the bookmarks, the issue is that when I choose a reading plan entry, it opens at the first page of the reading day I choose.  For example, if the reading plan says pages 100-125, it will open to page 100 when I click on the reading entry.  But say something comes up and I stop reading.  If I come back to it later at page 115 and read to 125, the option to mark the day complete is gone.  Now of course the new ability to mark entries complete from the reading plan view will solve much of this, but it still would be helpful to have a bookmark option (much like Kindle does).  

    But I don't want to make it seem like I am complaining... version 3.0.0 just checked off most of my past requests for enhancements.  Truly a great update.

  • Jeffery B. Taylor
    Jeffery B. Taylor Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    Just a thought.

    David I really like your ideas, and thought I'd post a few of my own.  I often like to use my ipod to look up things at church where I may not have my laptop or tablet with me.   I think a few of these would make the Ipod app stronger.

    1. Voice recording within notes (this one is kinda iffy, but it does help in a pinch for idea transfer in a hurry.
    2. Being able to read your entire note file on the Ipod.  I've never been able to read mine only add to it.
    3. being able to split screen your notes with your bible would be nice.  I see a split screen in the faithlife app which is very useful for  running refferences.  If that could be done for notes it would be awesome.  

    Thanks 

     

    Does Logos have a wishlist for the iPad app?

    For the past few months, I have been forcing myself to use Logos instead of my hardcopy Bible at a weekly Bible study.  As a result, I have a few suggestions for making the iPad app into a better product.  For example:

     

    • Support tabbed reading panes (Google Chrome implemented this interface extremely well).  I am not talking about splitting the screen.
    • Ability to search on New Testament, not the entire Bible.
    • Ability to scroll text, not simply turn a page.  If this is not possible, at least let users align the page to any starting point.
    • Allow me to use my BDAG more easily, at least when I am connected via WiFi, to look-up selected words.
    • With IOS 6, support Siri's voice capabilities to permit hands-free navigation.



     

     

  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,523

    Being able to read your entire note file on the Ipod.  I've never been able to read mine only add to it.
    being able to split screen your notes with your bible would be nice.  I see a split screen in the faithlife app which is very useful for  running refferences.  If that could be done for notes it would be awesome.  

    Jeffery - First, welcome to the forums!

    It's kind of funny that you posted this today. The app was updated yesterday and both of these features were added. I don't know the specs on your iPod… If it is new enough, these features should be available. Otherwise, you will have to wait until you update your hardware.

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  • GregW
    GregW Member Posts: 848 ✭✭

    Hi Jeffery and welcome to the forums.  On release 3 you can now view your entire notes file in the iPod (at least you can on the iPhone so I assume you can on the iPod). From the home screen click on the magnifying glass, swipe across to the fourth pane (documents) and you can view any notes file by tapping on it. 


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  • Jeffery B. Taylor
    Jeffery B. Taylor Member Posts: 3 ✭✭

    Replying both to Greg and Alabama, thanks for the heads up.  I hadn't found the note thing yet.  thanks again guys.

  • Jerry M
    Jerry M Member Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭

    In the Bible Word Study I can tap on various sections of the translation ring to see the different words and locations in the Bible that the lemma is translated into.  However as far as I know you can't perform a search to see them all at once, you can only do manuscript form searches. I would like a link within the Bible Word Study to perform a lemma search of all the inflected forms of the Greek or Hebrew in the default English Translation like we can do on the desktop. (BTW if someone knows how to do this or a feasible work around I would like to know it.)

    "For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"      Wiki Table of Contents

  • Philana Crouch
    Philana Crouch Member Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭

    Jerry M said:

    In the Bible Word Study I can tap on various sections of the translation ring to see the different words and locations in the Bible that the lemma is translated into.  However as far as I know you can't perform a search to see them all at once, you can only do manuscript form searches. I would like a link within the Bible Word Study to perform a lemma search of all the inflected forms of the Greek or Hebrew in the default English Translation like we can do on the desktop. (BTW if someone knows how to do this or a feasible work around I would like to know it.)

    I would love to see textual searches on the iPad. Not just the Bible, but the other ones (LXX, Philo, ect,).

  • Jerry M
    Jerry M Member Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭

    I would like to be able to load the library on the screen like we can the guides.  I would like to have the library open and be able to scroll in it with another resource open beside it on a split screen and be able to move the focus back and forth, open resources into the second pane,etc.

    "For the kingdom of God does not consist in words but in power"      Wiki Table of Contents

  • Philana Crouch
    Philana Crouch Member Posts: 2,151 ✭✭✭

    Jerry M said:

    I would like to be able to load the library on the screen like we can the guides.  I would like to have the library open and be able to scroll in it with another resource open beside it on a split screen and be able to move the focus back and forth, open resources into the second pane,etc.

    That would be very helpful! Maybe a send to pane feature so it could be optional.

  • Alan Lovelace
    Alan Lovelace Member Posts: 4 ✭✭

    I would like to add that a prayer list on my iphone/ipad that syncs with my computer would be awesome.  I use that list daily and not having this feature is the only reason I travel with my laptop.  It would also help me to be able to pray more effectively throughout the day on items I am committed to praying for.  Yes, as the Spirit leads daily I do stop and pray for those things brought to mind.  An example might be that every Monday I pray for certain neighbors to come to Christ.

  • Jacob Hantla
    Jacob Hantla MVP Posts: 3,874

    I would like to add that a prayer list on my iphone/ipad that syncs with my computer would be awesome.  I use that list daily and not having this feature is the only reason I travel with my laptop.  It would also help me to be able to pray more effectively throughout the day on items I am committed to praying for.  Yes, as the Spirit leads daily I do stop and pray for those things brought to mind.  An example might be that every Monday I pray for certain neighbors to come to Christ.

    [Y]

    Jacob Hantla
    Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
    gbcaz.org

  • Steve Walker
    Steve Walker Member Posts: 1 ✭✭

    I agree with the need to sync my desktop prayer list with my iPad.  Please!  It can't be that difficult, and it would be very much appreciated by many.[:D]

  • Corey Spiegel
    Corey Spiegel Member Posts: 7 ✭✭

    The iPad app just keeps getting better.  The more I use it, the more I love it but I also can see a few areas that need some improvement. 

    1. Reading Plans are difficult to follow the way I use them.  I can't be the only one who does this, but I have multiple documents that I have setup in the future to force me to read in a structured approach.  But the Daily Reading section is not ordered in any way and depending on the title length, the start date is truncated. See below:

    image

    Notice the document starting on December 5 is below the December 19 document.  The third item in the list could be starting today, I just don't know.  If these were ordered by date showing overdue first, then readings starting today, then future readings, it would really be helpful.  A green flag for Today like the red Overdue flag may be helpful too.

    2. Sometimes, I read partway into a daily reading and don't make the whole way (hence the overdue).  I then have to do a search of my library for the document and access it that way so my place is not lost.  Using the Daily Readings link will take me back to the beginning of the daily reading, not where I left off.  Recommend a prompt that recognizes if my last read position is greater than where the link will take me.  Kindle does this with the Sync to last page read option.  Seeing that the software is already holding my last known position in memory, it should be able to recognize the difference.

    3. Being able to get my personal books on my iPad is still a priority for me.  I know it's coming eventually, but wanted to keep it fresh.  Being able to import third party ebooks would be great too.  I would love to be able to use the Logos app for all my reading needs and not have to wonder if I have the book on Kindle, some other eReader or Logos.

  • Graham Criddle
    Graham Criddle MVP Posts: 33,097

    H Corey - and welcome to the forums.

    Just to say I agree with all the points you make!

    Thank you for articulating them so clearly.

    Graham

  • Doug Olson
    Doug Olson Member Posts: 8 ✭✭
    Great list everyone. I agree and look forward to these as well.
  • Dwight Wood
    Dwight Wood Member Posts: 7 ✭✭

    I would second Ryan's suggestion.  The most important time of my day is the first hour and a half in the morning quiet.  To have access to the prayer lists from my desktop on the iPad would be most beneficial!

  • Michael Willemse
    Michael Willemse Member Posts: 27 ✭✭

    Ditto. I really enjoy using Logos on both iPad and iPhone and find it really handy to keep up with my devotional reading wherever I am. The one thing I have been hanging out for (and which I understood would not be far behind reading plans) is syncing my prayer list to my iDevices. Please, please Logos - can this be added soon?

    May the Lord bless you all as you remember the birth of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

    Michael