Kindle Fire HD
I guess I'll be the first one to bring this up.
I just received the Kindle Fire HD today. When I went to download Logos Bible app it said it wasn't compatible. Is this _really_ the case? Could I download the beta version directly and use that? I've already set it to allow Unknown sources...but not sure if it will allow me to download the beta version or not.
Is anyone at Logos aware of why Amazon is showing that it is not compatible?
Peace!
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I have an original Kindle Fire and the Logos app on Amazon works with it. I don't know what changes were made on the Fire HD that would cause Logos not to work.
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Ronald Quick said:
I have an original Kindle Fire and the Logos app on Amazon works with it. I don't know what changes were made on the Fire HD that would cause Logos not to work.
Puh - I'm glad I choose the non-HD version on Amazon's PrePub then (they bring the Fire and the HD both for the first time to Germany on October 25th - and not at all to Austria, I hear). Well actually it was the dollars rather... I expect Logos to be compatible soon.
Have joy in the Lord!
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I am surprised to hear the app is not working for you on the Kindle Fire HD. Do the Logos Bible, Biblia and/or Faithlife Study Bible apps appear for you in the Amazon Market from your Kindle Fire HD?
Thanks for reporting this.
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Gabe Martin said:
I am surprised to hear the app is not working for you on the Kindle Fire HD. Do the Logos Bible, Biblia and/or Faithlife Study Bible apps appear for you in the Amazon Market from your Kindle Fire HD?
No, they don't show up in the Amazon store at all. I went to the website on my laptop, did a search for Logos, and it had an "X" next to my Kindle Fire HD.
I did go to a website, 1mobile.com, and sideloaded the Logos and Vyrso apps. I also noticed that Google Books doesn't work. Seems like Amazon is keeping everything "in house." Logos seems to work fine and so did Vyrso. Google Books...not so much.
One of the reasons I went with Fire HD is because I was going to use it mostly to read and do Amazon stuff....plus it had the HDMI out which, for me, was what caused me to purchase it over the Nexus. (FYI)
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David Mullens said:
I did go to a website, 1mobile.com, and sideloaded the Logos and Vyrso apps. I also noticed that Google Books doesn't work. Seems like Amazon is keeping everything "in house." Logos seems to work fine and so did Vyrso. Google Books...not so much.
See the FAQ post regarding install locations. If you don't have access to the app via Google Play or Amazon Appstore I'd recommend downloading and installing the APK via our download page.
David Mullens said:One of the reasons I went with Fire HD is because I was going to use it mostly to read and do Amazon stuff....plus it had the HDMI out which, for me, was what caused me to purchase it over the Nexus. (FYI)
I completely understand the rationale. If you own a lot of Amazon content there's a very compelling argument to go with an Amazon branded device. I haven't checked out their new Kindle Fire HD models yet but we'll do our best to make sure Logos users can install the apps without needing to side-load them. Unfortunately much of this is outside our control. Amazon rarely provides any details why certain apps that they approve in their Appstore are not allowed on the Kindle Fire and typically just responds with a "check back later and see if it's available" sort of message. For the Kindle Fire they allow the Logos Bible, Biblia, and FSB apps, but never made Vyrso available. I'm going to be extremely disappointed if they don't allow any of our apps to be installed on the new Kindle Fire HD without side-loading.
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After checking out Amazon's updated Kindle Fire Development guide it does appear they added some additional qualifiers to be eligible as an "HD App". There's still hope that with some minor tweaks we can get the app available on the new Kindle Fire HD series of devices without needing to sideload and we'll do what we can to make that happen.
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Gabe, I apreciate your attention to this. We were just about to pull the trigger on purchasing several Kindle Fire HDs for our group. Although I recognize Logos' reluctance to predict schedules, please keep us in the loop on this. Thanks.
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Thanks!
I've been using Logos on the Fire HD and it seems to work fine. One of the other issues I've noticed with Amazon's app store is that some of the apps I did download were older versions. If I want the newer versions, I have to sideload them. Then I'm not sure what happens when those apps get upgraded.
I assumed that Amazon wasn't allowing Logos because you both publish digital books. It is kind of in a different space, but some of the books are the same. Seems like Amazon doesn't want much competition on their Fire HD devices.
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David Mullens said:
I assumed that Amazon wasn't allowing Logos because you both publish digital books. It is kind of in a different space, but some of the books are the same. Seems like Amazon doesn't want much competition on their Fire HD devices.
I had been looking forward to ordering the 8.9" Fire that is to come out in November but will probably look elsewhere for a tablet. I didn't realize that the Vyrso app had not been approved. Part of the great deal on Amazon Fire tablets is offset by Amazon's restrictiveness. I was wanting a tablet larger than a 7" one and did not feel the price of an iPad is justified for my use, hence the attractiveness of the 8.9" Fire.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Bill Moore said:
I had been looking forward to ordering the 8.9" Fire that is to come out in November but will probably look elsewhere for a tablet. I didn't realize that the Vyrso app had not been approved. Part of the great deal on Amazon Fire tablets is offset by Amazon's restrictiveness. I was wanting a tablet larger than a 7" one and did not feel the price of an iPad is justified for my use, hence the attractiveness of the 8.9" Fire.
I feel it is a fair trade off. As restrictive as it is, it allows the sideloading of apps (or installation from sources other than Amazon, although I do not believe Google Play Store will work). I was able to install Vyrso, Logos, and FLB without any trouble. However, if they approve Logos, then all the Vyrso books are available and the reading experience is just about the same.
I've only had it for a few days, but I like it so far. I have an Android phone and I would love the pure Android experience, but understand why Amazon is doing what they are doing.
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I have tried checking the "installations of applications" as suggested by several, but to no effect with the Logos app. It seems odd that Kindle would block Logos when it allows the installation of Olive Tree.
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After you do the "installations of applications" then you can go do http://downloads.logos.com/Android/Logos/beta/index.html to get the beta, or http://www.1mobile.com/ (or some other app place), download it, then install it. I ended up installing the 1mobile appstore to make things a bit easier.
I agree, it would be wonderful to have it in the Amazon app store.
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David Melchior said:
I have tried checking the "installations of applications" as suggested by several, but to no effect with the Logos app. It seems odd that Kindle would block Logos when it allows the installation of Olive Tree.
Apples and oranges…. Olivetree has a good selection of books but a minor amount compared to Logos, the number of books in Logos Library might be seen as more a threat. Also since Logos is deigned primarily for online reading, maybe that may play some issue. As well as the fact Logos makes an ereader APP VYRSO, which may contravene an amazon shop policy. THESE are all just wild speculation on my part. Hopefully for all owners of fire HD Logos will get things worked out shortly.
-Dan
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Dan Francis said:
THESE are all just wild speculation on my part.
Since there is nothing different in the kind of business models run by Amazon as well as by Logos between the introduction of Logos to the Kindle Fire (non-HD) and now, I'm much more inclined to believe the information we received above that Amazon put up some additional specs to ensure HD-compatibility of software available through their store and are simply not finished with re-evaluating the various Logos apps.
Looking forward to receiving my non-HD Fire in five weeks from now
Mick
Have joy in the Lord!
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Is anyone at Logos notifying Amazon that there are new versions available. The Amazon AppStore still has 2.0.11 which is the same version that Google Play has. I'm trying to keep my Kindle Fire clean and not side-load too much. I keep getting notifications that there is a newer version available (on my Kindle Fire) but when I download and try to install it, it fails. Is 2.0.11 the latest version?
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Interestingly, the release dates on Amazon Appstore (11/2/11) and Google Play (8/27/12) vary wildly for the same numbered version. I'm confused.
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tried again tonight... still no luck
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just tried again ... no luck
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I received my yesterday day also. I dont know how she did it, but my wife was able to get the logos beta running on my Fire HD. I was ready to send the fire back to amazon.
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Bill, what exactly arebyou trying to do that isnt working? are you trying to sideload logos by downloading it from the link in the forums?
if you ate trying to get it from the amazon store, you might be waiting for a while
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i tried to dl from the logos site i clicked on the kindle fire (i have the new hd) and it takes me to the amazon site where the logos for kindle is x'd out and cannot be downloaded.
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just did a dl of the stable version from logos. Launch icon is definitely pretty fuzzy but we'll see how it runs
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Amazon has now approved the 2.1.2 versions of the Bible, Vyrso, and FSB apps. It would be helpful if someone with a Kindle Fire HD device could confirm that the apps are now available without needing to side load them.
One of the benefits of installing the apps from the Amazon Appstore is a higher resolution launch icon.
Still waiting on Biblia approval but that should be coming soon.
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Success!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!
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Bill Mattox said:
Success!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!
Good to hear! Do all the apps appear as available on your Kindle FIre HD (BIble, Faithlife Study Bible and Vyrso)?
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only running Bible ... sorry
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fsb works. cant find vyrso when i enter it logos app comes up
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thanks for getting the programs on fire hd. I was able to get Logos on earlier this evening. FLB was available a couple of days or so.
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Thanks Gabe!
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October 2, setting up my children's HD. Still no Vyrso. Curious abut something else, I signed in, but don't see my library, just a handful of arcane books and a couple bibles.
I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Dan DeVilder said:
October 2, setting up my children's HD. Still no Vyrso.
The latest version of Vyrso is available in the Amazon Appstore for non Kindle Fire devices. Amazon has not and likely never will approve the Vyrso app for the Kindle Fire or Kindle Fire HD devices. Your options on Kindle Fire devices are to install the Bible, Biblia, or Faithlife Study Bible apps via the Amazon Market or download the Vyrso app via our website and sideload it.
You can sideload Vyrso on the Kindle Fire and Kindle Fire HD devices with the two downsides being that you'll get a fairly pixelated Vyrso icon on your home screen and will need to manually download updates when prompted that they are available. To download the latest Vyrso app go to http://downloads.logos.com/Android/Vyrso/stable/index.html and click the link for Android 2.2+ devices. Once you download the apk you'll need to make sure that you have the option to install apps from 3rd party sources enabled in order to install it.
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I love Logos and the csr's are responsive...but noone seems willing to weigh in on the new tablets yet.
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I want to buy one possibly but your post has scared me some. i need access to all my books and I keep reading about font issues on the Nexus? What have you found? Please email me at Joshua dot lieder at amwins dot com brother if you have time...thanks.
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Others have said that spambots scan these forums and you WILL be over run by unwanted emails unless you change your email address to read something like Joshua dot lieder at amwins dot com.
Making Disciples! Logos Ecosystem = LogosMax on Microsoft Surface Pro 7 (Win11), Android app on tablet, FSB on iPhone & iPad mini, Proclaim (Proclaim Remote on Fire Tablet).
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Gabe Martin said:Dan DeVilder said:
October 2, setting up my children's HD. Still no Vyrso.
The latest version of Vyrso is available in the Amazon Appstore for non Kindle Fire devices. Amazon has not and likely never will approve the Vyrso app for the Kindle Fire or Kindle Fire HD devices. Your options on Kindle Fire devices are to install the Bible, Biblia, or Faithlife Study Bible apps via the Amazon Market or download the Vyrso app via our website and sideload it.
You can sideload Vyrso on the Kindle Fire and Kindle Fire HD devices with the two downsides being that you'll get a fairly pixelated Vyrso icon on your home screen and will need to manually download updates when prompted that they are available. To download the latest Vyrso app go to http://downloads.logos.com/Android/Vyrso/stable/index.html and click the link for Android 2.2+ devices. Once you download the apk you'll need to make sure that you have the option to install apps from 3rd party sources enabled in order to install it.
Thanks, Gabe, for the info about Vyrso. Frankly, this is a deal-breaker for me. I was seriously considering a Fire HD 8.9", but having a pixelated Vyrso app isn't going to work. I realize this is Amazon's decision and not that of Logos.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Given the length and the content found in this string...Kindle Fire would have to go in the fire if I bought one.
I dont want to be a programmer to get Logos working and readable on my new expensive toy...I mean gadget....I mean reader.
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Gabe Martin said:Dan DeVilder said:
October 2, setting up my children's HD. Still no Vyrso.
The latest version of Vyrso is available in the Amazon Appstore for non Kindle Fire devices. Amazon has not and likely never will approve the Vyrso app for the Kindle Fire or Kindle Fire HD devices. Your options on Kindle Fire devices are to install the Bible, Biblia, or Faithlife Study Bible apps via the Amazon Market or download the Vyrso app via our website and sideload it.
You can sideload Vyrso on the Kindle Fire and Kindle Fire HD devices with the two downsides being that you'll get a fairly pixelated Vyrso icon on your home screen and will need to manually download updates when prompted that they are available. To download the latest Vyrso app go to http://downloads.logos.com/Android/Vyrso/stable/index.html and click the link for Android 2.2+ devices. Once you download the apk you'll need to make sure that you have the option to install apps from 3rd party sources enabled in order to install it.
THank you, Gabe. Guess I will just have to teach my kids Logos navigation.
Thanks for the update. Sorry Vyrso won't be naturally included.I like Apples. Especially Honeycrisp.
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Of course it is your decision, but it is only the Vyros icon is pixulated, and to be honest, I dont find it that big of a deal at all. I have found I like the device much.more than I thought. Tomorrow Im leading a retreat and taking my Fire HD and using the HDMI output to display a Powerpoint presetation on a TV that is there.
If I need to I can even display Logos on the screen. HDMI makes this device a very useful tool in my opinion.
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That's true, David, about Vyrso, but it's just so indicative of this seemingly relentless pursuit of profit to the extreme that anything that appears to be a competitor is restricted from a device. It's really frustrating.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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Bill Moore said:
Thanks, Gabe, for the info about Vyrso. Frankly, this is a deal-breaker for me. I was seriously considering a Fire HD 8.9", but having a pixelated Vyrso app isn't going to work. I realize this is Amazon's decision and not that of Logos.
If I read the comment correctly, he didn't say a "pixelated Vyrso app". He said a pixelated Vyrso icon on the home screen. To me that just sounded like the start icon would be ugly. It didn't say anything negative about the appearance of the app when it's running.
Donnie
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Donnie Hale said:Bill Moore said:
Thanks, Gabe, for the info about Vyrso. Frankly, this is a deal-breaker for me. I was seriously considering a Fire HD 8.9", but having a pixelated Vyrso app isn't going to work. I realize this is Amazon's decision and not that of Logos.
If I read the comment correctly, he didn't say a "pixelated Vyrso app". He said a pixelated Vyrso icon on the home screen. To me that just sounded like the start icon would be ugly. It didn't say anything negative about the appearance of the app when it's running.
Donnie
Good catch, Donnie, and thanks. I think you're right. That does help some. I have not canceled my Fire HD 8.9" 32GB pre-order and may yet end up getting it. And perhaps Logos can get the Vyrso icon to look better on the Fire HD screen, but as long as the book fonts look good, that's what matters.
Pastor, Cornerstone Baptist Church, Clinton, SC
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I am considering getting a Kindle Fire HD and am wondering about an update to this thread.
Does Logos work on KFHD?
I can download some of my books onto the Fire and read them offline?
Does Logos work offline or do I need to be connected?
Can you give me some idea of how much storage is contained within, say, 16G?
Thanks for any input.
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As far as I can tell Logos works fine on KFHD. 16G is plenty of room. I have a few commentaries, bibles, etc. download so I can use them when they are offline. Hope this helps!
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John, I purchased kindle fire hd last week only because it works with Logos. I have been very pleased thus far. The only problem I've experienced is that none of my reading plans properly sinc on kindle.
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I have a Kindle Fire HD and the Logos app does work on it.
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I just recieved a kindle fire in the mail. I've had it about 4 hours now and the app works great, except my notes and highlights haven't appeared yet. Does any one know about this? Do they just take a while to appear or do highlights and notes not work on the fire? I see there is an option for notes in the options menu. I have it turned on. Has anyone had a similar experience?
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As at 20 Dec 2012 Amazon allows the Logos Bible Software app only into the US, the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and Spain. Those Logos users who want the Kindle Fire HD (8.9" 16GB WiFi) as a mobile platform must be aware of this because as the device is from Amazon, access to the Google Play Store is also denied. The app is only available from these two sources. Therefore only those residents of the listed countries have easy access to the Logos app (and the other apps on the Amazon store). At first sight this is a tremendous disincentive to purchase the Fire HD which in my view is one of the best ereaders now available (in terms of size, weight, price and the excellent readability). The good news is that if you are software-savvy or have a friend who is, this can be circumvented by making the Amazon store believe that you are purchasing in the US. All the other attributes of the tablet are retained - use as normal.
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You can also get Logos Bible App from 1mobile.com. So if you set your Kindle to allow installation from other sources, you should be able to get this.
Also, I believe, you could get the beta version straight from Logos (there's a forum with the link).
Peace! David.
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David Mullens said:
You can also get Logos Bible App from 1mobile.com.
Hey David is it possible to get the google play books app on the kindle fire in this way? I tried to download it from this site but it just tells me that the download failed.
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Ok, I just was able to download the app to my kindle fire (I was able to within the mobile 1 app), but when I try to open it it just gives me a blank screen with the google play book logo on the upper right corner. Has anyone successfully been able to put the google play books app on their kindle fire?
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